You are arguing alone, I don't care who wants what and didn't ask.
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You brought up the point of Ratcliffe's influence as though people were ignorant of it. I'm trying to put it to you that (many) are not.
I could imagine that sketch but with one of the Glazers in his place.
"It's still nil-nil, Chris!"
"You're at the game?"
"...Yes..."
"The game at Old Trafford?"
"...Indeed..."
"But United have just scored."
"...oh yes, Chris. Wow! The crowd are making the stadium around me shake. It's really quite something."
"Who scored the goal, Avram?"
"....I think the connection is a li-"
"Avram! Who scored the goal for United?"
".... Cristiano Ronaldo...?"
"You're not at the game are you, Avram? You're IN FLORIDA washing your ponytail aren't you?"
".....sorry, Chris."
oh god. Don't make me remember the 9/11 skit.
back in a minute, I'm off to YouTube to watch that.Well, to listen to it but still amazing.
I was asked about it, I didn't brought it up.
I'm looking at the impact going forward under a potential SJR ownership without the existing debt being cleared immediately. My argument is that the yearly debt repayments aren't a biggie relative to the sort of spend that's required turned over at an elite football team.
For illustration of my point, the Sancho package will cost the club £163m over 5 years and he has had minimal impact after 2 of those years. So by equivalence he'll cost the club more than half a decade of existing debt repayments.
If Mason Greenwood ends up being released, that's probably a £150m asset getting wiped from the balance sheet (given current transfer prices, his age and talent levels). That was potentially another half decade of existing debt repayments!
To reiterate my point - £30m a year is chicken feed relative to the reality of volatile financial movements that happen regularly at elite football clubs.
Yup, it's literally Qatar now or we become Spuds in the coming years.
If Qatar go and slap down the 4bn for Spurs, some of the United fans on here will have to tie themselves in knots to explain how we're ever winning a title again short of a blanket ban on state clubs.
Alright, point taken. My original comment still stands, though. This is a lesser of two evils situation, and whilst "just a businessman" is indeed perhaps a rather naive statement to make about a petrochemicals billionaire, I believe @Chesterlestreet was correct to ask the question of whether Ratcliffe and Jassim are really comparable in the realm of state and political influence.
Alright, I don't know how popular this sentiment will be, but I for one would rather we never won a Premier League in the next ten years than become City's regen.
If they could then why go to the trouble of hiding it behind Jassim.
Could have done with that in January
Berbaclass posting speculation from a random United fan in London.
And I answered his question, I even gave an answer that both of you will agree with. But let me ask you this who has more political influence in the UK, Ineos or Hamad Al Thani?
Very little room under FFP due to signings like Sancho unfortunately.
And every other opinion with sub numbers turned out to be wrong.
There’s a reason it says
Do not post dodgy tweet sources
In the title and it’s not his opinion, he literally says one of their sources in a post.
It’s bullshit
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the people we spoke to believe he will be there.
Might be a hard sell given they enthusiasticly signed up to FFP in the first place (possibly because they were confident they could get around it without being caught out)
And Nasser's name has been spelled wrongly twice out of two attempts.
How about 20, 30 or even 50? Shall we become mid-table to make sure no one can say anything? What happens when Green peace start on Ratcliffe?
The point I picked up on in your post a few pages ago was that you said the Glazers spend up to the limit within the FFP rules which is clearly not the case.
to make it simpler if we have £100m to spend in a window to be within
FFP and they take a £10m dividend and pay £30m in debt repayments then we have £60m in reality. Even if they didn’t take a dividend in recent times and only pay down the interest that still takes us down to £70m.
if City have the same £100m, they have a full £100m to spend in the transfer market.
if you think that’s chicken feed or doesn’t make a difference then I don’t know what else to say.
And? English is obviously not the guys first language. Doesn’t make his point irrelevant because of a typo
Another nail in the ITK coffin
Sounds like the best route to go.
How is that an ITK tweet.
INEOS, absolutely. My counter to that would be that Hamad Al Thani's political influence over Qatar is more considerable than INEOS' over any single state, probably by a considerable margin.
Come on, two different typos? This isn't an ITK.And? English is obviously not the guys first language. Doesn’t make his point irrelevant because of a typo
So you are 100% agreeing with what I wrote in my initial post? What are you countering?
No it’s not. It’s just the guys take on the potential QIA reshuffle. No one is pretending to be ITK don’t know where you’re getting that impression.
I am.
Cool
I'm seriously considering just not supporting the club if it becomes a sportswashing venture, so yeah sure, I'll still take your made up scenario.
Is this how you engage in dialog with others who disagree with you, you bully them, steal their belongings, few digs ? You sound like an autocratic country leader.. The irony.
The debt repayments of ~£30m need to be balanced against the yearly revenues which are ~£650m. It isn't that much when you look at it like that. It's literally like the cost of a decent fallback. It can be worked around pretty easily under SJR and wiping it isn't the holy grail it's made out to be.
That’s what I took from it too
Which means that it's a dodgy tweet.It’s not an ITK account
Nor does he claim to be.
Okay whatever man. I’m not arguing over stupid things.
People on here are ridiculously defensive
I was countering this point in particular:
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My point was that I don't think people are less ignorant of it and more just considering the situation through the "lesser of two evils" lens.
Regardless, if I misinterpreted your post I extend my apologies. I think it was largely correct.
OK. So then I have 2 questions for you if this isn’t that much.
1. why are the vast majority of fans opposed to the Glazer ownership?
2.Why have we fallen so far behind other clubs and Man City in particular ?
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