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devilish

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No. Nobody would spend billions to buy in and fund all the capital investment just for the Glazers to sit on their sweaty fat ginger arses taking their investments back out of the club and back into their own pockets. And no sensible billionaire businessperson would work with the Glazers knowing that they are terrible football club owners who've run the club into the ground for their own greed. Thanks.
That's how I see it as well. Who on earth would bail this rats out knowing that they can't manage the club? Its like throwing money in the dumpster. There again we've been so unlucky with these owners and we know that they'd rather stay then leave
 

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Could the QSI news being leaked by a reputable source be the first of many PR strategies of a takeover for us?

Having heard what the Bloomberg report said, it mentioned Spurs denied any meeting with QSI. Lfc didn't even get back to them. Both United and QSI declined to comment.

Am I adding up 2+2 and equalling 10? Or is 2 + 2 actually equalling 4? :keano:
 

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What if this is a ploy by Glazers to not spend in January? Once the window is closed they could announce that they are not selling. Just a conspiracy theory :D
 

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It’s really depressing the state of the Prem these days.

Two great english institutions (and Spurs) are just getting whored out to the highest bidder. These potential owners don’t even care about our club that’s the sad part.

All the history we have I don’t even think means anything to these people so it makes it very hard to get behind them.
Football is fecked at this level. Sad really. It's just billionaire playthings.
 

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It’s really depressing the state of the Prem these days.

Two great english institutions (and Spurs) are just getting whored out to the highest bidder. These potential owners don’t even care about our club that’s the sad part.

All the history we have I don’t even think means anything to these people so it makes it very hard to get behind them.
It aligns quite nicely with the state of the country.
 

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Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see the leeches gone but it also kind of sickens me they're about to get so much money from someone. How were they allowed to buy us for just 250mil of their own money I'll never understand.
 

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There are a lot of issues whoring the club out to oil money (most serios concern if it is to to the murderers in Saudi Arabia) but them not caring is definitely not a big concern. Historically we've seen oil money owners actually caring about wins a lot. As opposed to Glazers, they usually understand the game, are passionate about the game and buy the club because they want to win, not just as cash cow source. Also, it is very unlikely anybody else will treat us the way Glazers did, for the simple fact that Glazers never invested their own money, they bought us on loan (and paid interests on that loan from our revenues, so basically got us free). That kind of deal is not allowed in Premier League anymore, as far as I know. Anybody who invests their own money and has an ounce of love for the game won't treat United the way Glazers do. The likelihood of us improving, with any new owner are high. The only question is - if anybody will actually buy hugely overpriced United at 6 billion + or if Glazers will accept more realistic 4-5 billion price.

I am gettin increasingly concerned that Glazers won't sell and they actually prefer to get "minority investment" so they can continue fecking around.
There would be some heavy protesting if the Glazers hang around. To bad we won't be able to make our voice heard before after the fact, because non of the journalist covering this team cares to seek up Ratcliffe, Beckham and co to get a comment. If the Glazers aren't giving Ratcliffe a chance to buy the team, why would he not comment on it? If he is in a process, he will say something like 'we aren't commenting on it now, let us come back later'. Instead we get complete silent because Luckhurst and co are busy bugging ETH with questions about Maguire. #LuckhurstOut. Anyone know anyone at Manchester Evening News? How do we get LuckhurstOut? :)
 

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I am thinking about starting a trust to get #LuckhurstOut. What do you guys think about the following names: The Real Manchester United Supporter Trust? The Provisional Manchester United Supporter Trust? The New Manchester United Supporter Trust?

It would be a not-for-profit organisation and we would be working towards a meaningful fan influence over the journalist covering the team. ;)
 

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It’s really depressing the state of the Prem these days.

Two great english institutions (and Spurs) are just getting whored out to the highest bidder. These potential owners don’t even care about our club that’s the sad part.

All the history we have I don’t even think means anything to these people so it makes it very hard to get behind them.
City being taken over has benefited not only City, but also the local area and economy. As already pointed out by another poster.

If you have pure leeches like the glazers that’s not good. But also if you have pure fans that might not also be good. The best thing might be people who grow to love the club. Remember most of our legend players and managers didn’t join loving the club, exceptions exist due to our academy. So the same can be true for owners, as long as they have the money and intention to succeed.
 

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I am thinking about starting a trust to get #LuckhurstOut. What do you guys think about the following names: The Real Manchester United Supporter Trust? The Provisional Manchester United Supporter Trust? The New Manchester United Supporter Trust?

It would be a not-for-profit organisation and we would be working towards a meaningful fan influence over the journalist covering the team. ;)
It’s not a bad shout, but you could just avoid the MEN and try a better quality publication….. the Athletic has a few decent journos covering United.
 

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I think the partial sale or full sale has already been agreed behind the scenes and they are simply waiting for the end of the financial year for it to be confirmed and official.

Ornstein seemed very confident about it and he's not one to get involved in idle rumours usually. He's a solid well respected Journalist.

The club is definitely changing hands soon. We just have to be patient.
 

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I think the partial sale or full sale has already been agreed behind the scenes and they are simply waiting for the end of the financial year for it to be confirmed and official.

Ornstein seemed very confident about it and he's not one to get involved in idle rumours usually. He's a solid well respected Journalist.

The club is definitely changing hands soon. We just have to be patient.
Partial sale will feel like we aren't gaining much
 

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Really hope it works out that way
For all we know it's a full sale anyway. They didn't rule anything out.

The transfer kitties have always been sufficient in the post Fergie years too. We've just wasted majority of it because we've got Muppets in high places at the club.
 

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For all we know it's a full sale anyway. They didn't rule anything out.

The transfer kitties have always been sufficient in the post Fergie years too. We've just wasted majority of it because we've got Muppets in high places at the club.
Yeah definitely wasted a lot of money in 10 years
 

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There would be some heavy protesting if the Glazers hang around. To bad we won't be able to make our voice heard before after the fact, because non of the journalist covering this team cares to seek up Ratcliffe, Beckham and co to get a comment. If the Glazers aren't giving Ratcliffe a chance to buy the team, why would he not comment on it? If he is in a process, he will say something like 'we aren't commenting on it now, let us come back later'. Instead we get complete silent because Luckhurst and co are busy bugging ETH with questions about Maguire. #LuckhurstOut. Anyone know anyone at Manchester Evening News? How do we get LuckhurstOut? :)
:lol: Don't want to wish any ill on Lockhurst. He is just a reporter, not an asshole billionaire, and probably earns his bread with his job, but I admit he can be annoying AF :)
 

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I have a hunch we won’t be rid of the vermin just yet. All the higher ups at the club have been stating how much they are planning for the future and future windows etc.

You’d imagine they’d be gone if we got new owners so wouldn’t be planning on the assumption they’ll be around.

The saving grace is that some of their jobs are literally based on planning for the future so they’d have to be planning as if nothing changes.
 

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I have a hunch we won’t be rid of the vermin just yet. All the higher ups at the club have been stating how much they are planning for the future and future windows etc.

You’d imagine they’d be gone if we got new owners so wouldn’t be planning on the assumption they’ll be around.

The saving grace is that some of their jobs are literally based on planning for the future so they’d have to be planning as if nothing changes.
Yeah the planning for future windows talk sounds like they aren't going anywhere yet
 

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I have a hunch we won’t be rid of the vermin just yet. All the higher ups at the club have been stating how much they are planning for the future and future windows etc.

You’d imagine they’d be gone if we got new owners so wouldn’t be planning on the assumption they’ll be around.

The saving grace is that some of their jobs are literally based on planning for the future so they’d have to be planning as if nothing changes.
A company I worked for got bought for $5bn. We knew it was happening but not the exact dates. When it got finalised, we just got am email to say the company was now sold.

The transition was so smooth, no one noticed. It's only after they got their feet under the table were there some changes.

Moral of the story, nothing will change until at least the purchase has been complete. The club will run as usual. Glazers are still in charge. It's still their club. So they will carry on until things change.
 

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With the news that the Super League is expecting to start in 2025 its just 2 years more for the Glazers to hang on for the big big payday.
 

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With the news that the Super League is expecting to start in 2025 its just 2 years more for the Glazers to hang on for the big big payday.
The super league is not happening for the PL teams.
 

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WWE are doing the whole "strategic alternatives" line too, with Vince McMahon looking to sell the company due to his assault charges etc.

When did "strategic alternatives" become the new twat code for "a sale" ? Or has it always been?
 

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It’s not a bad shout, but you could just avoid the MEN and try a better quality publication….. the Athletic has a few decent journos covering United.
Thanks! I was of course joking about the trust part, but….
 

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WWE are doing the whole "strategic alternatives" line too, with Vince McMahon looking to sell the company due to his assault charges etc.

When did "strategic alternatives" become the new twat code for "a sale" ? Or has it always been?
Almost done deal too apparently, to the Saudis. Then they’ll take company private
 

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Almost done deal too apparently, to the Saudis. Then they’ll take company private
I heard it was the Saudis.

I feel we can count the Saudis out from buying us. Not because of the WWE deal, just that we've heard nothing concrete at all since their sports minister spoke about a month back.
 

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I heard it was the Saudis.

I feel we can count the Saudis out from buying us. Not because of the WWE deal, just that we've heard nothing concrete at all since their sports minister spoke about a month back.
If I were them, I'd just buy United and sell Newcastle.

They're so early in that Newcastle process, they haven't made any huge changes or made significant signings yet. They bought the club fairly cheap and would at least get their money back. Consider it a dummy run

United is a one-off opportunity. They clearly want to own and be invested in the absolute top companies. There isn't a football club around that can be bought who is as popular or as huge as United. It's a different level to Newcastle completely.
 

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I heard it was the Saudis.

I feel we can count the Saudis out from buying us. Not because of the WWE deal, just that we've heard nothing concrete at all since their sports minister spoke about a month back.
I agree with the Saudis. They were going to sponsor us then pulled out at the last minute, could be a sign were being bought by another Arab entity/country
 

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If I were them, I'd just buy United and sell Newcastle.

They're so early in that Newcastle process, they haven't made any huge changes or made significant signings yet. They bought the club fairly cheap and would at least get their money back. Consider it a dummy run

United is a one-off opportunity. They clearly want to own and be invested in the absolute top companies. There isn't a football club around that can be bought who is as popular or as huge as United. It's a different level to Newcastle completely.
I theory, yes this may sound good. However, it wouldn't reflect very well on the Saudis if they did. You can't be taken seriously if you will drop one club for another one and not seeing your vision through.
 

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Yeah the planning for future windows talk sounds like they aren't going anywhere yet
You don't stop with your job because your company may be sold. Have never ever seen this happen in any acquisitions in IT at least.
 

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I theory, yes this may sound good. However, it wouldn't reflect very well on the Saudis if they did. You can't be taken seriously if you will drop one club for another one and not seeing your vision through.
What can happen is for United to be bought by a consortium of Saudi 'private investors' who are basically bankrolled by the royal fund. Both clubs (United and Newcastle) will be allowed to grow concurrently with the former getting more investment up until the time is ripe for Newcastle to be sold. Then the Saudi royal family would buy United.
 

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I have a hunch we won’t be rid of the vermin just yet. All the higher ups at the club have been stating how much they are planning for the future and future windows etc.

You’d imagine they’d be gone if we got new owners so wouldn’t be planning on the assumption they’ll be around.

The saving grace is that some of their jobs are literally based on planning for the future so they’d have to be planning as if nothing changes.
Yeah the planning for future windows talk sounds like they aren't going anywhere yet
That’s a silly assumption to make

Do you expect everyone at the club to stop what they are doing until the ownership is resolved?

They’ll obviously continue. More chance of keeping your job if you’re actually doing it properly.
 

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What can happen is for United to be bought by a consortium of Saudi 'private investors' who are basically bankrolled by the royal fund. Both clubs (United and Newcastle) will be allowed to grow concurrently with the former getting more investment up until the time is ripe for Newcastle to be sold. Then the Saudi royal family would buy United.
Yeah, they could do. I mean, if they really want United, they will find a way. I'm just not too sure of their appetite to jump through hoops to get us, especially as they are investing quite a lot in other sports/entertainment, such as the WWE.

But as you say, if they want to, they will.
 

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Yeah, they could do. I mean, if they really want United, they will find a way. I'm just not too sure of their appetite to jump through hoops to get us, especially as they are investing quite a lot in other sports/entertainment, such as the WWE.

But as you say, if they want to, they will.
Another way they can play around it is for them to buy a minority stake within the club but with the clear (written and legal) statement of buying more in the future. Thus United will be theirs in lets say a decade time which would give them time to raise Newcastle's value and to sell it off.
 
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