MiamiSpartan
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Briefs on this are for PR, to let the public know whatever they want us to know. Not to get one of two bidders to up their price.Yet briefs are very common in football.
Briefs on this are for PR, to let the public know whatever they want us to know. Not to get one of two bidders to up their price.Yet briefs are very common in football.
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That tweet is a shit-show of demented old person rambling tbf.pretty concerning. A match going fan with a Qatar fan at OT and some pro freedom of speech pro democracy pro Ratcliffe fan tried taking it off him
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Ok here’s my takeSo no one knows what's happening. Glazers in London watching on while Jim and Qatar being ghosted by the Glazers. It's fair to say no one knows shit.
So now old people are demented ramblers not long standing fans who are part of the history of the club ?That tweet is a shit-show of demented old person rambling tbf.
I am pro Qatari but I hope that these guys aren't too intelligent for their own good else they risk seeing United being sold to INEOS behind their back.Ok here’s my take
Glazers want a full sale.
Qatar suspect this and think the Avram/Joel desire to stick around is a bluff.
Glazer’s are doing all they can in public to make it look like they are interested in the club.
Bit late for that wankers.
Why can't we admit and respect the fact that Manchester United fans love the club and might have different views on what that best means?That tweet is a shit-show of demented old person rambling tbf.
Didn't know your name was SeamusWhy can't we admit and respect the fact that Manchester United fans love the club and might have different views on what that best means?
How?That tweet is a shit-show of demented old person rambling tbf.
That tweet is a fecking mess. The bloke behind it might be the loveliest fella in the world but, until he figures out how to use punctuation on his phone, I'll withhold judgment.So now old people are demented ramblers not long standing fans who are part of the history of the club ?
really mate, this takeover is stressful and is taking a mental toil on everyone who truly love the club (who can be foreign, local, INEOS fans, Qatari fans etc). I get it that we all have different strong views. However let at least respect one another enough to believe that the other side want what is best for the club.Didn't know your name was Seamus
Agree with everything you saidOk here’s my take
Glazers want a full sale.
Qatar suspect this and think the Avram/Joel desire to stick around is a bluff.
Glazer’s are doing all they can in public to make it look like they are interested in the club.
Bit late for that wankers.
If this is true then the Glazers/Raine are just taking the piss now. You asked bidders to submit bids. They submitted bids. Give them the common courtesy of an official response - not this PR led bullshit that you think will fool one of them into panicking so they add an extra few hundred million to their offer.Tweet
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You called them a demented, wouldn't exactly say you are withholding judgementThat tweet is a fecking mess. The bloke behind it might be the loveliest fella in the world but, until he figures out how to use punctuation on his phone, I'll withhold judgment.
I fully agree and the more I see these ghouls watching games the more I believe that these leaks come directly from them. Which is fecking cruel considering that fans truly love the club and had suffered enough from these aholes. At this point there's zero benefit for either INEOS or Jassim to leak that they are set to become preferred bidders. One is the major shareholder of a 13b worth company and the other is related to the emir of a fecking oil state. Thus both have deep pockets if they wanted to. What's the point of poking the bear? The only ones benefiting of that would be the Glazers and RaineOk here’s my take
Glazers want a full sale.
Qatar suspect this and think the Avram/Joel desire to stick around is a bluff.
Glazer’s are doing all they can in public to make it look like they are interested in the club.
Bit late for that wankers.
I think what’s difficult for people to admit is the fact that there some United fans from Manchester who attend matches that prefer the Qatar bid. It goes against the propaganda of only online fans that have never been to OT want Qatar.Why can't we admit and respect the fact that Manchester United fans love the club and might have different views on what that best means?
What’s punctuation got to do with anything?That tweet is a fecking mess. The bloke behind it might be the loveliest fella in the world but, until he figures out how to use punctuation on his phone, I'll withhold judgment.
That’s how they got Savile in the end. Capone was tax fraud, Jimmy kept mixing up you’re and your.What’s punctuation got to do with anything?
It makes sense. Imagine yourself being SJR. You're a seasoned negotiator who own a frigging petrochemical company which is worth 13b. Would you even try to humiliate some emir's relative by leaking out that you're the preferred bidder and that his bid is pretty much crap? Of course not! What's the point in poking the bear? At best you've burnt bridges with one of the most powerful and richest families in the world. At worst the Emir might want to save the family name's face and he would enter the bidding process himself. Once that happens then we all know it would be game over.If this is true then the Glazers/Raine are just taking the piss now. You asked bidders to submit bids. They submitted bids. Give them the common courtesy of an official response - not this PR led bullshit that you think will fool one of them into panicking so they add an extra few hundred million to their offer.
Of course there are, just as there are foreign people who are pro INEOS. I just shared a pint with someone whose views on INEOS and Qatar makes Wumminator look like an Al Thani. He's not English let alone from Manchester. United has a huge huge fan base and views vary.I think what’s difficult for people to admit is the fact that there some United fans from Manchester who attend matches that prefer the Qatar bid. It goes against the propaganda of only online fans that have never been to OT want Qatar.
It’s very funny how this distinction between fan types is only made by segments in the media. Usually the ones preaching exclusivity etc but the minute there’s an opinion that is against there’s they resort to division.
Ok so by profiting of a culture war, you mean that there's no reason to suspect he is a racist himself, but that he wanted the racism-rooted Brexit to be implemented so he could profit from turning the UK into a more racist country?In Post #52,551 in which you are quoted I go on to clarify. . .
As I said above, I’ve seen this play countless times on this forum, & you’re rather bad at it. Check my post history, if I think something/someone is racist I say so. The bolded literally ends with ‘was my point’.
See above, last paragraph, I go on to say Racism isn’t only things people say, that would be like you saying I am referring to sJR as ‘people’, it’s ridiculous. So once again, provide me with a quote where I call sJR a racist cause all you’ve done, & rather poorly, is conflate 2 sentences. Brexit is rooted in racism. One. The portrayal of him as ‘good’ in opposition to Qatar is nonsense. Two.
Let’s park all previous posts. I am categorically telling you that I have never called sJR a racist so now you’ve been told this, again, move on. I’ll further clarify, I don’t think all Brexiteers are ‘racist’ either, hence the use of the term majority not all.
I’m glad the quote is there for the whole world to see because it certainly doesn’t show me calling sJR a racist. You keep proving you’re very under equipped this topic, the terms aren’t to be used lightly hence why I didn’t label him anything.
Nonsense. If you're gonna be the voice of the fans, you need to at least be a fan. Someone who at the very least has stood on the terraces. Goldbridge is an opportunistic wa**er who creates online controversy for clicks.Goldbridge = Nottingham Forest fan?
Ratchcliffe = Chelsea fan?
The most pathetic thing is that,you aren't shameful to support a Chelsea season ticket holder to buy Man Utd.
Too much double standards from you.
Is your guess? Or are you claiming to be a ITK? We're all just guessingBriefs on this are for PR, to let the public know whatever they want us to know. Not to get one of two bidders to up their price.
that's mighty ironic coming from those supporting the Jassin bid and esp. youWhy can't we admit and respect the fact that Manchester United fans love the club and might have different views on what that best means?
The 2nd paragraph is where I am. The 3 options of the Glazer's, Qatar or Ratcliffe are all shit but Ratcliffe is the least shit, not being the Glazer's and not a state using United as a sportswashijg project.Nonsense. If you're gonna be the voice of the fans, you need to at least be a fan. Someone who at the very least has stood on the terraces. Goldbridge is an opportunistic wa**er who creates online controversy for clicks.
Also, when have I said I'm pro Ratcliffe? I'm just opposed to Manchester United being a state sponsored sport washing project. Ratcliffe is the lesser of three evils. Being a cheerleader for any of these people is bizarre behaviour.
Why? I have very strong views on qatar but I was usually respectful towards fans who were not. I was far more respectful then those who portrayed themselves as superior fans while calling me names (ex hater) and invited support other clubsthat's mighty ironic coming from those supporting the Jassin bid and esp. you
Aren't you generalising a bit? I for one wouldn't want mbappeThe 2nd paragraph is where I am. The 3 options of the Glazer's, Qatar or Ratcliffe are all shit but Ratcliffe is the least shit, not being the Glazer's and not a state using United as a sportswashijg project.
Whoever takes the club over should continue to be scrutinised and generally opposed by the fans because they're bad people, so many fans are gagging for Mbappe and shiny signings that if it's Qatar there will be so many cheerleaders embarrassing themselves to support them.
A bit?Aren't you generalising a bit? I for one wouldn't want mbappe
OK I was obviously being a bit mischievous with the Mbappe bit (although a massive chunk of those supporting them are primarily because of the potential big signings) but why are people turning up to games with Qatar flags? It's happened multiple times now. Stop twerking for any of these arseholes, particularly for a state who want to use the club to launder their reputation.Aren't you generalising a bit? I for one wouldn't want mbappe
Where are you seeing this?This is going to run and run, what would be hysterical now is if SJ actually bid £6bn or $7.45bm and made it public with a 7 day window for the Glazers to actually decide or SJ and 92 Foundation pull out?
There are strong rumours in the Middle East that this is about to happen, I still think even then the parasites will ask for more, that’s $5.145bn between all 6 siblings and a windfall for the other shareholders who would put pressure on the Glazers to sell at that price?
None of us want to see any Glazer at another final like the woman’s fa cup today, it just makes every united fan sick in their stomach, time to just F…Off and the sooner the better, they really are like a bad smell that lingers and never ever leaves the room!
Unfortunately none of our ranting will make one iota of a difference to their decision to stay or leave. I’m past caring it’s time to just let the process whatever it might be simple Fulfil itself to its natural conclusion.