The tweet says that Jassim "agreed and approved" United's credit facility with BofA, even though that credit facility is 3 years old.How reliable is the tweet?
I'd say the the reliably of the tweet is somewhat in doubt.
The tweet says that Jassim "agreed and approved" United's credit facility with BofA, even though that credit facility is 3 years old.How reliable is the tweet?
Chelsea were not sold for 4.7bn. The deal included a promised investment of 1.75bn - something which the Glazer’s want to ignore. They have a much bigger bid on the table with a promise of further investment - but they don’t care about that, all they want is as much as they can get for their shares.
When it comes to business transactions involving football clubs, I only trust Bloomberg. Hence I don't believe stories like Avram and Joel wanting to stay or Ratcliffe is winning due to his offer being better overall.How reliable is the tweet?
Agreed and approved could also mean they're ok with transfers being made out of that existing credit line, given that the sale could even take a few months more months. Doesn't have to mean it's a new credit lineThe tweet says that Jassim "agreed and approved" United's credit facility with BofA, even though that credit facility is 3 years old.
I'd say the the reliably of the tweet is somewhat in doubt.
Ok thanks,What the journo has also reported is that Sheikh Jassim and his team have been stunned by the Glazers raising the price by 1bn after agreeing to sell for 6bn. So I'd take everything with the a pinch of salt for now because the Glazers are going to try and extract as much money out of this sale as possible.
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It’ll no doubt be put in place by the EPL/FA AFTER we get sold just like they stopped takeovers like the Glazer’s did with us AFTER they’d bought us with our own money.Thanks, it’s ridiculous though even if they do eventually get their asking price. The EPL/FA should’ve changed the rules by now insisting on applying an independent valuation for any club sale in the future. Hopefully it’ll prevent situations like ours ever being repeated.
In that report the amount is in euros rather than pounds so is probably right, Chelsea were sold for £2.5 billion plus £1.75 billion guaranteed investment so an outlay of £4.25 billion which is probably around €4.7 billion based on the exchange rate.Chelsea were not sold for 4.7bn. The deal included a promised investment of 1.75bn - something which the Glazer’s want to ignore. They have a much bigger bid on the table with a promise of further investment - but they don’t care about that, all they want is as much as they can get for their shares.
Because getting into the UCL is worth an extra half billion quid obviously. Does anyone actually fall for this crap?Hes saying that Jassim will pay the 6bn if UCL qualification is guaranteed due to the potential sponsorships he could bring to the club on the back of that.
Exactly. Chelsea were sold for about £2.5bn - the rest was promises.It’ll no doubt be put in place by the EPL/FA AFTER we get sold just like they stopped takeovers like the Glazer’s did with us AFTER they’d bought us with our own money.
In that report the amount is in euros rather than pounds so is probably right, Chelsea were sold for £2.5 billion plus £1.75 billion guaranteed investment so an outlay of £4.25 billion which is probably around €4.7 billion based on the exchange rate.
SJR would not spend £300-400m, I still think SJ would not, however CL football for a huge Club like united if they sold the following ; D Henderson(30m), H Maguire(30m), AWB (35m), A Teles (10m), B Williams(10m), E Bailey (5m), Fred (15m), A Ellanga(10m), DVB(15m) plus loaned M Greenwood, A Martial out for 6/12 months they probably could spend £300-350m especially if the debt was paid but 11/12 players being sold, loaned or released would mean we need 7 players coming in and probably 2 or 3 free transfers!I think the transfer list would have been shared with Jim as well.
No we don’t but I do think there is something in this now bring a bonafide state bid and the Qatar state are embarrassed at ;Because getting into the UCL is worth an extra half billion quid obviously. Does anyone actually fall for this crap?
If Qatar bought United they wouldn't either.Currently there is no one who own two football giants. That in itself is uncharted territory
Wow. Where did you get all these facts?No we don’t but I do think there is something in this now bring a bonafide state bid and the Qatar state are embarrassed at ;
1. The delay in buying Man United
2. Jealous at Abu Dhabi Success at City and if they win the CL, they would have succeeded 15 years into their project, PSG still have not won CL
3. Qatar buying Mbappe and Neymar was the highlight of their tenure in France but they are definitely getting bored of the Farmers League and the huge restrictions of the financial vehicle of the Ligue 1
4. Probably hugely worried by Saudi incredible quick success of qualifying for CL for Newcastle. Saudi are so rich, they know they can’t entice people to the North east , they’ll probably reclaim land up on the coast on the north east and build some super man made island that looks like the Bhurj Khalif and the Palms in Dubai and give all new signing a small island.
5. Qatar could probably JustIfy with united a £300m yearly shirt sponsorship and give the club serious opportunities in transfer market so CL just allows them to go after the best players as they will just do what Abu Dhabi do already, one wage in the UK and a huge second contract with their new Qatari bank account for image rights and a Qatar ambassadorial contract.
Well Democracy isn't all it's cracked up to be, that's true, but it's still better than the alternativesI think the person most insufferably ardent that this is not a state bid also saying 'maybe democracy isn't all it's cracked up to be' is too much to have going on.
Sorry that's ludicrous, the value of anything is what someone us prepared to pay for it in a capitalist societyThanks, it’s ridiculous though even if they do eventually get their asking price. The EPL/FA should’ve changed the rules by now insisting on applying an independent valuation for any club sale in the future. Hopefully it’ll prevent situations like ours ever being repeated.
And Mourinho described that book as a bunch of bullsh*t.Take everything with a pinch of salt. But Torres is a reputable journo hence Mourinho asked him to write his book. He's actually gone into a little bit of detail regarding the process.
How is SJR "a partner of the Glazers"?I've suspected this for some time.
No, they did not.But the two years prior to Ratcliffe they qualified in both years.
I wasn't aware that such leveraged buyouts like ours had been stopped. I remember Burnley being similarly bought out and ending up in a financial mess when they were relegated. I know there was talk of some curbs on leveraged buyouts. If true it's good news but of course too little too late to prevent us from being leeched off from the Glazer succubus's!It’ll no doubt be put in place by the EPL/FA AFTER we get sold just like they stopped takeovers like the Glazer’s did with us AFTER they’d bought us with our own money.
If people are un happy with their leaders it's probably a little better to remove them via democratic process rather than years of oppression and a bloody revolution. This really is a silly discussion.There have been many examples of leaders chosen from a democratic process who have killed millions. Similarly, there have been many theocratic leaders who have caused untold atrocities. I am only saying don't get too hung up on the process.
Yeah just like we see with many of our transfersYou can’t just buy a club that isn’t up for sale. Same goes for Spurs. The journalism is so poor.
However, it’s probably to apply pressure to the Glazers to hurry up and sell.
Yeah you would think soNot looking good lads. If they where happy with the bids there'd be a preferred bidder by now you would think.
Yeah we were only 10 mins away on Sat from securing qualification. Just needed Watkins not to miss that pen at Kop endIf that’s true, it could be the reason for the delay in the announcement until end of season? Clutching straws here.
If you want to continue this discussion I suggest you open a new thread in the CE forum. However, I urge you not to run away with one-word answers. That's not how these platforms work.If people are un happy with their leaders it's probably a little better to remove them via democratic process rather than years of oppression and a bloody revolution. This really is a silly discussion.
PSG are the dominating force in France, United are one of the biggest clubs in the UK. You can't claim that any club who hasn't won the CL aren't great clubs. Arsenal and Atletico Madrid have never won the CL as well. The last time Juventus won it was back in the 90s. That's one mean cup to win.If Qatar bought United they wouldn't either.
Having funds doesn't necessarily translate into hiring the best team, it can go either ways - how about PSG or more recently Chelsea? Any by that argument - Glazers spent money as well but didn't hire the best team (Woodward?). What makes you so sure Qatar will hire the best team?I prefer someone with no track record, but who has the funds to hire the best team for directing the club (as Mansour did at $hitty), over someone whose track record is composed of failures and mediocrity.
There was a tweet but I can’t find it, it was posted here too, but could have some truth to it. Unless I’m adding 2 + 2 together and getting 5:
Just as well I haven't made any such claims then mate. I'm just replying to your claims.PSG are the dominating force in France, United are one of the biggest clubs in the UK. You can't claim that any club who hasn't won the CL aren't great clubs. Arsenal and Atletico Madrid have never won the CL as well. The last time Juventus won it was back in the 90s. That's one mean cup to win.
So it’s done on Thursday I hopeHes saying that Jassim will pay the 6bn if UCL qualification is guaranteed due to the potential sponsorships he could bring to the club on the back of that.
They're not that great. Just having a good period under Simeone. Other than the two he's won, they only have one other league title in the last 45 years.PSG are the dominating force in France, United are one of the biggest clubs in the UK. You can't claim that any club who hasn't won the CL aren't great clubs. Arsenal and Atletico Madrid have never won the CL as well. The last time Juventus won it was back in the 90s. That's one mean cup to win.
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Don't know what to think anymore
How is it? It’s the Glazers who decide on who they sell to.If it's true that his relationship with the Raine group has broken down, then it's over for Jassim, thankfully. Whether that means we'll get Ineos or some minority investment I don't know. I hope Ineos.