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The same goal in two consecutive games and was clear as day the ball was going in.
Here here. De Gea has made mistakes before but today wasn’t his fault.De Gea would probably have got less criticism for the free kick if he had just stayed rooted to the spot.
Get nowhere near it and people would have shrugged and said it was just a perfectly placed kick from a dead ball specialist. Because he managed to *nearly* save it he gets more criticism, because it then looks like he could have done more. And hell, maybe he could have done more if he is getting his hand to the ball. But the reality is that he was still doing well to even get that hand to a freekick that would have beaten pretty much any goalkeeper you want in goal.
As for the corner, it was quite similar to another we conceded not too long ago. Flat corner into the area and De Gea is somehow expected to teleport his way through the mass of six bodies in front of him to get to a ball arriving in front of his near post before any of those other players do. Either he goes for it (and gets blamed for being weak when he predictably doesn't claim it) or he stays on his line (as other more dominant keepers regularly do in that same situation too) and gets blamed for not going for it.
Because people think De Gea doesn't go for crosses enough, any cross he doesn't go for is his fault, ignoring the fact that there are some balls he should absolutely not go for. It's not like there weren't already four United defenders against the two Southampton attackers all going for the same ball in front of him.
They were two excellent set-pieces from one of the best set-piece takers in the league. But because people have a pre-existing narrative about De Gea, it's all on him. Even Roy Keane (who has previously been vicious in his criticism of De Gea) didn't blame him:
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But no doubt the anti-De Gea brain trust will quickly be in to tell us that not only was it entirely De Gea's fault, but that they themselves would have actually kept it out as they understand being goalkeeping more than he does and/or that De Gea has actually been a liability across his entire career, even in his best seasons. Because that's how braindead agenda-posting works.
To be fair Sadler knows the fundamentals better than anyone he’d have known exactly where Ward Prowse was going to put it before he knew himself.Sadler saves that free kick by standing where the free kick went and just catching it
Yep. Collided against the post trying to save that free and was struggling afterwards.Was he injured ?
The times I have seen Hendo play with this defense, there was this calmness on them that is hard to explain. The defense knows DDG weakness and go out of their way to help and this creates confusion in the backfield on set pieces. He may not be as good as DDG when it comes to reflex saves, the calmness should be considered.Was a lot more confident with Hendo in goal
The easier thing to do would have been to learn from the goal he conceded in mid-week.Criticism of De Gea for the second goal is absolute rubbish. Of course the highlights looked bad because he handled the ball behind the line. It was a perfect free kick and the only way he could get to it in the first place was because it had more time to travel behind first.
He is unfortunately a victim of his own success. As others have said, he should have simply watched it fly in and then stared at Fred in an indignant way but he did the harder thing. Tried to save it at the expense of looking stupid and injuring his knee horribly which may end up with him losing his starting position to Dean Henderson.
Agreed. I thought those 2 early saves he made, although routine gave the defence confidence. Solid hands.The times I have seen Hendo play with this defense, there was this calmness on them that is hard to explain. The defense knows DDG weakness and go out of their way to help and this creates confusion in the backfield on set pieces. He may not be as good as DDG when it comes to reflex saves, the calmness should be considered.
Yep, it was identical.The same goal in two consecutive games and was clear as day the ball was going in.
I am talking about the free kick by Ward Prowse.The easier thing to do would have been to learn from the goal he conceded in mid-week.
I've defended him loads in the past but he looked at fault for me on the corner, will have to watch it back. Felt at the time he could come out to collect it but was being bullied. He looked small around the Southampton players.Criticsm for both goals are total bs and agenda driven.
Free kick was perfect and nothing to add to that.
Corner kick was on near post. Gk can't physically get that ball and no keeper in the world rush out on that balls. Because he can't reach it. That is why you have 3 or players there.
Later Hendo did exactly same thing and stayed in the middle of the goal. But defence cleared the ball.
Attacks on DDG lately are insane and without any logic. He is blamed fir every goal which he concedes.
What? To go much early? And if he concede goal in his corner then what? Blame him again?The easier thing to do would have been to learn from the goal he conceded in mid-week.
Only way how he could get that ball is with teleport device. It was whipped corner between 6 yard line and near post. How he can reach that ball?I've defended him loads in the past but he looked at fault for me on the corner, will have to watch it back. Felt at the time he could come out to collect it but was being bullied. He looked small around the Southampton players.
I agree with you. What could De Gea have done with either goal? The first goal, someone gets free of Rashford and squeezes in behind Telles with a near post header at point blank range. The second goal, De Gea does well to get even close to saving a ball flying right within the post. Instead of praising his effort and desire to stop that immaculate freekick which resulted in an injury, I'm astonished that he's being slated.Criticsm for both goals are total bs and agenda driven.
Free kick was perfect and nothing to add to that.
Corner kick was on near post. Gk can't physically get that ball and no keeper in the world rush out on that balls. Because he can't reach it. That is why you have 3 or players there.
Later Hendo did exactly same thing and stayed in the middle of the goal. But defence cleared the ball.
Attacks on DDG lately are insane and without any logic. He is blamed fir every goal which he concedes.
Was it?? He took several steps across.No his positioning of the wall was wrong with the second goal. The first one is not his fault. His footwork was slow for the second one too.
Nothing he could do in the first one.
Perfect postDe Gea would probably have got less criticism for the free kick if he had just stayed rooted to the spot.
Get nowhere near it and people would have shrugged and said it was just a perfectly placed kick from a dead ball specialist. Because he managed to *nearly* save it he gets more criticism, because it then looks like he could have done more. And hell, maybe he could have done more if he is getting his hand to the ball. But the reality is that he was still doing well to even get that hand to a freekick that would have beaten pretty much any goalkeeper you want in goal.
As for the corner, it was quite similar to another we conceded not too long ago. Flat corner into the area and De Gea is somehow expected to teleport his way through the mass of six bodies in front of him to get to a ball arriving in front of his near post before any of those other players do. Either he goes for it (and gets blamed for being weak when he predictably doesn't claim it) or he stays on his line (as other more dominant keepers regularly do in that same situation too) and gets blamed for not going for it.
Because people think De Gea doesn't go for crosses enough, any cross he doesn't go for is his fault, ignoring the fact that there are some balls he should absolutely not go for. It's not like there weren't already four United defenders against the two Southampton attackers all going for the same ball in front of him.
They were two excellent set-pieces from one of the best set-piece takers in the league. But because people have a pre-existing narrative about De Gea, it's all on him. Even Roy Keane (who has previously been vicious in his criticism of De Gea) didn't blame him:
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But no doubt the anti-De Gea brain trust will quickly be in to tell us that not only was it entirely De Gea's fault, but that they themselves would have actually kept it out as they understand being goalkeeping more than he does and/or that De Gea has actually been a liability across his entire career, even in his best seasons. Because that's how braindead agenda-posting works.
You going to criticise Henderson as well then? Identical one in the second half but cavani won the header whereas telles didntWard Prowse/Saints exposed him completely on his weaknesses. These corners were on purpose specifically for today. And that FK was almost a copy of the Istanbul one, albeit a bit better.
So afraid of the post he injured himself against the post trying to save the shot.He had the free kick easily covered he just bottled it because was afraid of the post.
The marking system was all over the place from United and that definitely doesn't help the GK.You going to criticise Henderson as well then? Identical one in the second half but cavani won the header whereas telles didnt
Some of these memes write themselves.So afraid of the post he injured himself against the post trying to save the shot.
See this is where you may not understand. You need to get the wall where the ball has to travel the most distance. By putting the wall where he put it, he gave the opportunity for the free kick to be hit into the near post. He was far to his left. One step to the right he would have been in a good position. And he didn't move his feet quickly enough. I have seen the goals in lots of angles and slow motion too.Was it?? He took several steps across.
It was literally inside the post. Most keepers would just watch that go in.
You want him to stand on the right side and put the wall up to cover his left!?See this is where you may not understand. You need to get the wall where the ball has to travel the most distance. By putting the wall where he put it, he gave the opportunity for the free kick to be hit into the near post. He was far to his left. One step to the right he would have been in a good position. And he didn't move his feet quickly enough. I have seen the goals in lots of angles and slow motion too.
He is not to blame for the first goal at all.