He is certainly very smug and not someone you would really like. Sometimes being the bad manager can work though.
This is the problem, a manager who was never used to the pressure of winning week week out found himself taking Alex Fergusson
Indeed! 2 more wins than I expected.Another 2 wins and they'll erect a statue outside the ground
I expected some wins from them, but not beating Chelsea. 3-0 away against Stoke is very good as well.
That was his Everton record as well. I'll never get over why the feck we appointed him
Agree with most of that, I also think he will keep the Hammers up though the fans may agitate for a new manger come the end of the season. Such is the fickle nature of football.
He sacked the most successful backroom team in the league (Phelan, Meulensteen, Steele) and brought in his Everton cronies who had won nothing. That was his biggest mistake. Those three were sacked by Moyes after winning the league by 11 points, Moyes continually whines about being sacked for failing.
Funny that it's 99% of rival fans on here who feel that the hate towards Moyes is excessive....
By whom, the club? United made bids for Fabregas and a world record bid for Bale. Not to mention going along with his crackpot idea to let Fellaini's reclause expire because he wanted to sign players in a particular order. Only to sign him later for much more than we could have signed him for in July and then signed Mata for a club record fee.
Because most of them love him. Along with a few other nutters.
How exactly was Moyes not supported?
He's so good at signing lower league players he failed miserably at Sunderland and left them with a team full of championship players.
They were already a sinking ship, he did not have a chance to build a squad as he needed to try to stay up.
He joined half way through the transfer period.
He was given unrealistic choices? What evidence do you have to support that?
He joined us on July 1 didnt he? Two months is plenty of time to bring someone in. When he went on vacation he should have made plans to list out the players he wanted. First choices, then plan B and C. Management gave him the money. How do you NOT blame the manager for identifying backup players if he couldnt get his first choice players in? How is that the management's fault? Also if Bale and Cesc were first choice, then Carvalho, Thiago and Strootman were 2nd choice. He couldnt land any one of them either.
I usually dont like Dailymail, but they have an article today about Utd transfer strategies. It says the club discussed Kroos and Alacantra transfers with Moyes who rejected them and asked not to pursue. The Alacantra transfer was also some way donw already by the time Moyes rejected the same.
I always felt that July 1st start date was a bit of a red herring and he had longer than that to prepare because surely there was no way that he didn’t do any work behind the scenes prior to his official “start” date.
Exactly. He knew late May I think that he was going to take over. When he went on vacation, he should have been making notes about things to do when he took over.
This was his biggest mistake in my opinion. Getting rid of the experienced backroom staff who could have helped both him and the team so much was his undoing in my opinion, not the shit transfer window.
Not being funny but what notes does a football manager need on holiday?
Like making a list of players who he can pursue once he starts working, the system the manager wants to implement, training stuff etc. He can do a bit of work when he was vacationing given the staggering nature of the job.
Out of interest why do you think that? I'd imagine it would be an immensely difficult and stressful job.
But is it stressful?
Fair points although in my opinion the only one that a manager can really 'get done' is the transfer list. The off-season is the time of year where CEOs and Chairmen are the ones who are tasked with and I'm sure managers do call and converse even while on holiday. With respect to the others again I think that only can get started once you get to work, especially when you're a new manager. Moyes would have known our players from watching on tv and being a competitor. He would have had an idea in his mind of what they're like. Who knows whether he had dossiers on each players' fitness data etc while on holiday. This is all conjecture but ultimately I still think all this is secondary to getting to to meet the players and get to know them personally and the club staff to understand how the day to day operation is done at the new club.
It's not that I don't think it's stressful or difficult. When millions of people are watching and judging you it is very lonely no doubt. My point is largely around the day to day part of the job that surrounds matchday. To put it this way: I [the fan] am in no way qualified to coach a team. I wouldn't be able to put on a session for coaching kids let alone professionals. I fully appreciate the knowledge required behind being a coach and the inter-personal skills to be a good one. And there are levels to being decent/good/great/Sir Alex.
Thats often the down side of doing a shit job and getting a team relegated.
You are either on a wind up mate or horribly misinformed, hopefully just the latter. He was appointed on May 9th 2013 before the season even ended. The transfer window doesn't open until July 1st. So ne he didn't actually join half way through the transfer period.
No you have that backwards, Moyes gave United unrealistic targets. Thats how it works at United you know, the manager picks players to sign and the club then try to sign them. Also Moyes most definitely did want Fellaini he just didn't want to sign him first which is why he was signed on deadline day.
Again thats the managers job, Moyes was woefully unprepared for the job or just woefully out of touch with scouting players. His time at Sunderland would suggest the latter is much more likely.
Well to be fair he's right he could manage any club in the world, just not very well.
I hate the cretin because of what he did to Utd but can't stand him because of the never ending shite he spews. My girlfriend’s brother works as a steward at the Olympic Stadium. He’s stationed very close to the dug outs and if I ask him nicely he will shout out at least three Moyes-related obscenities a match. Feel free to add any suggestions and I will pass them on.
