Don't disagree, but today is a day to be optimistic about this lineup for the 2nd half of the season:Seems to me like in the last period he completely gave up trying to build a functional team, and focused on getting results (that's just a fancy way of saying I am surprised McTominay is a regular and Bruno keeps playing no matter what). I don't blame him because we did get the points and somehow (with other teams dropping points) the situation has been stabilized.
That said I think we're going to suffer in December as we look shite in this setup, and any decent teams will just create a lot of chances. Martinez might help but Casemiro will not (if we throw him as a lone midfielder in default system ETH has been using this season).
Worst post I’ve ever read.Moments FC. As usual.
18 months down the line, and £400 million spent and he still hasn’t got us looking anything like a cohesive team. And the best two players on the pitch today were youth players that he had no influence in signing. It’s just not good enough.
In the games against very poor opposition, but yes this is true. But I think if you watch us play it is very obvious we don't move the ball good enough to put our attackers in promising positions regularly. The ball sometimes falls to their feet but it's just not sustainable.His adaptive approach still has more than enough service to the front men. They just haven't been anywhere near good enough in their on quality.
We will need Rashford or Bruno (probably both) to hit a December purple patch for us to maintain the good form with the fixtures ahead.
He had influence in blooding those youth players though which deserves credit.Moments FC. As usual.
18 months down the line, and £400 million spent and he still hasn’t got us looking anything like a cohesive team. And the best two players on the pitch today were youth players that he had no influence in signing. It’s just not good enough.
I’ve been harsh on ETH and yes it’s frustrating to not be able to control games but come on. A 3-0 away win at a tough Everton ground after the points deduction and one of the Prems best ever goals? let’s give it a rest for nowMoments FC. As usual.
18 months down the line, and £400 million spent and he still hasn’t got us looking anything like a cohesive team. And the best two players on the pitch today were youth players that he had no influence in signing. It’s just not good enough.
I agree with this.Don't disagree, but today is a day to be optimistic about this lineup for the 2nd half of the season:
Garnacho/Rashford--------Hojlund--------------------RW
-----------------------------------------Bruno-------------------------
------------------------Mainoo-----------------Casemiro-------
Shaw------------Lisandro---------------Maguire------------Dalot
---------------------------------------Onana---------------------------------
and pray that one of the right wingers finds some form and Mainoo and Casemiro (which makes sense stylistically, a calm but small midfielder mostly sitting and Casemiro sitting and charging about) compliment each other well. Then the summer, we need to replace Casemiro and Varane with starters.
Yeah my bad, with the way people have been banging on about Spurs this season I just saw that we were two points off them and my brain assumed that they were in top 4.Well, 4 pts off.
This one wishes they would quitWe just won 3-0 away and we're only six points off the top, having endured an absolute plague of injuries. I swear some of our fanbase would quit posting if there was nothing to moan about.
your posts are complete and utter shiteWe were all told by the deluded ones that we just needed Shaw & Martinez back and we’d be playing incredible football full of goals.
Well one 1/2 of them are back today and we’re as shit as ever.
I think it's fair to say we played that way today. McTominay mostly did regular box-box things and Mainoo sat in the buildup and otherwise did similar. Our shape was basically 4-2-3-1 with Bruno all over the pitch as usual for much of the game (and closer to 4-1-2-3 with the ball), though I don't think that's a bad thing, probably makes him tougher to mark for the opposing DM, and him getting open to play through balls and score goals are still our main source of offence. McTominay being better than Casemiro at running into the channel between the LB and CB to cross a ball once every game.I agree with this.
But I think there is zero basis that ETH would move towards 2 man midfield. It's pretty clear what he wants to do and this is also the reason why I'm skeptical about him.
If you’re going down that route, you can also easily argue that we’ve been lucky to win at least half of our eight wins. We have more points than our football merits, not less.The gas thing about the spurs and arsenal games we have played is that VAR and poor finishing lost us those games. People keep going on about how poor we have been , which is true, but there’s never any balance.
As bad as we have been , there have been moments of class and it feels like if our forward line can find some form we could have a solid second half of season.
I think McTominay played advanced role. He did hoover around central areas but when we lost the ball he was mostly chasing it rather than shielding back 4. Like I said before, this is default ETH team setup. Mount also plays this way for us.I think it's fair to say we played that way today. McTominay mostly did regular box-box things and Mainoo sat in the buildup and otherwise did similar. Our shape was basically 4-2-3-1 with Bruno all over the pitch as usual for much of the game (and closer to 4-1-2-3 with the ball), though I don't think that's a bad thing, probably makes him tougher to mark for the opposing DM, and him getting open to play through balls and score goals are still our main source of offence. McTominay being better than Casemiro at running into the channel between the LB and CB to cross a ball once every game.
Basically a teenager had a good 70 minutes and I'm ready to build the team around him. How are we this close to making the CL again?
Oh look it’s the leader of the ‘Shaw & Martinez will transform the team’ brigade. Didn’t look very transformative today when Everton were running all over us creating chance after chance. But hey, this is the exactly the kind of post we’ve come to expect from you. You love to attack posters that you disagree with rather then engage in any kind of actual discussion. You’re just an awful and unnecessarily aggressive poster. Hardly comes as a surprise though given your day job.your posts are complete and utter shite
The funny thing is we held our own very well against Arsenal, should have been well up by half time to Spurs and started our first 30mins to City surprisingly well too. The last one is clutching a bit but it's frustrating we got 0 points from all of those.In the games against very poor opposition, but yes this is true. But I think if you watch us play it is very obvious we don't move the ball good enough to put our attackers in promising positions regularly. The ball sometimes falls to their feet but it's just not sustainable.
Anyway, against the big boys I see far bigger issues in midfield/defensively than in attack.
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Absolute dross.Oh look it’s the leader of the ‘Shaw & Martinez will transform the team’ brigade. Didn’t look very transformative today when Everton were running all over us creating chance after chance. But hey, this is the exactly the kind of post we’ve come to expect from you. You love to attack posters that you disagree with rather then engage in any kind of actual discussion. You’re just an awful and unnecessarily aggressive poster. Hardly comes as a surprise though given your day job.
If people want to stick their heads in the sand and get giddy over a few barely deserved wins over the teams in 19th, 17th & 15th place over the past few weeks then knock yourselves out. But the next few weeks are going to come as a big shock to you because if performances don’t improve substantially, it could get very messy indeed.
It is a bit frustrating but on the other hand we had games that we maybe didn't deserve to win (based on performance - today is a good example) and still got 3 points so it evens out in the long run. Although I don't think we were that close to Arsenal, yes it looked like we were winning for a moment (Garnacho goal) but their 3 goals wasn't really outperforming their chances, while we definitely did outperform ours.The funny thing is we held our own very well against Arsenal, should have been well up by half time to Spurs and started our first 30mins to City surprisingly well too. The last one is clutching a bit but it's frustrating we got 0 points from all of those.
If they're this miserable after a 3-0 away win then surely at this point they've got to question whether football is the right sport for them.Being this miserable feels so utterly pointless. Why are you wasting your life with something you seemingly struggle to enjoy?
Won't be a miracle and form in the league isn't bad as I stated earlier only once in the last 5 seasons have United had more points after 13 games. Why shouldn't be in this position? over overachieved last season and this season had to deal with a long injury list and off the field issues.It will be a miracle finishing 4th considering our form this season. We shouldn't have been in this position but as we are in it now, can't do anything about it.
I think Chelsea and spurs will miss out. I also think a lot of it will come down to who progresses in Europe, Newcastle and us for example could both head into the Europa league which is a very long season and it gives teams like spurs and Chelsea a chance to push on as they’ll be a lot fresher.Based on early season, top 4 really did seem far away. But with the expected Spurs drop off, it's going to be a dog fight between us and Newcastle, maybe Chelsea if they find form.
Think he meant we shouldn’t be in this position as we should have beat palace at home and maybe Brighton. Got done over by the decisions against spurs and Arsenal. We could have easily been in the top 3 by now.Won't be a miracle and form in the league isn't bad as I stated earlier only once in the last 5 seasons have United had more points after 13 games. Why shouldn't be in this position? over overachieved last season and this season had to deal with a long injury list and off the field issues.
This is where the hope is. As poorly as we have been for so long and playing messy choat football since the start of the season, if the right personnel can be found to form the right formula, we might be able to click someday. During the last few league games, at least we have grind out the results. It gives ETH a little bit space to breathe. It’s the next string of touch games for this team to make or break I think. The performance has to be improved consistently first and foremost. Otherwise, it is too hard to get much from the next few games.The gas thing about the spurs and arsenal games we have played is that VAR and poor finishing lost us those games. People keep going on about how poor we have been , which is true, but there’s never any balance.
As bad as we have been , there have been moments of class and it feels like if our forward line can find some form we could have a solid second half of season.
The thing you don't get is, every time we win a game, it shows how bad we are.Absolute dross.
Too early to say. I think spurs will bounce back, considering that they performed well mostly.Based on early season, top 4 really did seem far away. But with the expected Spurs drop off, it's going to be a dog fight between us and Newcastle, maybe Chelsea if they find form.
Dead right.If they're this miserable after a 3-0 away win then surely at this point they've got to question whether football is the right sport for them.
