And at least some of our previous failed managers could either scrub wins against the top sides through solid defending and counter punching, or build teams that could style on the weaker teams and score goals for fun (best seasons of Jose and Ole)
I don't even know what you're trying to say here. I used Bayern as a recent example that elite football teams sack underperforming managers, they do. If you're going to say Bayern are the "most well-run top club" - then that further corroborates my point - elite football teams sack underperforming managers.
Licha wasn't playing well before his injury either.
That was because his metatarsal didnt heal properly.
Thats the thing -- most people like to compare managers -- XXX current manager against the last few months of the previous manager (which would obviously be crap or they wouldn't be sacked).
Oh.. wasnt aware of that.
The same striker that people said is missing for ETH right now.
Now now.. don't you know that every manager will need 5 seasons and 1 billion spending to score more than everton and luton?
This is absolutely damning. He was what those of us who wanted him here for, represented in terms of football played and aggression in play as well as supposedly being an excellent coach.On the dutch paper site AD, there are quotes from Ten Hag talking to VIAPLAY saying we will never play like how he played at ajax, that's not why he came here. "The way we played at AJAX, you won't ever see that here." "The player material decides how we play. That's why I can not let this team play the way I did at ajax. I have to, I can't play the same way here. It's also not in the DNA of Manchester United. Ajax football is very specific, here we have to play more direct. We have the type of players for that."
He speaks like at United we do not accept or want Ajax type of football and he is forced to play a different brand... I'm sure many on the caf were dreaming of our team playing like his Ajax team and that it was a big reason many wanted him here for... Is this shit football and his player acquirement strategy just a confused Ten Hag thinking we want hoofball?
He has to go and we can still save our season. It's not acceptable that we have spent half a billion and have no idea or whatsoever how to play basic football.
Be absolutely staggered if Ashworth leaves Newcastle when they are going places with insane investment too,Erik is looking more like a De Boer than peak Van Gaal
Honestly, there is no defending him playing Evans over Varane for tactical reasons.
Interim. It doesn't have to be the man.
What @Theonas said regarding him is spot on then.On the dutch paper site AD, there are quotes from Ten Hag talking to VIAPLAY saying we will never play like how he played at ajax, that's not why he came here. "The way we played at AJAX, you won't ever see that here." "The player material decides how we play. That's why I can not let this team play the way I did at ajax. I have to, I can't play the same way here. It's also not in the DNA of Manchester United. Ajax football is very specific, here we have to play more direct. We have the type of players for that."
He speaks like at United we do not accept or want Ajax type of football and he is forced to play a different brand... I'm sure many on the caf were dreaming of our team playing like his Ajax team and that it was a big reason many wanted him here for... Is this shit football and his player acquirement strategy just a confused Ten Hag thinking we want hoofball?
That is true.
Yeah there has to be a change at recruitment level first,I guess the question is would Ratcliffe be ruthless enough to make a change so early in his time at Utd. Will he adopt that approach I need time to judge Erik before making a decision
A lot of it's relative to expectations as well.
Wasn't that because of his own pedigree? Losing to Sevilla wasn't the nail in the coffin it was his melting down in the press conference and how bottling in the CL was our heritage... Of course the football was dire as well, so just like lvg it was a factor and people were losing patience.
Well, are you genuinely believing playing Varane rather than Evans could save us from this game?
Very rarely do we come across something actually interesting and revelatory from these coaches but if the quotes on @Kevin 's post are true, this really answers a lot of questions!
Wasn't this guy hired because he supposedly had a great interview in which he chastised the direction of the club and highlighted how he'd move us forward and how he wanted us to play? If that's not the case, then what's the point of him?On the dutch paper site AD, there are quotes from Ten Hag talking to VIAPLAY saying we will never play like how he played at ajax, that's not why he came here. "The way we played at AJAX, you won't ever see that here." "The player material decides how we play. That's why I can not let this team play the way I did at ajax. I have to, I can't play the same way here. It's also not in the DNA of Manchester United. Ajax football is very specific, here we have to play more direct. We have the type of players for that."
He speaks like at United we do not accept or want Ajax type of football and he is forced to play a different brand... I'm sure many on the caf were dreaming of our team playing like his Ajax team and that it was a big reason many wanted him here for... Is this shit football and his player acquirement strategy just a confused Ten Hag thinking we want hoofball?
No, but there's absolutely no reason Evans should ever play ahead of Varane in an important game if the latter is fit.
It blames the players too much for the failings of the manager. Comfortable 4-0 wins are rare under Ten Hag. We make hard work of every single win we get. No real evidence of a good high press after >1y of him coaching it. No real evidence that we can build up confidently if a team decides to press us. No real evidence that we can break a team down if they decide to sit in a 5-3-2 low block.
I agree with this assessment, albeit with too much influence over player signings.
I agree that this is huge news. We signed EtH because we wanted to play like his successful Ajax. Now we find he has abandoned that? So it wasn't that we were trying to play like Ajax but were failing to do so? What good is he then? Next.
If those quotes are real that is fecking damning. Very Ole-esque.On the dutch paper site AD, there are quotes from Ten Hag talking to VIAPLAY saying we will never play like how he played at ajax, that's not why he came here. "The way we played at AJAX, you won't ever see that here." "The player material decides how we play. That's why I can not let this team play the way I did at ajax. I have to, I can't play the same way here. It's also not in the DNA of Manchester United. Ajax football is very specific, here we have to play more direct. We have the type of players for that."
He speaks like at United we do not accept or want Ajax type of football and he is forced to play a different brand... I'm sure many on the caf were dreaming of our team playing like his Ajax team and that it was a big reason many wanted him here for... Is this shit football and his player acquirement strategy just a confused Ten Hag thinking we want hoofball?
I don’t think so, but everyone has opinions, rightly so.
It pains me to say but this is why he won’t work at United. We needed someone to come in and mutate this supposed DNA of ours into something more modern. I genuinely thought we were finally getting a manager whose vision was to see us dominate the ball like Ajax, like Bayern, City etc and that the vision came first. Instead it seems he’s someone who has accepted us for what we are and is trying to make the most out of that where’s the truth is that what we have / are is nowhere remotely near what is needed achieve big things.On the dutch paper site AD, there are quotes from Ten Hag talking to VIAPLAY saying we will never play like how he played at ajax, that's not why he came here. "The way we played at AJAX, you won't ever see that here." "The player material decides how we play. That's why I can not let this team play the way I did at ajax. I have to, I can't play the same way here. It's also not in the DNA of Manchester United. Ajax football is very specific, here we have to play more direct. We have the type of players for that."
He speaks like at United we do not accept or want Ajax type of football and he is forced to play a different brand... I'm sure many on the caf were dreaming of our team playing like his Ajax team and that it was a big reason many wanted him here for... Is this shit football and his player acquirement strategy just a confused Ten Hag thinking we want hoofball?
It's not necessarily Ole-esque. Ole knew nothing else and could do nothing else. He just tried to do what Fergie did except he lacked the aura, charisma, leadership and much more. It's unclear to me why EtH says that, he seems to imply that it's about the players' profile and add the "also it's not in United DNA". It doesn't sound to me that he is married to the romance of it, more so that he feels it's the best we can do with the "material" as he puts it, we have.
These combined posts point to the major issue with him abandoning his own principles: he doesn't know how to play more traditional styles of football and he doesn't have the in-game tactical nous to gloss that over.
Unfortunately I don’t think boycotting games will work anyway simply because the Glazers don’t care - they are so far away from it all. What we need is for the American reds to disrupt their NFL games and take the protests there.
Thats fair enough but he actually got enough sway in the transfer market to change it If he really wanted to but he seemed to have taken easy way out . I had my concerns about him once Fernandes became Unstoppable for him and made captain that it was matter of time before it all comes unstuck.
