For the same reason, the United fanbase applauds a manager after he get repeatedly humiliated. For the same reason, we keep underperforming managers. For the same reason, you would like to see EtH the next season (albeit sack him if he doesn't perform), instead of sacking him 6 months ago.
The advantage is that if we sack him now we will at least have an outside chance of winning the FA Cup where as if we keep it its likely to be an even bigger scoreline than the City v Watford final
I have been laughing for multiple seasons now. Become quite an expert.FFS. If you don't laugh, you just have to cry.
Whoever made this is getting banned from the next press conference
Maybe. I doubt it though. I have zero belief in these lads doing a quick turnaround of form, in couple of games.
And last season was great by your own admission. The ethos of Manchester United is to win games of football and trophies, everything else is secondary. You don't throw the baby out with the bathwater because you're winning games but you'd like to have a high press instead.
Well, the results are worse and the performances at least as bad.
Can we ban the press conference? Maybe say ETH has diarrhea or something.
Yeah, you’re totally right!! We should never listen when the most decorated midfielder of his generation says that McLaren was, for him, the best coach ever. Why would that be relevant?
If you can't see how "he doesn't want us to play this way" and "he's not changing the style because this is how he wants us to play" are contradictory, then there's no helping you.
His position is untenable, everyone knows he's getting sacked in 3 weeks regardless. An Interim manager will allow Ten Hag to leave and not have to go through 4 more likely defeats.
Not believable, we're not getting any fluidity or free-flowing movement from him
Im sure they would do better in the remaining games if they had someone managing them who could set the team up properly with actual tactics and some kind of game plan.
Where have you been mate?
Admittedly not paying a huge amount of attention
It seems highly likely to be the case, but we don't yet know for sure that's he gone at the end of the season.
The real incentive is the Cup final itself. I honestly do not think that the players are 'feck it, I do not like EtH so let's just lose 4-0 against Fulham'. The players are trying. They will try to win the remaining matches, especially against the City.
Scholes and Owen are broadly seen to be poor pundits, I'm not sure what that has to do with Ten Hag or being in a **** but feel free to make really shit posts.Yeah, you’re totally right!! We should never listen when the most decorated midfielder of his generation says that McLaren was, for him, the best coach ever. Why would that be relevant?
This is when it starts to become a Ten Hag ****.
The fact that he describes McClaren has the best coach ever should make you pause and question his sense.Yeah, you’re totally right!! We should never listen when the most decorated midfielder of his generation says that McLaren was, for him, the best coach ever. Why would that be relevant?
This is when it starts to become a Ten Hag ****.
It could go either way, which is what I was pointing out.
Fair argument, I agree.
When properly executed there aren't as many turnovers, and in turn there arent as many crazy sprints back to try and salvage 3 on 1 attacks. Not that it matters, its been executed poorly from start to finish - but generally speaking, a better medical staff and better recruitment structure puts the manager in better stead to implement the system.
Players have power, they should never have complete power. Arteta's stance was backed and made clear and now all the players fall in line under him. No one will undermine pep and the same will go for Klopp.
It's not contradictory at all, he wants us to play a certain style that cannot be executed by these players. He should have known that much earlier, and he should have addressed it. It will be his own managerial grave, but there's nothing contradictory in what I said. He has a style, he wants to implement that style, it's not remotely seen this season because of the poor execution, and he failed to adapt away from it.
fecking hell do you even read posts? I've said I'm indifferent about his sack many times
Nothing whatsoever except money (and it's a pittance, relatively speaking).
I agree. I would probably put 5-15% chance winning the cup with an interim in charge, so all things considered, it won't change much (and not much to play in the league for).
How can we possibly make a bigger deal? Follow him around screaming abuse at him all day? We could do it in shifts.
We’ve already scored more goals this season than in the entirety of 2015/16?
Of course it's contradictory. And even if it weren't (which it is), it's still tremendously stupid to continue with a system when the players you've got can't execute it. The fact you've seem this play out for an entire season, with basically no proof that the system will work in the PL anyway, and reached the conclusion of "give him the start of next season" boggles the mind. It's precisely that stance that makes me believe you're Ten Hag in. You can say you're indifferent all you want, but you twist yourself into knots in here trying to absolve him of pretty much all blame.It's not contradictory at all, he wants us to play a certain style that cannot be executed by these players. He should have known that much earlier, and he should have addressed it. It will be his own managerial grave, but there's nothing contradictory in what I said. He has a style, he wants to implement that style, it's not remotely seen this season because of the poor execution, and he failed to adapt away from it.
fecking hell do you even read posts? I've said I'm indifferent about his sack many times
Yeah, agreed. An interim is doing feck all, but he just has to go.
Steve McClaren's generally regarded as an excellent coach. I don't ever remember hearing anyone who's worked with him say otherwise. Sir Alex certainly rated and trusted him. The fact that he was (overall) a failure as a manager is a completely different topic. Though he did win both the Eredivisie and the League Cup with much smaller teams and far fewer resources than Erik ten Hag, so...
I mean, the few games we had Martinez back were night and day to what we have seen for most of the season. We would almost certainly be competing for top 4 if we had Shaw and Martinez fit most of the season. If you consider that we are 10pts off top 4 with the season we have had, its not hard to imagine being there if we weren't reduced to playing Casemiro and Evans at CB and AwB at LB...
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Which games were they? He was terrible at the start of the season and had a couple of half decent games back (although we still shipped a ridiculous amount of goals) then he was injured again.
He’s not getting sacked until after the City game
Which games were night and day from what we’re currently seeing? Even in the first game of the season when we had a mostly fully fit squad, we were largely dominated by Wolves at home.
Eh? I said I'm indifferent about the sack. And I was asked how much time I'd give him more if he stayed and I said he would need to show immediate turnaround at the start of next season.
We don’t actually know how we would look with Martinez and Shaw because we have virtually no games to base this on. They were both there against Wolves in our first game of season where we looked horrible and frankly no better than all the games we’ve lost, but fluked a win. We looked good in the first half against Wolves away when they both returned but looked very poor against Newport few days before and despite winning 3-0 looked average against West Ham as well.
