F1 2022 Season

[hobbers]

Great race from Max and Carlos. And Perez of course.

Bodes well for tomorrow because, at least on the softs those cars actually look so evenly matched.

 

[YzWayne]

Has Leclerc lost every 1v1 duel with Verstappen so far this season? Reliability issues aside, Max always seems to come out on top in these duels.

You forgotten Bahrain so quickly

 

[pauldyson1uk]

excellent sprint race for Max, I thought Leclerc had it in the bag.
Have RB sorted out their reliablity for the main race? if they have Max looks good, it will be a good battle between him and Leclerc.

 

[hobbers]

Mick and Bottas smashing the Mercs

 

[The Firestarter]

Mercedes

 

[ChaddyP]

that was a quite enjoyable sprint race. few will admit though

 

[ChaddyP]

they’ve worked out how to deal with the porpoising; toto has been on to race control and demanded that the other teams go slower so they can be competitive again.

this is the best post ever

 

[The Firestarter]

that was a quite enjoyable sprint race. few will admit though

New regulation made this certainly more exciting.

 

[chris123]

that was a quite enjoyable sprint race. few will admit though

Problem is we could have just had that tomorrow, instead. Now all we've achieved is re-position the slower cars further back.

Was fun for what it was but still feels unnecessary.

 

[hobbers]

Definitely the best sprint race we've seen. But still not sure it adds what the sky team are desperate for us to believe it adds.

 

[Amar__]

Has Leclerc lost every 1v1 duel with Verstappen so far this season? Reliability issues aside, Max always seems to come out on top in these duels.

Well he lost one today at the start of the race.

 

[Amar__]

That was my first sprint race, and I thought it was quite boring. Sprint race in which we had safety car in the second lap doesn't make a good reading.

Good driving from Max though, probably only interesting thing today. Leclerc had right tyre degradation problem from what I've heard, right?

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Definitely the best sprint race we've seen. But still not sure it adds what the sky team are desperate for us to believe it adds.

when Max took the lead, they were like an over excited kids in the playground, who had seen the ice cream man coming though the gates.
The sprint race for me is a waste of time and money, does not add anything to the weekend for me.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

BBC weather is saying slim chance of rain for the race.

 

[Charrockero]

when Max took the lead, they were like an over excited kids in the playground, who had seen the ice cream man coming though the gates.
The sprint race for me is a waste of time and money, does not add anything to the weekend for me.

I still don’t understand it quite yet but I did liked it. The Red Bulls had an awesome pace and Checo ended 3 seconds from Leclerc and like 10 ahead of Sainz.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

I still don’t understand it quite yet but I did liked it. The Red Bulls had an awesome pace and Checo ended 3 seconds from Leclerc and like 10 ahead of Sainz.

Glad you enjoyed it, that what matters.
I think the sprint race was brought in for the newer F1 fans, those that have been watching DTS on Netflix, a lot of more established F1 watchers I have found dont like it.

 

[ZIDANE]

Good sprint race and as we learn I’m sure there will be tweaks to the format at DRS. Today was made better by cars being out of position due to a rain and red flag effected qualifying.

Red Bull looked great, maybe they shed some weight with the exhaust system but assume it was just Leclerc needing to better manage his tyres at the start given we didn’t see a similar drop off from Sainz.

For a moment I thought Leclerc hasn’t made any mistakes and this was going to be a boring championship.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Rank	Driver	Number	Team	Laps	Time	Points
1	Max VerstappenVER	1	Red Bull	21	30:39.56730	8
2	Charles LeclercLEC	16	Ferrari	21	2.975 behind	7
3	Sergio PerezPER	11	Red Bull	21	4.721 behind	6
4	Carlos Sainz JnrSAI	55	Ferrari	21	17.578 behind	5
5	Lando NorrisNOR	4	McLaren	21	24.561 behind	4
6	Daniel RicciardoRIC	3	McLaren	21	27.740 behind	3
7	Valtteri BottasBOT	77	Alfa Romeo	21	28.133 behind	2
8	Kevin MagnussenMAG	20	Haas	21	30.712 behind	1
9	Fernando AlonsoALO	14	Alpine	21	32.278 behind	0
10	Mick SchumacherMSC	47	Haas	21	33.773 behind	0
11	George RussellRUS	63	Mercedes	21	36.284 behind	0
12	Yuki TsunodaTSU	22	AlphaTauri	21	38.298 behind	0
13	Sebastian VettelVET	5	Aston Martin	21	40.177 behind	0
14	Lewis HamiltonHAM	44	Mercedes	21	41.459 behind	0
15	Lance StrollSTR	18	Aston Martin	21	42.910 behind	0
16	Esteban OconOCO	31	Alpine	21	43.517 behind	0
17	Pierre GaslyGAS	10	AlphaTauri	21	43.794 behind	0
18	Alexander AlbonALB	23	Williams	21	48.871 behind	0
19	Nicholas LatifiLAT	6	Williams	21	52.017 behind	0
not classified	Guanyu ZhouZHO	24	Alfa Romeo	0	did not finish completed	0

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Rank	Team	Wins	Points
1	Ferrari	2	116
2	Red Bull	1	69
3	Mercedes	0	65
4	McLaren	0	31
5	Alpine	0	22
6	Alfa Romeo	0	15
7	Haas	0	13
8	AlphaTauri	0	10
9	Williams	0	1
10	Aston Martin	0	0

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Rank	Driver	Team	Wins	Points
1	Charles Leclerc	Ferrari	2	78
2	Carlos Sainz Jnr	Ferrari	0	38
3	George Russell	Mercedes	0	37
4	Sergio Perez	Red Bull	0	36
5	Max Verstappen	Red Bull	1	33
6	Lewis Hamilton	Mercedes	0	28
7	Lando Norris	McLaren	0	20
8	Esteban Ocon	Alpine	0	20
9	Valtteri Bottas	Alfa Romeo	0	14
10	Kevin Magnussen	Haas	0	13
11	Daniel Ricciardo	McLaren	0	11
12	Pierre Gasly	AlphaTauri	0	6
13	Yuki Tsunoda	AlphaTauriA	0	4
14	Fernando Alonso	Alpine	0	2
15	Guanyu Zhou	Alfa Romeo	0	1
16	Alexander Albon	Williams	0	1
17	Mick Schumacher	Haas	0	0
18	Lance Stroll	Aston Martin	0	0
19	Nico Hulkenberg	Aston Martin	0	0
20	Nicholas Latifi	Williams	0	0
21	Sebastian Vettel	Aston Martin	0	0

 

[Cassidy]

New regulation made this certainly more exciting.

To be honest, “overtaking” is still mainly due to DRS. They need to fix this

 

[The Firestarter]

To be honest, “overtaking” is still mainly due to DRS. They need to fix this

Mostly true, but now its far easier to get within drs range.

 

[mitChley]

To be honest, “overtaking” is still mainly due to DRS. They need to fix this

It is, but the new regs allow the cars to follow closer into the DRS zones. Imola is never going to be a track to highlight overtaking.

 

[The Firestarter]

 

[rimaldo]

Glad you enjoyed it, that what matters.
I think the sprint race was brought in for the newer F1 fans, those that have been watching DTS on Netflix, a lot of more established F1 watchers I have found dont like it.

yeah. i get the feeling it’s just there to have another race start over a race weekend. without pit stops and strategy calls is just means the cars sort themselves out during the first few laps and it’s almost a procession. can’t blame drivers for being cautious either, a big shunt on saturday could impact their race on sunday, where the big points are to play for.

 

[Adam-Utd]

To be honest, “overtaking” is still mainly due to DRS. They need to fix this

only on modern tracks with enough width to safely send one down the outside will there be more natural overtakes. tracks like imola are tiny with little run off room. it’s safer just to keep close behind then power down the straight.

 

[Cassidy]

only on modern tracks with enough width to safely send one down the outside will there be more natural overtakes. tracks like imola are tiny with little run off room. it’s safer just to keep close behind then power down the straight.

Im not only talking about today. We have had more than 1 race this season and its improved but its still clear that DRS is required which in my opinion is poor for F1

 

[RoadTrip]

yeah. i get the feeling it’s just there to have another race start over a race weekend. without pit stops and strategy calls is just means the cars sort themselves out during the first few laps and it’s almost a procession. can’t blame drivers for being cautious either, a big shunt on saturday could impact their race on sunday, where the big points are to play for.

Hold on a moment. This actually reads like a serious post? What joke did I miss?!

 

[RoadTrip]

Im not only talking about today. We have had more than 1 race this season and its improved but its still clear that DRS is required which in my opinion is poor for F1

Don’t get me wrong, if cars could overtake consistently naturally without needing a significant speed advantage to do so, then great. But why is DRS necessarily poor for F1? The reality is that even before DRS, most overtakes would happen on or at the first turn after a straight due to slip stream.

The potential issue with DRS presently is not its existence in my view, but the fact that at times it’s so powerful that it reduces the skill level needed to pass, or taking Saudi as an example, leads to drivers doing odd and unnatural things to get DRS rather than be ahead. It’s the balancing that needs fixing.

 

[Cassidy]

Don’t get me wrong, if cars could overtake consistently naturally without needing a significant speed advantage to do so, then great. But why is DRS necessarily poor for F1? The reality is that even before DRS, most overtakes would happen on or at the first turn after a straight due to slip stream.

The potential issue with DRS presently is not its existence in my view, but the fact that at times it’s so powerful that it reduces the skill level needed to pass, or taking Saudi as an example, leads to drivers doing odd and unnatural things to get DRS rather than be ahead. It’s the balancing that needs fixing.

That is completly untrue. DRS was brought in after the issues got so bad that what you say occurred but it was not always the case. DRS basically guarantees you the overtake. I don’t think its a good thing but yes its better than the current alternative.
As I said before it needs fixing

 

[RoadTrip]

That is completly untrue. DRS was brought in after the issues got so bad that what you say occurred but it was not always the case. DRS basically guarantees you the overtake. I don’t think its a good thing but yes its better than the current alternative.
As I said before it needs fixing

Are you really suggesting that historically, even long before DRS, the majority of overtakes did NOT take place on or at the end of a straight? Because if so, it’s false. And otherwise I think we are aligned. Like I said, it’s not that it exists, it’s that it guarantees you the overtake, as you said.

 

[Cassidy]

Are you really suggesting that historically, even long before DRS, the majority of overtakes did NOT take place on or at the end of a straight? Because if so, it’s false. And otherwise I think we are aligned. Like I said, it’s not that it exists, it’s that it guarantees you the overtake, as you said.

No I am saying it didn't occur with an artifical speed boost that practically guaranteed you an overtake

 

[dinostar77]

This current format of sprint racing is pointless. No different to the actual GP on the sunday. Unless the grid is reversed or ballast added im starting to think sprint races are entirely skipable. Takes the shine off the sunday race.

 

[Cheimoon]

This current format of sprint racing is pointless. No different to the actual GP on the sunday. Unless the grid is reversed or ballast added im starting to think sprint races are entirely skipable. Takes the shine off the sunday race.

They should run sprint races in reverse championship order, with qualification determining the Sunday grid and functioning as a tiebreaker if people have the same amount of points. Gives someone else a chance at points and creates a different challenge for the top teams.

It would mess up championship points though, so maybe sprint races should then also go back to just a few points for the top three.

 

[Gringo]

To be honest, “overtaking” is still mainly due to DRS. They need to fix this

They need to get rid of it now. The cars can follow closer enough to gain the slipstream, if you're faster you're going to get passed.

 

[sglowrider]

Glad you enjoyed it, that what matters.
I think the sprint race was brought in for the newer F1 fans, those that have been watching DTS on Netflix, a lot of more established F1 watchers I have found dont like it.

Nah. The true test between the generations is the race girls. Seems almost pointless watching a race now without them.

 

[sglowrider]

This current format of sprint racing is pointless. No different to the actual GP on the sunday. Unless the grid is reversed or ballast added im starting to think sprint races are entirely skipable. Takes the shine off the sunday race.

What you need is a true sprint. Have the drivers run to the cars from a specific location. Then race.

Mansell would have had a heart attack en route to the track, with a fag in hand if this approach was implement earlier.

 

[mariachi-19]

If they want to make these race interesting, they need to give them gumball tyres. Super sticky, super quick to degrade and make them only available for the sprint.

 

[sglowrider]

 

[ChaddyP]

Problem is we could have just had that tomorrow, instead. Now all we've achieved is re-position the slower cars further back.

Was fun for what it was but still feels unnecessary.

i have no issues with more racing. I am a racer give me it non stop. rather watch this than fp3 which it as essentially replaced. I dont mind watching a few times a season.