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At least Jorginho has certain qualities we all know, this lad on the otherhand.
That's why getting him expensive defender is useless.
He could be a matuidi like player, if managed properly by a decent manager.
Sadly I see this happening next season.
City reportedly had a €50m bid rejected by Shakhtar in January. Perhaps we beat them to the signing, or they didn't want to pay as much as we did. Probably nothing to do with player quality.
Nah, they also knew jorginho is a better passer who can unlock defenses with one pass. They chose to go his road.
How much were they willing to say for Jorginho?
If sarri don't go to Chelsea, I think jorginho would have gone to city for the same price.
You consistently chat a lot of shite on here. “Lingard of a footballer” what does that even mean? The guy is quality. When he starts performing well later or under another manager please keep the same energy.
I don't have a crystal ball, but he probably means, a very average football player.
Well that’s just nonsense. He might give the ball away sometimes and might be a bit weak but calling him average is just insane.
City reportedly agreed a £43m deal with Napoli for Jorginho, the same price they bid for Fred in January. Chelsea beat them with a reported £56m double bid for Sarri and Jorginho. City probably went for Jorginho because they were not willing to pay more than the £43m they bid for Fred.
Chelsea beat them as sarri and London lured him to Chelsea, it was not because of the price.
He doesn't look like a 50m player that's all. And fans calling him average have their own reasons and I can see it why. Up till now he has been a disastrous 50 addition to a team that has Phil Jones as a CB, Young and Valencia as FBS and no RW in the team.
Below average so far
I think you missed the point of the whole thing.
No one knows exact details, but I think the fact that they changed targets from fred to jorginho was because his passing range and ball playing ability was better than fred. As a attacking manager you'd always choose ball playing skills and vision first than being jack of all trades like fred. That's the point.
Your last sentence really sums it all up. Believe me when I say even Iniesta would struggle in this team. Now please don’t mistaken me for comparing Fred to iniesta but any creative players suffer especially when others around them are hardly ever moving. Fullbacks won’t ever overlap and the opposition knows this. Against Fulham Dalot consistently did this which created more space for our central players.
Every player has different qualities. If they just wanted a midfielder that pass the ball, then they should have just gone for Jorginho rather than bidding for Fred. Maybe, they weren't willing to pay more than £43m for either. That price would have gotten them Jorginho, but Shahktar turned down the same price for Fred. I'm inclined to believe that Fred was their first choice and they just had to resort to Jorginho after Shahktar rejected their bid.
Mobility, stamina, tackling, interceptions etc. Offensively he's average at best, defensively he is good enough that Guardiola wanted him as the heir to Fernandinho. He will continue to suck for us as long as Mourinho refuses to use him in a defensive position.
The guy's defensive awareness and positioning is atrocious. His defensive game is solely based on mindlessly running around as fast as he can. He isn't a defensive midfielder nor has he ever been one.
Dribbling, passing, tackling and energy in midfield. Has a decent shot on him too but has never been a regular goalscorer so dont expect too much there.
