[Wednesday at Stoke]

Its an open secret that the opponent can play 11 on 10 when they let Fred have the ball.

 

[Raven]

That miss was fecking maddening, haven't been that angry about football in years. Then Rashford goes and equals it!

 

[Vaibhav Raj]

An absolute choke artist every time he steps on the pitch. The ability is there to be at least an okay squad player. Off the ball, he is decent. But on the ball he does some really stupid things and does so in most critical of moments.

 

[Møllemanden]

Anyone got a video of his miss?

 

[saik]

We sorely missed Eriksen. Such a clown and missed couple of good opportunities as well.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

That was tragic.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

He's absolutely fecking shit.

It's criminal he's still here stinking the place out. Should have gone years ago.

 

[Ralph1386]

Easily our weakest link today was him. Does not offer anything.

 

[RVN1991]

Shocking display.

 

[NZT-One]

Thought he was pretty dire today. Wouldn't overly critizise him for the miss though, it was a difficult one and there were 4 defenders, whose only objective was to prevent him vom getting the ball on goal. The fact he brought it as close as he did, was actually a suprise to me.

 

[SadlerMUFC]

Fred was a little better in the second half, but not much. How can a player be at this level and not know what they are doing before they get the ball. Fred takes the ball down, then assesses the situation. By the time he figures out what to do he's either been tackled or the pass he should have made with his first touch isn't on anymore...

 

[NinjaZombie]

Such a strange player. I don't know how to describe him...he does everything, but at a very low level. When he makes good passes, they're slightly underhit or overhit. When he controls a ball, it bobbles slightly around his feet. When he gets into positions to affect a game, like his chance, the end results ends up looking like something a Sunday league player attempted.

 

[TempusFugit]

His performance affected me personally, shockingly bad today. He should be made to re-watch his performance in the game and feel utterly embarrassed.

 

[Jev]

What happened to him? He was decent last season and I was pretty optimistic about him in a Ten Hag side but he barely looks like a footballer this season. Shocking technique to the extent that you're bemused when he makes a decent cross-field pass to Shaw at the end.

 

[Josh 76]

Fred was a little better in the second half, but not much. How can a player be at this level and not know what they are doing before they get the ball. Fred takes the ball down, then assesses the situation. By the time he figures out what to do he's either been tackled or the pass he should have made with his first touch isn't on anymore...

This will be his last season at Utd

 

[Remember the geese]

I would like to see Kobbie Mainoo used when Eriksen needs a rest or is unavailable.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

He's getting worse.

This season so far has been the shittest he's ever looked for Utd.

He looks like a competition winner.

 

[phelans shorts]

He did a very effective job of showing why he hasn’t been playing.

I take it back, far more effective at that job today

 

[Oranges038]

He's terrible. No idea how or why he's still getting played. Not many who could do worse.

 

[#07]

At the end of the day Fred just isn't good enough. We spent £50m downgrading on Ander Herrera.

 

[mu4c_20le]

This will be his last season at Utd

We have an option for another year

 

[Stadjer]

He looked okay last season. A lot of underserved critism at that time just because its Fred. He was by far the better one from the McFred duo. Fast forward and McT actually managed to keep Casemiro out of the team for a short period and play okay while Fred has been on the bench and cant even control a ball or do a quick pass when he is on the pitch.

 

[UnitedWA]

Joga bonito died with Fred...

 

[bosnian_red]

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How. Tough ask for who was worse between him and Ronaldo today IMO.

 

[El Jefe]

He was 0/10 in the first half but improved a lot after the break. Its been obvious for years he's not a good player but he somehow has a fan club here, just a sign of the mediocrity present in the club at the moment.

Thankfully Woodward is no longer here as we'd probably offer him a new contract to 'keep his value'. Hopefully we don't even trigger the player option for him so we can finally be free of the Fred nightmare.

 

[bosnian_red]

He's terrible. No idea how or why he's still getting played. Not many who could do worse.

I mean, he hasn't been playing but Eriksen was ill, McTominay and VdB injured, so in he goes

 

[Erics_Collar]

Fred is now the litmus test for where we are in terms of retaining average and below-aversge players on astoundingly overpaid contracts, which has been one of the more cancerous ailments of this club the last decade.

He's out of the contract in the summer and will be 30 years old.

There's absolutely no way he should be retained, but I fully expect us to renew.

 

[GlasgowCeltic]

insane to not use his right foot for the tap in

 

[Sylar]

How he didn't hit the target is mad.

 

[Abraxas]

I liked his breaking into the box. Nobody did that enough today so I give some credit for being somebody with the initiative to actually do something purposeful.

But unfortunately his technique was a shit show today, everything from passing to finishing.

 

[Leftback99]

Not going to blame Fred when the attack was as bad as it was.

 

[Based Adnan]

Fred is now the litmus test for where we are in terms of retaining average and below-aversge players on astoundingly overpaid contracts, which has been one of the more cancerous ailments of this club the last decade.

He's out of the contract in the summer and will be 30 years old.

There's absolutely no way he should be retained, but I fully expect us to renew.

You know full well he'll be getting a new 2+1 contract to preserve his value. There'll be some in the fanbase saying it's a good decision as well because he's a Brazillian international.

Nothing's changed.

 

[acnumber9]

Can’t pass. Can’t shoot. Can’t defend. He’s now in his fifth season as a midfielder at Manchester United. That sums our team up.

 

[harms]

I love the guy (not sure why, probably because of his attitude) but damn, his final product today was atrocious.
I had hoped that he may reinvent himself next to Casemiro but it doesn't look promising so far.

 

[stevoc]

He's not a DM to get the best out of him he needs a top DM playing behind him. Look at his performances for Brazil beside Casemiro, if we had a player like that beside Fred he would shine.

 

[Poborsky's hair]

This thread is easily the worst on Redcafe, really just some childish overreactions all over the place. But you could always count on some morons here to go overboard here.

Objectively speaking Fred had a mixed game and got better as the game went on, it is kinda expected for him to be a bit rusty after not playing at all for many weeks.

Yeah and he should have scored but it wasn't the easiest position in that speed and being tackled, Rashford just shat his pants fearing he could have missed an open goal which was still easier finish, but yeah split second decision making.

I am sure that this is also a source of all of the hate but noone cares about how horrible the two main men Ronaldo and Bruno were, jsut stinking the palce for more than two full seasons.. but yeah scapegoat FC here blaming the box to box defensive midfielder, sheer stupidity.

 

[Golden Nugget]

The miss sums up Fred. Great drive and desire to burst into the box (no one else did) - poor decision to use his left foot instead of right.

I’m a big fan of Fred, but he was poor today. Was hoping ETH would give Iqbal a run in the second half but never happened

 

[Lyng]

Funny thing is, if you didn't watch the match and only look at stats you would be led to believe Fred had a great game.

 

[Litch]

This thread is easily the worst on Redcafe, really just some childish overreactions all over the place. But you could always count on some morons here to go overboard here.

Objectively speaking Fred had a mixed game and got better as the game went on, it is kinda expected for him to be a bit rusty after not playing at all for many weeks.

Yeah and he should have scored but it wasn't the easiest position in that speed and being tackled, Rashford just shat his pants fearing he could have missed an open goal which was still easier finish, but yeah split second decision making.

I am sure that this is also a source of all of the hate but noone cares about how horrible the two main men Ronaldo and Bruno were, jsut stinking the palce for more than two full seasons.. but yeah scapegoat FC here blaming the box to box defensive midfielder, sheer stupidity.

Absolutely right...

 

[Walrus]

Seeing the lineup I thought it would be a good opportunity for Fred in a system that would favour him.

I didn’t see the game, but clearly I was wrong. Never really rated him anyway, time to get rid.