feck me, hardly played a game this season and there are others who have that are clearly struggling. I cant wait for him to be sold to see who we are going to blame instead.
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- Goals
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- Assists
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- Yellow cards
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Fred has days when he’s the most committed player on the pitch. And then he has days like this.
Not good enough if we are being frank
How is he a Brazilian international, starting over Fabinho and Bruno Guimaraes is beyond me.
Offers top energy and stamina, besides that nothing much.
Offers top energy and stamina, besides that nothing much.
Every coach plays him, even in the NT above Guimaraes and what not.
I think he is constantly being criticized because he is often in many key actions, arriving in balls no other midfielder would arrive.
My theory is that in training he is also in all those key moments but buries the goals or makes better passes that he can't accomplish during a game
I think he is constantly being criticized because he is often in many key actions, arriving in balls no other midfielder would arrive.
My theory is that in training he is also in all those key moments but buries the goals or makes better passes that he can't accomplish during a game
Not a chance in hell Rashfords finish from that angle was easier that Freds in front of the bloody goal. That’s just incorrect.
It’s not just this season is it though? Fred has never had a single actual strength to his game except being a hard worker. He can’t shoot, he can’t pass, he can’t dribble, he isn’t tall or strong, he just runs a lot.
He doesn’t work in a 2-man midfield because he doesn’t bring enough to the table and is poor positionally. Maybe he can work in a three, but that’s only because he can be carried by those around him.
How many goals did he score last season compared to other midfielders at utd and even in the league? What was his passing percentage and retention compared to others here and in the league? There is a lot of BS wrote about Fred which isnt true, hes just the scapegoat for everything wrong at this club.....
Can't fault his effort but he's just technically average to poor 80% of the time. First touch is off, passing is dubious and his finishing is a travesty
He is the opposite of a scapegoat, he has been given far more credit than he deserves. If you want scapegoats look at the likes of Maguire or McTominay, who have contributed far more but been subject to far more abuse.
I used to stick up for him - but the first half today and his performance against Sociedad are some of the worst performances I’ve seen at this club. Ten Hag ball is not for him.
Than he deserves?
Fixed it for you
I like Fred and his energy but he's so shit today. Better sell him asap. How the feck he could miss that.
One thing I don't understand is Brazilians are renowned for being superb ballers. And we ended up with Fred and Andreas
Andreas was a youngster in Belgium and Brazil need some workhorses to do the dirty work for the more talented players tooFixed it for you
I like Fred and his energy but he's so shit today. Better sell him asap. How the feck he could miss that.
One thing I don't understand is Brazilians are renowned for being superb ballers. And we ended up with Fred and Andreas
Fred is an Enigma that way.
When you're on the bench, you cannot use the "i have to play several games to get into my best form" because those opportunities need to be snatched. It'd make sense for a new player or a kid but Fred has been here a while, he shouldn't need 10 games in a row to play decently otherwise he makes it very easy to bench him when better options are available
Has a year left on his contract, with the option for an extra year. Just let him go in the summer.
He is a player who needs a run of games to raise his performance.
Does he really start for Brazil? Because they're favourites for the world cup and something isn't adding up at the moment
Even from this replay tell me that you don't think he's not under absolute pressure in full speed being tackled, with one man on the line, on his weaker food, after running 95 minutes in the game. Rashford has an open goal and many clinical striekers would have just slot it in. I don't think Rash did the wrong thing, the cut back was on, but Fred had awful lot to do. Funnily Rashford himself missed another bigger "sitter" right after for which he's not criticised not even remotely as much as Fred for his last ditch shot.
But this is life, sometimes palyer miss chances, you have to create enough of them to score which we didn't as a team.
He's clearly a much better player than he's been showing. He's been bad so far this season though.
Or he’s just shit
I’ll tell you that an international player at a level good enough to be at Manchester United, should be hitting an empty goal from 15 yards no matter the pressure
Offers almost nothing in the final third, is physically lightweight, useless in the air and his passing and first touch are wildly inconsistent.
Busy, covers plenty of ground, presses well and carries the ball well thorough midfield.
The problem is when it comes down to it, alot of moves break down thanks to his inability in the final third, and he gives the ball away too much in the defensive third thanks to his passing and first touch. And it's far to big a price to pay for his 'good work' which is just running around nicking the ball of people from time to time.
Busy, covers plenty of ground, presses well and carries the ball well thorough midfield.
The problem is when it comes down to it, alot of moves break down thanks to his inability in the final third, and he gives the ball away too much in the defensive third thanks to his passing and first touch. And it's far to big a price to pay for his 'good work' which is just running around nicking the ball of people from time to time.
How many years has he been here? Ultimately will go down as a bad signing. He has had some good performances but he has been here so long he was bound to produce some good games.
He panics and just throws his left foot at it, a serious lack of composure. He should take a touch and shift it on to his right foot then take the shot.
Him and Bruno are the busiest pointless players in world football. You see them and you like the energy they bring but watching them you feel drained and exhausted after the match.
There is no way that Rashford should have shot from there. It’s just not on from that angle with a defender running back. He played exactly the right pass and Fred should have scored. Rashford would have got absolutely slaughtered on here had he been selfish enough to shoot rather than giving Fred an easy finish.
I actually quite like Fred but having him and Bruno in the same midfield is absolutely brutal.
Awful in that first half today especially. He can be a better player than he has been so far this season but at the end of the day, he is not just good enough on the ball to play for this club.
He should've at the very least had the confidence in his own ability to bury it from that angle.
Mark Hughes Vs Barca 1991 anyone ?
He could've gone for it and it would've been a lot percentage attempt, or he could try to lay it to Fred for a much better chance, which he did. Fred just got under it kind of, or was trying to be too precise, when he just had to hit it straight
His precision is just awful. I think that's the best way to describe him. Just awful precision in everything he does.
I agree with that. Think, Fred was under serious pressure already so there wasn't an easy shot on. Wasn't it even deflected? Also the defender was there full force, no chance to control the ball to get on his right foot.
He was pretty bad today, don't want to picture it any different than that but that shot shouldn't be the major stick to beat him with.
To me, the Rashford-Fred situation sums up United these days, that Fred is the only player who is getting upfield in such a situation to at least be around the action. Had he stayed where the rest was, he could have saved himself some of the blame he is now getting for the situation...
Ladies and gents, we need a midfielder (again) next season. A starting one. This unholy trinity of Fred, Mctominay and Bruno should be phased out. All three are masters of chaos. I know Scott has done well this season compared to his own standards but we can’t afford to have them in our midfield and expect to evolve into a top team.
The dilemma is Case and Eriksen would be both 31 next season so we basically have to buy couple of midfielders in addition to a CF, RB and GK.
I have no hope for us as long as these 3 keep featuring for us.
The dilemma is Case and Eriksen would be both 31 next season so we basically have to buy couple of midfielders in addition to a CF, RB and GK.
I have no hope for us as long as these 3 keep featuring for us.
I can't see us spending what is required. A goalkeeper and a striker are far bigger priorities. The likes of Mainoo and Hannibal will be given squad roles I'd have thought.
How is laying it to Fred a better chance??
Rashford is past the keeper with an open net in front of him, yes the angle is tight but he's a striker playing for United ffs.
The pass back inside to Fred (who's not exactly clinical) and he's got 4 defenders around him plus another back on the line?
It's cowardly from Rashford. He should be hitting the back of the net.
He's been woeful this season.
For me he was the main reason we didn't win today and that says it all.
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