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If he was on a 5 year deal and multiple clubs decided he was their first choice maybe.We should get at least 30 million for him
Yeah, I think 20m is likely us trying to ensure we get 12m.£20m would be a good deal for us considering he's got one year left on his contract and is 30 years old.
But I think he's going to leave for around £15m and the quicker the likes of Fred and McTominay are moved on the better.
Agreed. Love Fred’s attitude and spirit. I’d rather keep him, think he’s a great squad option.I guess i'd sell him for 20. I think rather keep him than sell for less. It makes sense but i think i'll miss him, which i dont expect to say about many other possible departures.
It's actually mental when you look at it that way.Rubbish player. Emblematic of our decline post-Fergie.
In 2018, at the point he signed, he was the 2nd most expensive midfielder in the world. Pogba was 1st. Between them, they were peak Woodward projects in his concept of how to build a squad.
I like his attitude, but will breathe a sigh of relief when he's no longer coming onto the pitch in a United shirt. I'd take £5m to £10m to be honest.
Bite their hands off at 20m.
In a way I'd be sad to see him go. But £20m for such a limited player the wrong side of 30 would be a decent deal.
That's so depressing, and there are United fans who will still tell you he was "good buy".Rubbish player. Emblematic of our decline post-Fergie.
In 2018, at the point he signed, he was the 2nd most expensive midfielder in the world. Pogba was 1st. Between them, they were peak Woodward projects in his concept of how to build a squad.
I like his attitude, but will breathe a sigh of relief when he's no longer coming onto the pitch in a United shirt. I'd take £5m to £10m to be honest.
He played more than Bruno?Im pretty sure Fred played more than any of our midfielders last season. So he is first choice and one of the key reasons we came third and got a cup. Plus he is a Brazil international that played in the World cup. Yet he gets 0 respect.
Fred started 12 league games and was a sub in 23 league games. He played total of 1235 mins, just 80 mins more than McTominay and McTominay was out with injury for many games.Im pretty sure Fred played more than any of our midfielders last season. So he is first choice and one of the key reasons we came third and got a cup. Plus he is a Brazil international that played in the World cup. Yet he gets 0 respect.
Agree with you sentiments but these high energy midfielders you never know how they handle their 30's, look at kante. It's time to cash in.He’s been a decent player for us and despite not reaching the level required I don’t think he’s as bad as some people make out. I don’t feel he deserves the name-calling or some of the derogatory insults thrown in his direction.
He’d certainly be some way down the list of players I’d want to leave this summer if we were basing it on contribution to the team. However, he is 30, he is clearly not seen as a key player by Ten Hag for the short or long term and therefore with just a year to go on his contract it makes sense to part ways to recover some funds. It will actually be refreshing to see United do this rather than just let it play out as usual.
He does need replacing with a proper player for us not to be weakened by his departure though. Which, again, is more than you can say for some of the other players on our books.
Edit: when I was doing my transfer muppet pen and paper workings of Ins and Outs for this summer (because I’m sad), I had Fred down as £15m so hopefully not far off. I did have at least 10 other players going before him though.
Depends how you look at it I suppose. Involved in 35 league games. More than any other midfielder. Top 3/4 in the whole team for involvements. As a back up player that's doing your job. As a first teamer no. But no one argues he's first choice.Fred started 12 league games and was a sub in 23 league games. He played total of 1235 mins, just 80 mins more than McTominay and McTominay was out with injury for many games.
He is 15th in total mins, just 80 mins more than 16th. Players below him in mins.
16. McTominay - 1151 mins - He was injured for many games
17. Martial - 980 - Injured almost all season
18. Weghorst - 797 - Jan loan signing
20 Sabitzer - 628 - Jan loan signing and then was injured
21. Garnacho - 563 - Started to play games from November and then he was injured for couple of months.
22. Ronaldo - 520 - Left in November
So in a way you can conclude Fred is the least trusted player by EtH.
Im pretty sure Fred played more than any of our midfielders last season. So he is first choice and one of the key reasons we came third and got a cup. Plus he is a Brazil international that played in the World cup. Yet he gets 0 respect.
Respect mate.Depends how you look at it I suppose. Involved in 35 league games. More than any other midfielder. Top 3/4 in the whole team for involvements. As a back up player that's doing your job. As a first teamer no. But no one argues he's first choice.
First choice back up to Eriksen. My bad for bad explanation.Respect mate.
Yes, as a back up player he did well and one of the main attribute you need for a back up player is availability and he was always available. Also did decent enough job.Depends how you look at it I suppose. Involved in 35 league games. More than any other midfielder. Top 3/4 in the whole team for involvements. As a back up player that's doing your job. As a first teamer no. But no one argues he's first choice.
No worries mate.First choice back up to Eriksen. My bad for bad explanation.
So was Kleberson, and he actually won it.Im pretty sure Fred played more than any of our midfielders last season. So he is first choice and one of the key reasons we came third and got a cup. Plus he is a Brazil international that played in the World cup. Yet he gets 0 respect.
Don't forget his apologies after skying first time shots with his right foot.The king of unforced passing errors and subsequent apologies.
Mounts a lot younger, a better player and is more of an attacking midfielder though.20 million seems like a bargain in the current market for a midfielder with plenty of experience in the PL and in European competition.
No doubt we will end up selling him for a fraction of that and pay something stupid for Mount who plays in exactly the same position and has a similar length of contract left.
Mount is several tiers above Fred. They’re not remotely comparable. Can you imagine Fred winning PoTY for any team in the PL let alone Chelsea?20 million seems like a bargain in the current market for a midfielder with plenty of experience in the PL and in European competition.
No doubt we will end up selling him for a fraction of that and pay something stupid for Mount who plays in exactly the same position and has a similar length of contract left.
Tbh, I’d be reluctant to sell any of our midfielders until we have signed some replacements. Last season’s injury crisis could easily happen again, and Eriksen and Casemiro will both be a year older.We shouldn't be selling a player like Fred. He's been important in our big wins, which have only been a few wins, for the past 3 seasons.
He's strange, someone who's inconsistent but can be trusted to rise to the occasion.
We're not in a position of luxury to be able to horde fringe players in case of several injuries because we're restricted in what we can spend by the mistakes of the past decade and the squad needs major surgery.Tbh, I’d be reluctant to sell any of our midfielders until we have signed some replacements. Last season’s injury crisis could easily happen again, and Eriksen and Casemiro will both be a year older.
Having sufficient depth in midfield is not a luxury when one of our first choice midfielders simply doesn’t have the legs for 90 minutes, and the other is prone to getting suspended for lengthy spells (and is probably going to start declining physically sooner rather than later). Once we bring in another first choice CM who can give us 50+ games a season (which we’re in the process of doing) I’d be happy to trim the squad, but not before then.We're not in a position of luxury to be able to horde fringe players in case of several injuries because we're restricted in what we can spend by the mistakes of the past decade and the squad needs major surgery.
What would you rather have, a 4th choice CM or another season of DDG in goal or Martial as the lone CF?
Fairly certain we will sign Mount + lots of stories that ETH is planning to start easing Mainoo into the first team setup.Having sufficient depth in midfield is not a luxury when one of our first choice midfielders simply doesn’t have the legs for 90 minutes, and the other is prone to getting suspended for lengthy spells (and is probably going to start declining physically sooner rather than later). Once we bring in another first choice CM who can give us 50+ games a season (which we’re in the process of doing) I’d be happy to trim the squad, but not before then.
