I think one of the good things to come from this thread is the evolution of the spoiler policy. We're basically guinea pigs for future tv shows.
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I've been all over those idiots, where have you been? Coming in and stealing my thunderI know you are joking (I think) but I was posting for everyone elses benefit. Cina didn't post anything that spolied anything but other may not be so good at using such material. That was my point.
Although I might thread ban Cina for a laugh
Anyway, GoT wiki is very useful for TV show questions, cause it's all stuff that was in the TV show at some point, but yeah, probably best spoilered.
Just to avoid people thinking it is book info
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You are worse than Hitler
Yes...yes...soon everyone will hate Cina and my plan can come to fruition!
I think the thread title needs to be even more threatening.
I think we need to make sure the TV thread title uses the word "book" more often, and the book thread title uses the word "TV" more often.
Thinking the same because Google Now decided it wanted to hit me with spoilers this morning.
If one was to start reading the books (I don't want to go from the beginning) which would be the one most relevant to the current stage we're at in the show?
Ffs I come into this thread to discuss recent episodes and its just one big game of minesweeper.
Apart from the stuff with Theon - which was a bit shit/poorly done (but then I think his whole storyline has been quite poorly handled) this was a great episode. Obviously the court room drama stuff was great - some of the best stuff this show has produced, but I also really enjoyed the scene with Danerys as it directly addressed something that has been annoying me for ages - in that not all the people she's been ruthlessly killing will be bad people.
But yeah, just the Theon stuff really... which annoyed me in that it didn't make sense. When he was being loud, why didn't they knock him out? Why, when they had Ramsey Snow outnumbered, did they let him grab some keys and start opening a cell door?! It's also hard to fully buy this Stockholm Syndrome/Conditioning thing when all we saw last season was the Physical torture of Theon and not much from the psychological/mental side (him following Ramsay/loving him etc.)
Ultimately though, top work all round... and it's clear now that the quality of an episode fully depends on less Bran and Samwell Tarley, reduced amount of Littlefingers daft accent, and as much Tywin/Tyrion Lannister as possible.
But yeah, just the Theon stuff really... which annoyed me in that it didn't make sense. When he was being loud, why didn't they knock him out? Why, when they had Ramsey Snow outnumbered, did they let him grab some keys and start opening a cell door?! It's also hard to fully buy this Stockholm Syndrome/Conditioning thing when all we saw last season was the Physical torture of Theon and not much from the psychological/mental side (him following Ramsay/loving him etc.)
Ultimately though, top work all round... and it's clear now that the quality of an episode fully depends on less Bran and Samwell Tarley, reduced amount of Littlefingers daft accent, and as much Tywin/Tyrion Lannister as possible.
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Yep, the start to that episode was one of anticipation of something exciting about to enfold and then it was all screwed up. Although, i felt the Reek/Ramsay bath scene saved a bit of the embarrassment to that opening sequence.
Aye, I really disliked that whole attack sequence. They could have just knocked him out and the job was done. Why didn't anyone just throw a weapon at Ramsey? He had no shield, no armour, nothing! It was just so absurd. They instead just stood there like lemons while allowing him to "release the hounds".
It's the only point in the show so far that I've winced and thought "that was terrible story telling!".
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Storm-Swords-Part-Blood-Gold/dp/000744785X
Season 4 begins more or less at the same point as the second volume of Storm of Swords. Though I'd read Storm of Swords from the start because it's brilliant.
Season 4 begins more or less at the same point as the second volume of Storm of Swords. Though I'd read Storm of Swords from the start because it's brilliant.
There are no actual spoilers inside the tags but I thought it'd be safer anyway.
I agree with the others above that the fighting scene to free Theon was really poor. Possibly the low point of the series for me in terms of quality. Ramsey looked very exposed to me, no way he should've left that confrontation alive how it was presented. It seemed like they had ages to do something about him when he was opening the dog cages, but just didn't, for some unexplained reason. In that scene, he was made out to be a comical villain who was invulnerable because he had to survive, not because the situation dictated it. That's always an indicator of very poor writing for me.
I laughed.
Apologies if already covered in last 10 pages, but can anyone explain Trial by Combat to me and why someone accused of a serious crime, with multiple witnesses giving (coerced) evidence against them can just get off by calling on their mate who's handy with a sword?
Maybe I didn't follow the plot carefully enough last time Tyrion was involved in a Trial by Combat, but back then it also seemed like he was able to get away very easily just by having Bronn beat another swordsman.
I know stuff doesn't have to make sense in a world of dragons and magic, but it just seems so lame and a bit of a 'get out of jail free' card.
Maybe I didn't follow the plot carefully enough last time Tyrion was involved in a Trial by Combat, but back then it also seemed like he was able to get away very easily just by having Bronn beat another swordsman.
I know stuff doesn't have to make sense in a world of dragons and magic, but it just seems so lame and a bit of a 'get out of jail free' card.
I'm assuming that if there's hard evidence of the crime being committed by the defendant then it's a done deal, but if it's circumstantial evidence then they can choose trial by combat. I'm probably wrong but that way makes most sense to me.
Leaving your fate to the gods (or God) make sense, specially in this fantastic world.
After all, it's the highest court.
The Hound would be dead long time ago without this way of justice.
"If God wants you dead, you will die in this fight"
After all, it's the highest court.
The Hound would be dead long time ago without this way of justice.
"If God wants you dead, you will die in this fight"
Good episode I thought, but Poor Theon, he's turned in Ben Stiller's 'simple Jack'. Like others have said, they should of just knocked him out when he started going ape. Besides what was happening at kings landing, I thought Stannis story is building up interesting again when it looked to have hit a stalemate. Ser Davos fighting his corner for him to persuade the Iron bank, and the pirate dude? Was he a pirate?
I love how this show can just draw you away from certain characters storylines for a episode or two and then just reels you back when it wants leaving you thinking about how it relates and affects everything associated within the show.
I love how this show can just draw you away from certain characters storylines for a episode or two and then just reels you back when it wants leaving you thinking about how it relates and affects everything associated within the show.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_by_combat It used to happen in real life it seems. Also watch and listen to Tyrions speech again.
Reading the last 15 or so pages has reignited my hatred for Lynk. What a terrible person.
Sorry Asha's scene was fooking ridiculous!! Storm the castle, kill gaurds left right and centre...ooh scary dog!! Leg it!!!
Its not like they we're diawolfs even
just one or maybe two dogs and she turns back???? it was done very weakly that scene...real half ar$ed scene!!Aside from that, brilliant epsiode!!
Spot on!!
For me the most ridiculous scene / story in the whole show to date..this sums it up in a nutshell really! There are quite a few stories that are failing for me this season... it is becoming very comic book villian esque now...
she's done hardcore, some serious stuff!
there are quite a few pornstars in the show actually, some of the whores in Little fingers brothel are pornstars...
Considering the quality is usually pretty good I gave it a pass, but that whole thing was almost gif worthy, all this build up 'We will get my brother back or we can't be called ironborn!!!' 2 minutes later 'Welp he's dead, back home lads'
Every spoiler must be explained before ? That's a good one IMHO.
when you put it like that it sounds very Benny Hill!!!
Can anyone do up a speeded up gif of the scene?
Then for the few who are justifying the ridiculous scene can actually see how shite it really was!!
Time for Tori Black to get her agent to get her on the show or something.
Or Sasha Grey? She's already worked with HBO as well.
She thought her brother had been captured as a prisoner, hence why she was surprised when the guard said "he's down in the kennels with the other dogs", then she found out that he has been completely broken into being Ramsay's pet and realised that it was a pointless exercise going there and not worth fighting for.
It'll only turn out to be a pointless scene if it isn't relevant in future episodes which it obviously will be. I'm not sure what way it will be relevant, if it will be Reek revealing himself as being a perfectly sane Theon all along and taking revenge on Ramsay which seems the most obvious story arc or it could be a case of them actually realising that having Theon behind enemy lines could work very much in their favour in the future considering they are at war with each other.
That made me laugh for some reason. I imagine that's how Peter Griffin pronounces it.Sorry Asha's scene was fooking ridiculous!! Storm the castle, kill gaurds left right and centre...ooh scary dog!! Leg it!!!
Its not like they we're diawolfs even
Aside from that, brilliant epsiode!!
She did, and she was awful.
That's my guess too. But I dunno, Ramsay did cut Theon's dick off. If there is one way to completely break and destroy a man, I'm guessing that's it!
I'm the last person who should be pointing spelling mistakes anyway!
This is a historical thing too. Trial by combat is basically the "let the Gods(God) decide" sort of system. It's felt that obviously the individual with God(s) on his/her side will prevail no matter what and a pious ruler/regent can't possibly deny that request because then they would be seen to be hiding something.
The last scene with Tyrion was beast.
I've only started watching this about a week ago. Just started season 2 and I can safely say I have been missing out big time. What a show!
Stay out of this thread!
Lucky !