ben_united
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FeddingDickheads ?
i love the smell of page 73 in the morning
In order to make this fair, we really need someone in here other than the Chief who can support Owen Hargreaves, without acting like an utter bellend.
what if he goes the other way - see JSV - and is flogged off after 2 yrs for 6m? and "brilliance" is something that will never be used with regards to his game. yes the free kick was a good one. after that what have you seen to post "brilliance"?owen is a great player, he has just struggled to adapt to the english game, he will though.
i bet you all thought vida and evra were shit in their first year, give him a chance,
this thread has just gone mad hence why i havent bothered sticking up for him before,
there has been glimpses of brilliance this season from him, its just that carrick has been on better form
Nah, couldn't be. fecking stupid post, that.so is hargreaves to blame for scholes (had two or three moments of brilliance he will be back to his usual self soon enough I hope) or anderson's performance today?
it goes hand in hand with the hargreaves bashing posts in this thread.Nah, couldn't be. fecking stupid post, that.
he came on today and changed the game.
O'Shea.
By getting booked as soon as he came on and conceding possession a couple of times?
The ball over the top of Derby defence to Rooney for our goal was from Fletcher I think.
some 'brilliant through the legs tackles at anfield.what if he goes the other way - see JSV - and is flogged off after 2 yrs for 6m? and "brilliance" is something that will never be used with regards to his game. yes the free kick was a good one. after that what have you seen to post "brilliance"?
Really ? Thought it was from the left of our midfield. How did OShea find himself there? Great ball though.O'Shea.
Maybe it wasn't. It makes absolutely no difference whatsoever anyway.Really ? Thought it was from the left of our midfield. How did OShea find himself there? Great ball though.
Carrick played some blinding passes when he came on.
By getting booked as soon as he came on and conceding possession a couple of times?
The ball over the top of Derby defence to Rooney for our goal was from Fletcher I think.
That's the killer here. Why can't people see that both are fantastic footballers who offer a lot to the team. One being good doesn't automatically mean the other has to suck.Carrick played some blinding passes when he came on.
What's with the anti-Carrick agenda. Can't you wank over Hargreaves and admit Carrick can play a bit of football?
Spot onWhen Carrick came on, we had something that we had been lacking for the majority of the second half. Despite losing the ball a few times, Carrick added composure to our team which was essential considering the Derby players were playing as if there was no limit to their stamina.
Carrick must play whenever possible. We are a completely different team without him and there rarely seems to be fluidity in the team when he is absent. Again, he does so much that goes by without any notice and his passing range really has become exceptional. There has never been any doubt about his ability to pull them off but he now seems more confident in his own ability to do so.
He's probably our best centre midfielder right now and he's really surprised me because i'm starting to think he was worth all of what was once perceived to be a ridiculous fee. There were many reasons why we were a much better team last year as opposed to the year before, but i believe that the signing of Michael Carrick was at least as influencial as the return of Giggs and Scholes and also the rise of Vidic and Evra.
That's the killer here. Why can't people see that both are fantastic footballers who offer a lot to the team. One being good doesn't automatically mean the other has to suck.
As soon as Hargreaves demonstrates he's a fantastic footballer I will praise him as such.That's the killer here. Why can't people see that both are fantastic footballers who offer a lot to the team. One being good doesn't automatically mean the other has to suck.
Hate to break this to you...but he did'nt play.This thread's getting boring again, people are talking about football. It needs more porpoises and bollocks. Where's that cnut Plech when you need him. It's epic verse time.
Thought Hargreaves was OK yesterday incidently.
Whoosh!Hate to break this to you...but he did'nt play.
yep, but his second team is UnitedChief you are a bayern fan? feckin hell
I had some great wank yesterday after Bayern lost to Cottbus.yep, but his second team is United
One of his most effective games I thought.Thought Hargreaves was OK yesterday incidently.
But that's second, not second, you understand?yep, but his second team is United
it just shows how desperate some people are, that in order to defend one player they feel the need to wrongly criticize the other at every chance. They blame Carrick for Milan's two goals at Old Trafford (regardless of the make-shift United defence), while at the same time they praise Hargreaves' ablility to keep Kaka quiet in Germany (but of course failing to mention that Kaka set up Milan's two goals to knock bayern out in that game).Carrick played some blinding passes when he came on.
What's with the anti-Carrick agenda. Can't you wank over Hargreaves and admit Carrick can play a bit of football?
Oh please.it just shows how desperate some people are, that in order to defend one player they feel the need to wrongly criticize the other at every chance. They blame Carrick for Milan's two goals at Old Trafford (regardless of the make-shift United defence), while at the same time they praise Hargreaves' ablility to keep Kaka quiet in Germany (but of course failing to mention that Kaka set up Milan's two goals to knock bayern out in that game).
3) Milan ran roughshod over us. The statistics support this. Milan was pressured and hemmed into their end for the vast majority of their game versus Bayern. Bayern squandered several chances to score. Milan punished them on the two clear cut chances they had the entire game.
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I don't know, I'll look around to see if I can find it, but here's the Guardian's match report you can read to get a sense of the game and Hargreaves' performance:Is there anywhere I can download this Bayern vs Milan game?
Good post, spot on.When Carrick came on, we had something that we had been lacking for the majority of the second half. Despite losing the ball a few times, Carrick added composure to our team which was essential considering the Derby players were playing as if there was no limit to their stamina.
Carrick must play whenever possible. We are a completely different team without him and there rarely seems to be fluidity in the team when he is absent. Again, he does so much that goes by without any notice and his passing range really has become exceptional. There has never been any doubt about his ability to pull them off but he now seems more confident in his own ability to do so.
He's probably our best centre midfielder right now and he's really surprised me because i'm starting to think he was worth all of what was once perceived to be a ridiculous fee. There were many reasons why we were a much better team last year as opposed to the year before, but i believe that the signing of Michael Carrick was at least as influencial as the return of Giggs and Scholes and also the rise of Vidic and Evra.
feckin hell of course he was'nt bad on Saturday but you people talking about how he changed the game really piss me off. We had much more chances in the first half, without him, should have scored about 2-3 goals, also without him. So in what way did he change the game? He came on against a tired team that gave 110% against us, did an average job, had no shot on target no assist, so to say he changed our game is an overreaction.When Carrick came on, we had something that we had been lacking for the majority of the second half. Despite losing the ball a few times, Carrick added composure to our team which was essential considering the Derby players were playing as if there was no limit to their stamina.
Carrick must play whenever possible. We are a completely different team without him and there rarely seems to be fluidity in the team when he is absent. Again, he does so much that goes by without any notice and his passing range really has become exceptional. There has never been any doubt about his ability to pull them off but he now seems more confident in his own ability to do so.
He's probably our best centre midfielder right now and he's really surprised me because i'm starting to think he was worth all of what was once perceived to be a ridiculous fee. There were many reasons why we were a much better team last year as opposed to the year before, but i believe that the signing of Michael Carrick was at least as influencial as the return of Giggs and Scholes and also the rise of Vidic and Evra.
This thread has lost its passion. It's just not trying hard enough anymore. Or maybe because it's lost its passion it's trying too hard. Or something. I'm not sure. But if it left I wouldn't be too disappointed.This thread's getting boring again, people are talking about football. It needs more porpoises and bollocks. Where's that cnut Plech when you need him. It's epic verse time.
Thought Hargreaves was OK yesterday incidently.