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It really isn't.Thats true but Maguire + linelof is too slow, Smalling will get played and then it becomes pointless.
It really isn't.Thats true but Maguire + linelof is too slow, Smalling will get played and then it becomes pointless.
Thats true but Maguire + linelof is too slow, Smalling will get played and then it becomes pointless.
Maybe they are asking money they know nobody will pay as they are puropsefully pricing him out of the market, as the desperately want to keep him to build on last season and as they may feel they have the quality to qualify for Europe.The current record for a much better defender is £70m + 5m in add ons. This would beat that record by fifteen feckin million. Don't get me wrong, Leicester are right to demand whatever they want but they're asking for figures nobody will pay and seems they will not negotiate that guaranteed figure. Even City walked away.
Maybe they are asking money they know nobody will pay as they are puropsefully pricing him out of the market, as the desperately want to keep him to build on last season and as they may feel they have the quality to qualify for Europe.
Maybe they are asking money they know nobody will pay as they are puropsefully pricing him out of the market, as the desperately want to keep him to build on last season and as they may feel they have the quality to qualify for Europe.
Pace is over rated. They both aren't exactly slow either, Lindelof is more than quick enough and Maguire is fast enough in a straight line, just a bit slow to turn.Thats true but Maguire + linelof is too slow, Smalling will get played and then it becomes pointless.
Pique was faster than maguire or lineolf, puyol was quick at turning. They also played possession based football and didnt get attacked a lot.Pace is over rated. They both aren't exactly slow either, Lindelof is more than quick enough and Maguire is fast enough in a straight line, just a bit slow to turn.
Plenty of CB partnerships aren't exactly flying machines anyway. Pique / Puyol played one of the highest lines going and they weren't exactly sprinters.
Oh, I totally agree. I'd go for Diop at West Ham at 70m if that was the caseFair enough but if that means paying 90m for Maguire it's insane.
Pique was faster than maguire or lineolf, puyol was quick at turning. They also played possession based football and didnt get attacked a lot.
You're forgetting Axel. If it's pace we're after, look no further.Pace is over rated. They both aren't exactly slow either, Lindelof is more than quick enough and Maguire is fast enough in a straight line, just a bit slow to turn.
Plenty of CB partnerships aren't exactly flying machines anyway. Pique / Puyol played one of the highest lines going and they weren't exactly sprinters.
Leicester are not going to cave. They don't need the money and he's shown he's not going to down tools. So the only option is us caving to paying £90m. That's an outrageous sum.
Do we so far know exactly how much Leicester is asking for and how much did we offer?
There are way to many contradicting rumors around in this relation
Well we're assuming the partnership will be Lindelof/Maguire.You're forgetting Axel. If it's pace we're after, look no further.
Bailly is sicknote model 2 and he looks like he's trying to kill someone, never mind tackle. fecking useless! Oh he's out until 2020 anywayWell we're assuming the partnership will be Lindelof/Maguire.
Obviously Tuanzebe, Smalling and Bailly are both lightening quick, so if we're playing against a particularly fast CF then we will be fine.
Go for Umtiti or other CB throw a 100M on Varane, otherwise we end up panick-buying Ake or worse stay with Jones to partner up with Lindelof.
Exactly, I don't think Smalling and Maguire is a good partnership either. Spending £80m on a lindelof replacement is excessive.
This surely will go through eventually but if it doesn't who do you think will be our Plan B? Issa Diop, Milenkovic or perhaps Ake?
This is exactly what they are trying to do, but if It's true that Maguire is pushing for a move it could be a different matter. They still won't let him go for any less than 80million which Woodward don't want to pay. This saga will go on until into next week and maybe last day. Hope we have an alternative lined up.Maybe they are asking money they know nobody will pay as they are puropsefully pricing him out of the market, as the desperately want to keep him to build on last season and as they may feel they have the quality to qualify for Europe.
Play Axel more and use the remaining money to buy an actual quality DMC to provide cover for the defence and buy a better LB than Shaw. there are other ways to improve our overall defensive capabilities as a team. 2 quality FB's, a quality DMC, quality GK and 2 good CB's is a good defenceI disagree, but I take your point... so which CB out there do you think we should be in for that would be a more reasonable cost ?
It's all so fragile though, isn't it?
One dodgy season and all the top players want to leave, or one incredible season and all the big clubs come and take all your best players.
Football has seen tons of cases like Leicester, and whilst you should undoubtedly enjoy it, it seems a little daft coming to a Man United forum to give it big guns as, whether you like it or not, we will always be above you in the food chain, and will inevitably always be more successful than you no matter how "ambitious" your owners are.
Don't forget, in this case, your player wants to leave. It just seems to have been sidetracked by the fact Unted are in talks to sign one of Europe's best attackers, whilst Leicester wait to see if they need to bid for Lewis Dunk or not.
If this Leicester team is very successful, it will get broken up. If it is incredibly unsuccessful, it will get broken up. The only hope you have of keeping this incredibly "ambitious" team together is if Shankley reincarnated himself leads you to utter mediocrity, as to prevent interest in your players.
Something to mull over before your next post informing us of how great your are and how you're coming to get all the big boys.
United have been crying out for a solid experienced CB since Rio and Vidic left, and you think the answer is to just play Axel more? I’m sorry I couldn’t disagree more. Every great team needs a solid spine and CB is one of those positions where we lack a leader.Play Axel more and use the remaining money to buy an actual quality DMC to provide cover for the defence and buy a better LB than Shaw. there are other ways to improve our overall defensive capabilities as a team. 2 quality FB's, a quality DMC, quality GK and 2 good CB's is a good defence
Plan B would be Dybala and Bruno in, with Pogba staying and NO defender coming, with perhaps another attempt on Lonstaff as well.
With funds limited and several positions in need of improvement, we may just spend elsewhere this window
Football is very fragile, it wasn't long ago you were the best team in your own city capable of signing who you wanted when you wanted. You are now buying championship wingers, looking over your shoulders at who might take your Europa place, rather than looking at the title Man City keep winning and struggling to get a player from little old Leicester.It's all so fragile though, isn't it?
One dodgy season and all the top players want to leave, or one incredible season and all the big clubs come and take all your best players.
Football has seen tons of cases like Leicester, and whilst you should undoubtedly enjoy it, it seems a little daft coming to a Man United forum to give it big guns as, whether you like it or not, we will always be above you in the food chain, and will inevitably always be more successful than you no matter how "ambitious" your owners are.
Don't forget, in this case, your player wants to leave. It just seems to have been sidetracked by the fact Unted are in talks to sign one of Europe's best attackers, whilst Leicester wait to see if they need to bid for Lewis Dunk or not.
If this Leicester team is very successful, it will get broken up. If it is incredibly unsuccessful, it will get broken up. The only hope you have of keeping this incredibly "ambitious" team together is if Shankley reincarnated himself leads you to utter mediocrity, as to prevent interest in your players.
Something to mull over before your next post informing us of how great your are and how you're coming to get all the big boys.
United's worst case situation is Leicester's best. Best thing Maguire can achieve with Leicester is the exact situation United are currently tying to elevate themselves from.Football is very fragile, it wasn't long ago you were the best team in your own city capable of signing who you wanted when you wanted. You are now buying championship wingers, looking over your shoulders at who might take your Europa place, rather than looking at the title Man City keep winning and struggling to get a player from little old Leicester.
So what do you suggest, that we don't bother trying? Cancel the new training ground and ground expansion lads, Jimmy Bond says we'll never get anywhere. Everyone is well aware that we will lose players, but what we can control when people are under long contracts is when and for how much. So if you would kindly pony up £90m, Maguire can skip win his merry way with all of our blessings and we shall all chuckle when your manager gets the tin tack trying to play a high line with someone who looks like they are running through treacle.
It will be a massive shame. Exactly the kind of character/leader were missing.I find it very hard to believe that Leicester won’t agree to a deal of around 80 million.
My feeling is that we have offered significantly less than that and Leicester quite rightly aren’t budging.
It’ll be a shame if this falls through. He’s a lot better than everyone thinks.
I just hope we sign any CB, I wouldn't feel comfortable going into next season with our current options.Oh, I totally agree. I'd go for Diop at West Ham at 70m if that was the case
Yep. We need a centre back more than anything else.I just hope we sign any CB, I wouldn't feel comfortable going into next season with our current options.
A lesser player - Id rather pay 20m and get our primary target.Oh, I totally agree. I'd go for Diop at West Ham at 70m if that was the case
And the last time you won the league and got into the champions league quarters was? You are going backwards, consistently so very sure that the status quo will stay just that. Much more mismanagement from the top of your club and I think that tune will be changing.United's worst case situation is Leicester's best. Best thing Maguire can achieve with Leicester is the exact situation United are currently tying to elevate themselves from..
Maybe Ole will get the sack. Maybe then the next manager will decide he wants Maddison or Ndidi, both of whom will undoubtedly rather play for a struggling United side (languishing in 6th) rather than a successful Leicester side (flying high in 7th).
Like everyone else, I grew very fond of Leicester during the year you won the league and of course with what they went through with the owner dying. However, some of the nonsense you post and the attitude behind it makes it difficult to retain such fondness.
I'm sure our billionaire owner will cry tears of sadness at the thought.I personally think Leicester will regret it more than United in the long run, as when Maguire does eventually leave, it wont be for the figures mentioned this summer. I still suspect it will happen, and I suspect it will be for less than £90m.