I always thought that the Indian hair came from women shaving their heads in temple rituals and the hair is then sold on by temple authorities.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Indian women don't sell their hair through financial compulsion, do they?
Has political correctness actually gone mad?
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Correct me if I'm wrong but Indian women don't sell their hair through financial compulsion, do they?
What does that mean?
Massively. What you're talking about is a tiny part of the subcontinent of India.
India is big, which means that when there's poor people, there's lots of poor people. Have you seen the length of the strands of the wig hair? That's a one shot. You don't sell that hair twice. Selling hair is a last resort. Actually, it's not the last, just one on a slippery slope.
And even if it was "Indian hair came from women shaving their heads in temple rituals and the hair is then sold on by temple authorities" , that's a social structure selling the body parts of their congregation. Isn't that a bit of a fecked up trade?
It means to have the brains of a donkey, or a donkey-type creature, you fool.
100%. I was just assuming that they never get monetary compensation for the hair which I agree is fecked.
people reproducing aboriginal art for mass production here in Australia
thus stealing a revenue stream for the aboriginal artists here
there are loads of other genuine examples of course, if you care to do some research
lets not pretend that just because some people use CA for point-scoring on Twitter that it isn't a genuine issue (I do think a lot of the stuff we see online is basically horse-shit)
Huh? People only pretend to be black/mixed race online? That doesn't make any sense. Just because you watch things on the TV news doesn't mean the events that you watch only occur on TV.
It is cultural appropriation but it is only damaging when the dominate culture appropriates from the minority culture. Much the same as someone calling me (living in a predominantly white country) whitey might be insulting or upsetting but doesn't disempower me in the way me disparaging an indigenous person would based on their skin colour, so it isn't of sufficient concern to worry about.
The whole “real people don’t talk about this stuff” thing is the most troubling aspect of these kinds of discourses IMO. Who are the ‘real’ people in this scenario? What is ‘real’ life, exactly?… and according to who?
Real like minded and affluent people I assume
And real life presumably means "my life".
I think it comes down to it being quite unusual for many to give much thought to this. Of course, I don’t have numbers though!
I didn’t quite mean it literally. Seems to me that the majority of discussion on this is internet based. Maybe not surprising given the ease of that form of communication.
That isn't what you said though. You said it only existed on the internet implying that it didn't really exist.
Correct - but as I said I didn’t mean it quite literally. It’s certainly a concept that exists predominantly online, or atleast the discussion of it does.
It’s quite hard to find any sort of statistics on public feeling on this. I’d be interested to see opinion polls of the black community. So far it seems to be mainly a discussion in fashion based articles.
https://www.glamourmagazine.co.uk/article/blackfishing-jessica-krug
I think that’s mainly down to us interacting online with a much more diverse group of people than we do in “real life”. The sort of opinions you think are “online only” are expressed all the time offline as well but you wouldn’t get exposed to them.
This also explains why the internet is a fecking war zone. Different tribes, with different opinions and values, all crushed together in a constant bickerfest. Probably for the best it’s almost always online only. If all the arguing and petty point scoring happened in front of us while we were walking to work, or sitting in a pub, life would be pretty fecking stressful.
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Not to mention we are predisposed to be drawn to and associate with people whose opinions broadly align with our own. The only places we come into contact with people of differing beliefs and opinions are extended family, workplace and the internet.
Sadly Jessy Nelson has got other issues. Surely in most cases it more to do with appreciation? It's cooler to be black than say wanting to be a Alan Partridge unless you're Richard Madley that is. Or Finnish. Hmmmm...and where does 'Jafaking' and generally young white kids from East London sounding more like their parents were children of West Indian immigrants, sit in all this?
How are people whinging over gay Robin boy wonder. He's the gayest superhero of all time.
Yeh, I think the internet has made me feel like we are all more divided than ever, when maybe that isn’t quite the case...or atleast hopefully not!
Ive only seen the superman bi story...I have no idea why people are complaining about this in a cartoon where a man can actually fly. Is it that surprising he could fly and be bi?
And you've learnt racism exists. The net is amazing.
The phrase predates the internet, and it's been a topic for decades at this point. But I guess dismissing it as people being "born bossy" and pretending like it isn't a thing is easier than listening and trying to understand.
I wish I could say I'm surprised, but I know by now that this forum has a contingent of posters who have no interest in evolving as human beings and will readily dismiss any minority perspective on any topic, lest they'd be forced to reckon with their own ignorance, biases or problematic behaviours.
In my ignorance, I'd have assumed that determining the clothing, hairstyles, makeup etc that everyone is allowed to use based purely on whether they're the correct race or not and proclaiming moral superiority over everyone who disagrees with you would make you, y'know, a fascist - but it turns out it actually makes you an 'evolved human being'. Who knew?
I've got a lot to learn, clearly.
And you've perfectly illustrated my point, good job.In my ignorance, I'd have assumed that determining the clothing, hairstyles, makeup etc that everyone is allowed to use based purely on whether they're the correct race or not and proclaiming moral superiority over everyone who disagrees with you would make you, y'know, a fascist - but it turns out it actually makes you an 'evolved human being'. Who knew?
I've got a lot to learn, clearly.
Ah, alrighty. So I've actually got to double down on the moral superiority and condescension before I can truly evolve?
I'll just follow your lead and I'm sure I'll be like a pokemon with too many letters in its name in no time.
And wouldn't the world have been a better place for it. It was cringeworthy then so imagine now?Imagine how fast David Beckham would have been cancelled today. Sarongs and corn rows
FFS - if you are serious I think you must live under a rock.
You have a very roundabout way of saying that you've not put an ounce of effort into understanding the issue. villain's given a black woman's perspective on it, and if you'd actually taken the time to read and understand it, you'd know that it's not about "determining the clothing, hairstyles, makeup etc that everyone is allowed to use based purely on whether they're the correct race or not".
Instead you came in here and immediately dismissed it as drama and moralising "because some girl got braids and a tan".
I have a tan however skin color, hairstyles etc don't belong to anyone. Unless someone is mocking your culture while trying to look like you, I don't see the problem. If Henry Caville wants to be more brown like me, it's his wish. I can't think of why I'd bring British rule/colonial crimes into the picture.
I do think that political correctness wasn't as derogatory a term as it is now though? In The Netherlands "deugen", which loosely translates to being virtuous is now used as an insult in a similar way to being "pc".
Edit: wait I'm actually not sure if you were talking about the term political correctness anymore. Oh well.
Im gonna be so pale after this winter. No summer sun for me this year!
You need to evolve, apparently.
If you think I'm "not evolving as a human being" because I don't agree with dictating what other people can and can't wear, based on their skin colour, as they go about their law-abiding lives, then it sounds like your idea of personal evolution leaves a fair bit to be desired. As for "readily dismissing any minority perspective on any topic", that's an accusation you appear to have just plucked out of the air to support your wafer thin argument. The problem with the internet is that too many people on it, like yourself, are angry, and they feel they actually have a right to be abusive and insulting to people they decide to disagree with. Some will choose to bully people for their choice of clothing, others feel entitled to abuse a player they don't like or slander someone on a forum because they have differing opinions . It's not a minority vs non-minority thing. People with "problematic behaviour", as you put it, come in all colours, shapes and sizes. If you are choosing to overlook, or even enable, such behaviour because of someone's skin colour, gender or anything else, you are part of the problem. I will continue to judge people by their actions and intentions rather than by anything else.
You came in here, ignored the minority perspectives on the topic, then shat out this.
And you've just now repeated that same shite.
One comment on one topic and you decide that I "readily dismiss minority opinions on any topic"? I dismiss opinions from people based solely on whether or not the opinions hold up to any scrutiny, regardless of who voiced them. As everyone should do. Don't be pretending to stick up for minorities here. You just seem to enjoy being a bully and are probably happy for any excuse to act like one from the safety of your keyboard. You are the type of person that perpetuates online hatred, by assuming intent with zero evidence, then dishing out abuse based on your flimsy assumptions.
So perfect, inject this shit right into my veins.
Pot kettle black and all that.
You'll notice that my second paragraph was more general, but I'll accept that I could have formulated it differently.
Speaking of assumptions, though, you rocked up with the erroneous assumption that "cultural appropriation" is some new internet term, and said it was people being born bossy trying to dictate how people can look and what they can wear. That's both ignorant, and shows that you've done nothing to try and understand the issue. Just a quick scan of the discussion that took place before you posted would have let you know that it's a complex issue that's got very little to do with bossing anyone around or dictating anything.
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