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Thought he was solid yesterday. As long as he can stay fit he will be great for us. But that's a lot to ask at United.
I'd assume Rojo moves out there and Evans/Smalling comes in.
I can only assume that you don't watch us play at all if you think that. He is one of the fastest players in the team.
Also the weight thing again!
Am I wrong in missing Evra? Shaw may be better defensively, but Evra carried an attack twice as well. Shaw is still young and learning though.
Came in to say exactly that, he was very good as usual but the sending off was a silly challenge. Just needs to be a bit more decisive with his crosses
I thought he was our best player too. For a 19 year old his defending and positioning is absolutley fantastic.
He also brings the ability to put a tackle on a player.....something we have missed since Wes Brown leaving
He also brings the ability to put a tackle on a player.....something we have missed since Wes Brown leaving
I loved the part when he was on the left touchline, and he had like 2/3 crunching tackles in a row and came out with the ball. Proper little battler we need more fight in team like him.
Ya that was brilliant! Like others have said he was our best outfield player today. Deserved the red but I won't hold that against him.
Don't think that does it justice. Evra was such a liability last season. Sure, he is better going forward than Shaw is but i'd much rather Shaw's solid defensive work.
Stupid second tackle, but was a lazy tired one, he was doing doggies up and down and had just been on a tiring run and gave up. Silly really as he'll miss the games now. Again good defensively poor going forward again for me.
Cant believe he was one of the top dribblers last year for saints, and literally looks completely afraid to do anything at Utd. Potentially tactics and the move to bigger club bigger pressure etc etc but some natural flair you would have thought.
Cant believe he was one of the top dribblers last year for saints, and literally looks completely afraid to do anything at Utd. Potentially tactics and the move to bigger club bigger pressure etc etc but some natural flair you would have thought.
I don't think the second booking was a stupid tackle, as such. I'm not sure it was a tackle at all - I think he was trying to cut the ball out before it even got to the West Ham player in order to launch a final attack. He just mistimed the interception and clipped the player's trailing leg.
As said, no real concerns over it and I actually think it was the right thing to try. Shame he mistimed but it was a last ditch thing to try and win the game.
I forget he's still so young, he's so composed on the ball. His attacking needs to improve but he's hardly got a great deal of quality around him to learn from out wide at the moment. I love how much ground he covers to make saving interceptions and blocks when it's seemingly a lost cause.
As said, no real concerns over it and I actually think it was the right thing to try. Shame he mistimed but it was a last ditch thing to try and win the game.
I forget he's still so young, he's so composed on the ball. His attacking needs to improve but he's hardly got a great deal of quality around him to learn from out wide at the moment. I love how much ground he covers to make saving interceptions and blocks when it's seemingly a lost cause.
Still can't get over Shaw having "a lack of pace" haja funniest thing I've seen all night.
You get these from time to time. Shaw lacks pace,Smalling bring poor in the air and lacking pace etc. It is quite funny.
He really is fantastic, especially for a 19 year old. One of the most composed 19 year olds I've seen.
Hopefully the club actually progresses him properly now because he clearly has it in him to be one of the best LBs in the world.
Hopefully the club actually progresses him properly now because he clearly has it in him to be one of the best LBs in the world.
Good player
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You probably shouldn't look at pictures of him walking around in his "normal" clothes, then.
If he improves his crossing half as much as Gary Neville did in his time here he will be a great player.
That's what I think it'll be and the philosophy means it will be Evans.
I've said it before, I'll say it again... Shaw is just ridiculously solid for a player of his age, he's one of the few player's in this squad I feel completely comfortable with.
Even last season Evra's performances were far superior to what we've seen from Shaw so far. Evra got a few goals, some assists, started moves on a regular basis as well as the defensive errors. Shaw has spells of looking superior defensively then he'll make a stupid error like gifting Everton a penalty, being at fault for Everton's goal and West Brom's first. To match Evra's contribution, Shaw either has to be error-free or vastly improve his quality in the final third.
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Yep, I think it will be Evans...unfortunately.
Yeah, I'm sick of the anal obsession with one right footer and one left footer.
He's the best defender at the club and he's 19. His physicality and maturity for his age is madness, to be honest.
Evans is naturally right footed though
He's pretty two footed and has been use4d as the LCB before.
Very, very good player and the best defender at the club.
Yes I think you're wrong. Conceding our left side whenever Evra's matched against a moderately fast winger was one of the most frustrating things about our team in his later years.
Shaw was very dangerous on the attack anyway.
Wish we had a Shaw for RB.
It's only a one match ban so he will just miss the Burnley game at home tomorrow. We should easily beat them without him. With Young playing last night I'd imagine Rojo will be playing LB.
You've got to remember he's only 19! He's already one of the best LB in the league, he's outstanding defensively and with time his attacking will improve too. I honestly think he's become the best B in the world.
Evra was defensively gone his last seasons here. Aaron Lennon is probably still a Premier League winger because of him, the only left back that made him look like a world beater. Evra was one of my favorite players here, (If anyone is interested in what I'm wearing, I'm actually donning an Evra shirt right now) but Shaw is such an upgrade on the defensive side of the position. Have patience on his attacking side, he's still only a teenager.
The youngster most likely to become a top player from our squad. He also seems very passionate and determined, I'm really happy with him.
his red card has really irked me
in the opening minute Song is let-off a blatant yellow card but he doesnt let shaw off for an equally blatant yellow in the last minute
clearly clattenburg sees that song has the whole 90 mins to get through and so he doesnt want to potentially affect the game so early on but surely the same logic applies to shaw, his tackle was in the last minute so sending him off couldn't have made any real difference to the outcome. also song hadn't been booked already so would still be able to play but shaw who had been booked and was clearly making a tired attempt at a tackle and yet he's sent to the stands. its bollocks double standards shaped entirely by the time of day and not by any means aligned to the laws of the game
i'm not saying it's not the correct decision and i know you see this sort of thing all the time (there's also no doubt my dislike of clatteknob is clouding my judegement) but seriously why let off one player and not another? no one would of minded had he let shaw off for that.
just needed to vent that.
cheers for listening
in the opening minute Song is let-off a blatant yellow card but he doesnt let shaw off for an equally blatant yellow in the last minute
clearly clattenburg sees that song has the whole 90 mins to get through and so he doesnt want to potentially affect the game so early on but surely the same logic applies to shaw, his tackle was in the last minute so sending him off couldn't have made any real difference to the outcome. also song hadn't been booked already so would still be able to play but shaw who had been booked and was clearly making a tired attempt at a tackle and yet he's sent to the stands. its bollocks double standards shaped entirely by the time of day and not by any means aligned to the laws of the game
i'm not saying it's not the correct decision and i know you see this sort of thing all the time (there's also no doubt my dislike of clatteknob is clouding my judegement) but seriously why let off one player and not another? no one would of minded had he let shaw off for that.
just needed to vent that.
cheers for listening
I think Shaw not looking that great in attack is largely down to our tactics as we just don't seem to be using our fullbacks on the overlap like we used to.
I agree, and I also agree that Clattenburg is a massive cnut who is buying into his own hype.
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I like him but he is awful going forward. We've really missed evras link up play at left back. Hit one good cross today but far too often he just turns back in and we lose it.
Evra was great, but not sure how he would cope without a winger in front of him. Di Maria seems to sometimes ignore Shaw when he makes good runs. His link up play does need to improve though.
Yep he really really needs to step up his offensive duties. I feel going from Paddy and Rafael to Shaw and Valencia is really affecting our attacking play because their first instinct is always to stop in their tracks and cut the ball back.
He is so much faster than he looks like he's going to be, a bit like Rooney. You could see that PNE RB thinking he was going to burn past Shaw, but Shaw outpaced him in 2nd gear. Very strange.
Seems a bit scared with the ball, but I'm still encouraged by his past few performances (even with the red card). Once he settles and maybe once he has a more permanent partner out on the left I think he's going to be genuinely excellent for us.
Seems a bit scared with the ball, but I'm still encouraged by his past few performances (even with the red card). Once he settles and maybe once he has a more permanent partner out on the left I think he's going to be genuinely excellent for us.
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