My point about 4 goals stands though
LVG Out Thread | BBC: Sacked!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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He sure knows how to buy time, talking about Man Utd's response against Chelsea and his aspirations to lead the team to the title. But it's all talk.
Nothing in life is guaranteed. But the personnel will only get better IMO. Not that I want to see this "project Giggs" actually being a thing.
How are we led to believe that the board thinks that Chelsea's actions are wrong?
He just said, cos he had just won them the title recently and we're not a hasty club
Ok. So Utd do not think that a manager needs to be fired so fast. But that doesn't mean the board thinks that Mourinho has done no wrong and is an ideal candidate.
In fact it strengthens the argument why board would stick with LvG rather than fire him.
It's getting to the point that whatever he says raises ire in me. Don't know if being unfair but it's just so gratingly empty.
And only a week after admitting he didn't know what else he could do and maybe he should resign.
I think he was asked if he worries that he 'll get fired by the club and as an answer to that he said he "could" resign which is another way of going out.
He never said he "will" resign or he "should" resign.
It probably is unfair but I feel like exactly the same.
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To make top 4, we will need to go on an amazing winning run (not draws, wins).
Right now, we can barely score a goal and our form is that of a relegation team. 2 of the 3 teams in the relegation zone have better form than us right now <<HAVE A READ OF THIS.
So, to think that LVG can somehow get us scoring more than 1 goal a game AND have us winning every game is illogical.
LVG has had his chance - he himself will admit this. And I think if you ask him if DLLLLDDD is sack worthy - he'd be the first to say yes, this manager should be sacked.
I mean, he got rid of Hernadez for missing a penalty.
He benched and got rid of ADM because, although he was our most prolific goal creator last year, he wasn't defending.
Logic would dictate that LVG will be just as ruthless on a manager.
The Sun claiming the players are convinced we are getting Simeone.
After claiming that Mou was already here, LvG had already packed bags and we were getting Sneijder in January in a report 10 days back.
They are mad.
Yes, sitting 5pts from 4th place, with Spurs and Crystal Palace above us, we need an "amazing winning run" of 2 games to get back in the mix. Never before has this club seen such an insurmountable challenge. I just wish this season would end, for we will never knock Crystal Palace, or the mighty Tottenham off of their perches. Why bother even trying?
OK, I read it. We are on a bad run. Mourinho just lost fourteen thousand matches in a row. SAF performed worse than LvG at the beginning. Does it mean he is a bad manager?
No.
Bad runs happen.
It takes time to accomplish things.
You have reached a logical fallacy here. Just because a team is hitting a bad patch doesn't mean they won't come good again. Let's be straight here, LvG is one man who has taken on the project of restoring the biggest club in the world to its glory days. It is a big project, started less than two years ago, and he is following on from the infrastructure which existed before him. Infrastructure which was flawed. He has made good signings, our best performers this season are his signings. His teams in the past played attacking, attractive and effective football. There'
No he didn't. He got rid of Hernandez because he hadn't fit well in the squad for several years, wasn't performing, and he likes to play more possession dominant football. It was a completely reasonable call, which the VAST majority of the caf agreed with before history rewrote itself for the fifteenth time this season.
Did he tell you that down the pub, he did?
Di Maria was gotten rid of because he got pissed for being dropped after utterly his performances turned to complete and utter shit. And he was only dropped because he got sent off and we stumbled on to something that worked.
There's legitimate reason for wanting LVG gone. No need to make up nonsense. Shit post.
What he says to the press has little bearing on how much time the board is going to afford him
Never understand why people compare SAFs start with LVGs..
United of 86 is nowhere near United of 2015. I cant comprehend the logic of it.
United of 86 is nowhere near United of 2015. I cant comprehend the logic of it.
Di Maria was sold because he was crap. And wanted to leave thankfully.
There is no contextual logic, it's just a way to give themselves confidence,
With so many opinions, maybe we could have another poll
Q: Why do you think the board has not sacked LvG yet?
1. Because the board is convinced that LvG is going in the right direction
2. Because the club does not want to be seen as a sacking club
3. Because they haven't been able to find a suitable replacement
4. Because the board doesn't really care as long as the money coming in is good.
Q: Why do you think the board has not sacked LvG yet?
1. Because the board is convinced that LvG is going in the right direction
2. Because the club does not want to be seen as a sacking club
3. Because they haven't been able to find a suitable replacement
4. Because the board doesn't really care as long as the money coming in is good.
We won the PL two seasons back. What does it even mean when you say the bold part? It is not like we were Liverpool when he took us over. We had one really poor season, that's it. He needed to help rebuild a squad, not create a new football club. He has spent a quarter of a billion pounds on purchasing new players, got rid of the players he didn't deem fit and implement his 'philosophy'. Yet all we see is dull and tumescent football. We were in a decent position at the start of the season but many here saw this thing coming. Our style of play of having like 1-2 chances per game was never going to help us continue winning games. What exactly is he achieving?
If you didnt know any better, you'd think that Van Gaal was faced with the herculean task that Sir Alex faced for example. The excuses get even more nonsensical the worse Van Gaal does. Its grasping for straws, and would be quite funny if it wasnt so sad.
Moyes was just here 10 months, and Van Gaal has gotten rid of those players he found. He's found a way to struggle with his own signings.
Its a case of two poor managers unfortunately. One an incompetent overpromoted midtable manager, and another an over the hill philosopher that has failed to grasp the league.
Jesus Christ
Although I do agree that his signings have been good, our best performers this season have been DDG and Mike. So No, his signings haven't come good yet.
One game against Chelsea who have lost half their games changes everything?
What? I'm not a fan of LvG but giving it to a guy who is completely unqualified and would be getting based on nothing but romantic naivety, or worse a power grab, is only gong to drag us further down.
I don't think he's available, geebs. Although, I suppose it's worth making inquiries.
I'd actually agree. 5 years would be over the top but I'd rather see LvG see out his contract with us than give Giggs the job
A few bad results and he'd be crucified.
I don't think he would work for us. While he is the son of God I don't think that's going to be enough to get us back on track alone, would be an absolute miracle if he could get us winning things again.
Ffs
Haha is okay he should be used to it by now
We've scored only 13 goals at home between August and December. That's utterly utterly pathetic. How can anyone still think that LVG is the right man in charge.
Also, LvG is not a long term solution. With short term solutions you would expect much more than with a young talented manager. I fail to understand why its so important to give him time when he is gone next year or before that.
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