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Do you want LVG sacked?


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He sure knows how to buy time, talking about Man Utd's response against Chelsea and his aspirations to lead the team to the title. But it's all talk.
 
Well, you'd hope so...but recent times have shown us that it's far from a guarantee.
Nothing in life is guaranteed. But the personnel will only get better IMO. Not that I want to see this "project Giggs" actually being a thing.
 
Mourinho's available so what has changed? He's gone through a sticky past 6 months but seen as we are led to believe that Ferguson and the board are all about giving managers time, surely they would believe that the sacking by Chelsea was wrong and therefore he should still be a candidate?
How are we led to believe that the board thinks that Chelsea's actions are wrong?
 
He just said, cos he had just won them the title recently and we're not a hasty club
Ok. So Utd do not think that a manager needs to be fired so fast. But that doesn't mean the board thinks that Mourinho has done no wrong and is an ideal candidate.
In fact it strengthens the argument why board would stick with LvG rather than fire him.
 
He sure knows how to buy time, talking about Man Utd's response against Chelsea and his aspirations to lead the team to the title. But it's all talk.

It's getting to the point that whatever he says raises ire in me. Don't know if being unfair but it's just so gratingly empty.
 
And only a week after admitting he didn't know what else he could do and maybe he should resign.
I think he was asked if he worries that he 'll get fired by the club and as an answer to that he said he "could" resign which is another way of going out.
He never said he "will" resign or he "should" resign.
 
Exactly. Since there is no guarantee whatsoever, there is similarly no guarantee that LVG will be outside TOP four this season as we are only halfway through.

To make top 4, we will need to go on an amazing winning run (not draws, wins).
Right now, we can barely score a goal and our form is that of a relegation team. 2 of the 3 teams in the relegation zone have better form than us right now <<HAVE A READ OF THIS.
So, to think that LVG can somehow get us scoring more than 1 goal a game AND have us winning every game is illogical.
LVG has had his chance - he himself will admit this. And I think if you ask him if DLLLLDDD is sack worthy - he'd be the first to say yes, this manager should be sacked.
I mean, he got rid of Hernadez for missing a penalty.
He benched and got rid of ADM because, although he was our most prolific goal creator last year, he wasn't defending.
Logic would dictate that LVG will be just as ruthless on a manager.
 
The Sun claiming the players are convinced we are getting Simeone.
 
The Sun claiming the players are convinced we are getting Simeone.
After claiming that Mou was already here, LvG had already packed bags and we were getting Sneijder in January in a report 10 days back.
 
To make top 4, we will need to go on an amazing winning run (not draws, wins).

Yes, sitting 5pts from 4th place, with Spurs and Crystal Palace above us, we need an "amazing winning run" of 2 games to get back in the mix. Never before has this club seen such an insurmountable challenge. I just wish this season would end, for we will never knock Crystal Palace, or the mighty Tottenham off of their perches. Why bother even trying?

Right now, we can barely score a goal and our form is that of a relegation team. 2 of the 3 teams in the relegation zone have better form than us right now <<HAVE A READ OF THIS.
So, to think that LVG can somehow get us scoring more than 1 goal a game AND have us winning every game is illogical.

OK, I read it. We are on a bad run. Mourinho just lost fourteen thousand matches in a row. SAF performed worse than LvG at the beginning. Does it mean he is a bad manager?

No.

Bad runs happen.

It takes time to accomplish things.

You have reached a logical fallacy here. Just because a team is hitting a bad patch doesn't mean they won't come good again. Let's be straight here, LvG is one man who has taken on the project of restoring the biggest club in the world to its glory days. It is a big project, started less than two years ago, and he is following on from the infrastructure which existed before him. Infrastructure which was flawed. He has made good signings, our best performers this season are his signings. His teams in the past played attacking, attractive and effective football. There'

I mean, he got rid of Hernadez for missing a penalty.

No he didn't. He got rid of Hernandez because he hadn't fit well in the squad for several years, wasn't performing, and he likes to play more possession dominant football. It was a completely reasonable call, which the VAST majority of the caf agreed with before history rewrote itself for the fifteenth time this season.

He benched and got rid of ADM because, although he was our most prolific goal creator last year, he wasn't defending.

Did he tell you that down the pub, he did?
 
He benched and got rid of ADM because, although he was our most prolific goal creator last year, he wasn't defending.

Di Maria was gotten rid of because he got pissed for being dropped after utterly his performances turned to complete and utter shit. And he was only dropped because he got sent off and we stumbled on to something that worked.

There's legitimate reason for wanting LVG gone. No need to make up nonsense. Shit post.
 
He sure knows how to buy time, talking about Man Utd's response against Chelsea and his aspirations to lead the team to the title. But it's all talk.
What he says to the press has little bearing on how much time the board is going to afford him
 
Never understand why people compare SAFs start with LVGs..

United of 86 is nowhere near United of 2015. I cant comprehend the logic of it.
 
Never understand why people compare SAFs start with LVGs..

United of 86 is nowhere near United of 2015. I cant comprehend the logic of it.

There is no contextual logic, it's just a way to give themselves confidence,
 
With so many opinions, maybe we could have another poll

Q: Why do you think the board has not sacked LvG yet?

1. Because the board is convinced that LvG is going in the right direction
2. Because the club does not want to be seen as a sacking club
3. Because they haven't been able to find a suitable replacement
4. Because the board doesn't really care as long as the money coming in is good.
 
Yes, sitting 5pts from 4th place, with Spurs and Crystal Palace above us, we need an "amazing winning run" of 2 games to get back in the mix. Never before has this club seen such an insurmountable challenge. I just wish this season would end, for we will never knock Crystal Palace, or the mighty Tottenham off of their perches. Why bother even trying?



OK, I read it. We are on a bad run. Mourinho just lost fourteen thousand matches in a row. SAF performed worse than LvG at the beginning. Does it mean he is a bad manager?

No.

Bad runs happen.

It takes time to accomplish things.

You have reached a logical fallacy here. Just because a team is hitting a bad patch doesn't mean they won't come good again. Let's be straight here, LvG is one man who has taken on the project of restoring the biggest club in the world to its glory days. It is a big project, started less than two years ago, and he is following on from the infrastructure which existed before him. Infrastructure which was flawed. He has made good signings, our best performers this season are his signings. His teams in the past played attacking, attractive and effective football. There'



No he didn't. He got rid of Hernandez because he hadn't fit well in the squad for several years, wasn't performing, and he likes to play more possession dominant football. It was a completely reasonable call, which the VAST majority of the caf agreed with before history rewrote itself for the fifteenth time this season.



Did he tell you that down the pub, he did?
We won the PL two seasons back. What does it even mean when you say the bold part? It is not like we were Liverpool when he took us over. We had one really poor season, that's it. He needed to help rebuild a squad, not create a new football club. He has spent a quarter of a billion pounds on purchasing new players, got rid of the players he didn't deem fit and implement his 'philosophy'. Yet all we see is dull and tumescent football. We were in a decent position at the start of the season but many here saw this thing coming. Our style of play of having like 1-2 chances per game was never going to help us continue winning games. What exactly is he achieving?
 
We won the PL two seasons back. What does it even mean when you say the bold part? It is not like we were Liverpool when he took us over. We had one really poor season, that's it. He needed to help rebuild a squad, not create a new football club. He has spent a quarter of a billion pounds on purchasing new players, got rid of the players he didn't deem fit and implement his 'philosophy'. Yet all we see is dull and tumescent football. We were in a decent position at the start of the season but many here saw this thing coming. Our style of play of having like 1-2 chances per game was never going to help us continue winning games. What exactly is he achieving?
If you didnt know any better, you'd think that Van Gaal was faced with the herculean task that Sir Alex faced for example. The excuses get even more nonsensical the worse Van Gaal does. Its grasping for straws, and would be quite funny if it wasnt so sad.

Moyes was just here 10 months, and Van Gaal has gotten rid of those players he found. He's found a way to struggle with his own signings.

Its a case of two poor managers unfortunately. One an incompetent overpromoted midtable manager, and another an over the hill *********** that has failed to grasp the league.
 
You have reached a logical fallacy here. Just because a team is hitting a bad patch doesn't mean they won't come good again. Let's be straight here, LvG is one man who has taken on the project of restoring the biggest club in the world to its glory days. It is a big project, started less than two years ago, and he is following on from the infrastructure which existed before him. Infrastructure which was flawed. He has made good signings, our best performers this season are his signings. His teams in the past played attacking, attractive and effective football. There'

Although I do agree that his signings have been good, our best performers this season have been DDG and Mike. So No, his signings haven't come good yet.
 
One game against Chelsea who have lost half their games changes everything?
 
We've scored only 13 goals at home between August and December. That's utterly utterly pathetic. How can anyone still think that LVG is the right man in charge.
 
Never understand why people compare SAFs start with LVGs..

United of 86 is nowhere near United of 2015. I cant comprehend the logic of it.

Also, LvG is not a long term solution. With short term solutions you would expect much more than with a young talented manager. I fail to understand why its so important to give him time when he is gone next year or before that.
 
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