Keane didn't have a nightmare. He was fine for most of the game. But as one would expect going up against Bale, he got bummed a few times. We won't face players of the quality of Bale every week.
Manchester United vs Real Madrid (Pre-season Friendly)
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Who got the assist for our second goal? It's gone down as a goal for Young, so who passed it to Young?
A last resort or a scheme to mess with Van Gaal in a preseason game? Not when your best player's health is at stake. Ronaldo generates huge amounts of revenue for them, some people most likely attended the game just to see him, so instead of throwing him in and saying "Hey give it your all so we can win a meaningless preseason game", I'm sure it was more of a "We'll bring you in to ease you back into it, but don't take too many risks" and that's the way he played too.
He was brilliant as a number 10 against Norwich in the League Cup for one. Most people would view that as one of his best performances for us. Also against Swansea at OT in the league he was excellent. I'm not saying that he hasn't played well as a winger but it's wrong to say his "only" good performances came when playing there and I'm sure most posters on here would agree with me on this.
Beating Real Madrid 3-1 without Benzema, di Maria, James, Kroos, Marcelo and with a more than hampered Ronaldo is a solid result, we played some nice football, I never argued that, but in the end, the result looked better than one might think it was, it's that plain and simple. If you wanna be extremely happy, then so be it, but I wanna see good performances against real competition, not in a meaningless preseason game.
That photoshop from Marca is unbelievable. Embarrassingly desperate.
So do you think hes ahead of kagawa for the number 10 spot? Obviously its matas position for now. Wasn't he also pretty poor in the number 10 spot a couple of times? Don't get me wrong, Januzaj has a lot of potential and I think he could be a good number 10 in the future but hes miles off that for now. hes a decent young player, unproven, could be great but its very early
Nice win.
Still think we need 2 more quality players in defence and midfield to nail on top 4.
It's remarkable how complacent some people are in thinking that we will walk a top 4 spot. We have virtually the same central midfield with just older versions of the players that many people have been complaining about for years.
And our defence, when fit, has none of the players who got us the success that would warrant over confidence of getting a top four.
LVG looks like a superb coach that may very well over achieve with these players but I would prefer to see him get some top quality to improve his chances.
Still think we need 2 more quality players in defence and midfield to nail on top 4.
It's remarkable how complacent some people are in thinking that we will walk a top 4 spot. We have virtually the same central midfield with just older versions of the players that many people have been complaining about for years.
And our defence, when fit, has none of the players who got us the success that would warrant over confidence of getting a top four.
LVG looks like a superb coach that may very well over achieve with these players but I would prefer to see him get some top quality to improve his chances.
Liar!
You were insulting the intelligence of those of us here praising the performance and how LvG had transformed the team as these preseason games showed.
Who on earth have been overstating the win today or the previous games? You were trying to make your negativity known by asking us not to overstate when in fact no one is overstating anything.
You have to be an idiot to regard preseason wins as conclusive of future success. You also went so far as to say the following to insult the rest of us here. If you're not negative, you are an idiot. Take your pick.
He's right @Wade3. Just go with "negative" and call it a day. He gave you a way out.
I think if all players we have play to the level they have played so far for the entire season, top 4 should be nailed. The question to ask is can these players play at this level for a season?
It was a cross field ball from Michael Keane
And the goalie was our third choice mr. Amosso, now the qualifiying part of the tour is over and the only goal we conceded from open play was from 70 yards out
I think we also have Juventus
Indeed. I thought he did ok. He even looked better in the second half. Playing against Bale has added to his experience.
Yeah I did I would imagine and i don't agree with you - esp Keane - he in fact made one mistake - which involved slipping - and even the greatest players do that
Cleverly equally made one mistake trying a 1-2 with Kagawa who wasn't there.. otherwise his passing was crisp and his pressing good
Zaha didn't have the best of games but more positives than negatives. right now he needs match time against good players, which is what he got tonight.
I'm not talking about you here: To both Commentators and commenters on here who thought Utd were much worse at the beginning of the second half - Which of the two teams changed a large number of players at half-time and which one came out with a team fully warmed up & used to conditions? By the last 3rd Utd were well on top again & that's with Ronaldo & Bale
Right you are. Are you watching the MUTV replay as well?It was a cross field ball from Michael Keane
Big gamble to presume fitness and form will be consistent.
Also, is the club not aiming for the title with 4th as a minimum? This squad is not good enough to win the title.
Yeah. I was looking at highlights and none of them showed who played the ball, so I kept a look out when watching MUTV. Great ball aswell from the young lad.Right you are. Are you watching the MUTV replay as well?
8:00 p.m ET in the US...so I guess 1 a.m. in England
I agree with almost all of the player ratings, but DDG 7.4...... 
Have you seen how many times our wing backs became in trouble because of DDG's risky/weak passes?
Have you seen how many times our wing backs became in trouble because of DDG's risky/weak passes?
it second half now 1-0 Pool
Where exactly did I regard preseason wins as conclusive of future success? Right nowhere. I see threads comparing Young to the likes of Robben and Roberto Carlos and how LvG transformed him, see posts of us winning the title and stomping all the lower-bottom teams based on three preseason games, so who is the real idiot here? The scouser comparison was made to show how ridiculous some of these comparisons and conclusions are based on three preseason games. I didn't make those comparisons.
I wanna wait and see whether this team can perform on this level against actual competition, when there is 90 minutes of pressure from the other team and we're actually playing for something. If a wait-and-see approach is your view of negativity, then so be it. In our first BPL game under Moyes against Swansea we didn't look so bad either and then see how dreadful we were for the rest of the year. Now, before you jump to any stupid conclusions, I'm not comparing LVG to Moyes, nor am I saying this will crash and burn, but it shows how small sample sizes don't mean much, especially in preseason.
Based on their respective performances last season I would say Januzaj is ahead of Kagawa, and by some distance at that.
So what if he had a few poor games as a number 10. Ronaldo had poor games for us as a winger starting out too. Everyone will play badly every now and then, especially young players which is why patience is needed. Besides Januzaj also had some poor games as a winger will nullifies your point.
Going off the topic of the match now so I will leave the discussion at this post.
I agree I might have been harsh to say that Keane had a nightmare. However, the United's loss of tempo after Cleverly and Zaha came on was quite clear. May be Cleverly just is not nearly as good as Herrera to do that sort of job.Yeah I did I would imagine and i don't agree with you - esp Keane - he in fact made one mistake - which involved slipping - and even the greatest players do that
Cleverly equally made one mistake trying a 1-2 with Kagawa who wasn't there.. otherwise his passing was crisp and his pressing good
Zaha didn't have the best of games but more positives than negatives. right now he needs match time against good players, which is what he got tonight.
I'm not talking about you here: To both Commentators and commenters on here who thought Utd were much worse at the beginning of the second half - Which of the two teams changed a large number of players at half-time and which one came out with a team fully warmed up & used to conditions? By the last 3rd Utd were well on top again & that's with Ronaldo & Bale
Current capacity is 105,064. I think the record attendance was when it had standing areas as well.
It's funny.. We beat LA Galaxy 7-0 and some people said that they were not a good/proper opponent..
Now we beat Madrid 3-1 and they're saying Madrid was not trying hard.
We just can't win
Now we beat Madrid 3-1 and they're saying Madrid was not trying hard.
We just can't win
Wow very selective use of logic there pal. lets just agree to disagree
Jamie Jackson reports that the game was in Detroit. No wonder he sees a different United from everyone else.
Very encouraging signs, we played some great stuff first half and some of the team are looking like completely different players. It wasn't Real's best side but it was still a strong side and we looked really up for it.
Looking forward to Liverpool in the final.
Looking forward to Liverpool in the final.
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This!!!!
@Wade5... if you prefer to dig deeper and deeper on the ground you are squatting on, it's your choice. Just be aware that you would be falling into the hole you have been digging, and none of us here will give you a hand. Bye.
Here here.. Next Monday when we beat Liverpool, they will say its because they don't have Luis Suárez and they were adjusting time without him, otherwise we would have been slaughtered. Or Brendan Rodgers was deliberately losing to give us false hope....They can come up with anything. You are spot on, we can't win!It's funny.. We beat LA Galaxy 7-0 and some people said that they were not a good/proper opponent..
Now we beat Madrid 3-1 and they're saying Madrid was not trying hard.
We just can't win
Just back from the game. We looked sharp.. Some nice passes... Madrid were aweful... Only seemed to have a chance by playing balls over the top to Bale. Fletch was great.. So composed on the ball playing from deep. If this is just pre season I can't wait to see what the new season brings
LvG "We deserved to win. We are in the right way and we're missing players like (Marouane) Fellaini, (Adnan) Januzaj and (Robin) van Persie."
Really worrying comment from LvG.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-liverpool-30479797.html#sthash.1aHtSnc4.dpuf
Really worrying comment from LvG.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-liverpool-30479797.html#sthash.1aHtSnc4.dpuf
What ever the lineup, it's an impressive win. If real beat us 3 1 alarm bells would be ringing, so what ever Madrid put out we got to admit it's an indication van gaal has got this team thinking they can win games against the big teams. Pen win against inter, Wins over Madrid and Roma is not bad. Do not forget many thought Madrid would beat Us 4 0 to make van gaal wake up we need signings
Don't read in to what he says. The club will be trying to get as much money as possible for Fellaini, acting as if we're desperate to sell him wouldn't help.
LvG isn't stupid, he'll see what glaring weaknesses we have and I'm sure he'll have at least two players in mind.
i've noticed that some people have been getting a little carried away with the pre-season performances & results.
i hope the team carries doing well when the season starts, but we all know the premier league is a lot different than these friendlies.
it was good that so many people were at the game, but i didn't think the atmosphere was especially great. maybe it was the lack of singing or something?
i doubt very much if many americans watching the game became converts to 'soccer' because of it.
however its all a step in the right direction for the club.
i hope the team carries doing well when the season starts, but we all know the premier league is a lot different than these friendlies.
it was good that so many people were at the game, but i didn't think the atmosphere was especially great. maybe it was the lack of singing or something?
i doubt very much if many americans watching the game became converts to 'soccer' because of it.
however its all a step in the right direction for the club.
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