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Lawman

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This is frustrating. I've already said its not about tonight's game. Its about different players being suited to different matches. You've now just changed your point to a prediction about what Jose will do. All along it was about Ibra being our best player so he had to start. Make your fecking mind up
Go back a read all my posts and de frustrate yourself then. My original post was and is after half a friendly there is no way people should be calling for Rashford to start over Zlatan. It's pretty clear go and get fecking glasses before you start throwing shite about what I said and didn't say.
The mistake I have made is trying to explain to you why but feel free to take any my posts out of context to try and prove me wrong.

Let me recap one more time for you then I'm done. Zlatan will and should start the season over Rashford as he was one of the best strikers in the world last season and (past decade for that matter so we have a fair idea of his talent) performing way higher than any one of our players. For anyone to suggest otherwise is absurd based on half a debut in a friendly. Now fast forward a dozen games into the season or say the same thing about Rashford over Rooney then that's not absurd. But after half a friendly it is mental. Throwing shite like me making a prediction on what Jose is going to do is not helpful but is you trying to win an argument that is not up for debate really. Of course he will start the season with Zlatan (barring injury) in the team is that way out there guessing that??
Now read my posts in future before you start accusing me of making my mind up or you will be the first I've ever ignored.
 

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He's really, really exciting. I don't have an issue with Zlatan being the #1 striker for this season though. Rashford will get his chance in the Europa and some cup competitions, as well as sub appearances. Hopefully he continues to improve and can take the #1 spot next season.
 

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How fecking good is this guy? fecking hell. Where are the those clowns who were calling him technically shit?
 

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It's good that we didn't sign any striker for long term. 1 or 2 years playing as rotational player and he can fully develop into top player. Also training with Zlatan should be a big boost for me as many said Zlatan is as professional as they get when it comes to training.
 

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I hope Mourinho treat him like Fergie treat Ronaldo in his first couple season here. Fergie cleverly choose who and when Ronaldo played, managing his matches perfectly so he didn't burnt out and he still got alot of match time to improve. Back then Fergie even manage this by playing David Bellion on right wing. Mourinho got Ibrahimovic to share Rashford load, it should be easier for him
 

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What I don't get it, he didn't seem to be hyped up from the youth. Usually those who watch our reserves will have gone on about our youngsters I.e. Morrison, Pogba, Tranzuable or whatever he's called. I don't ever remember him being talked about. Was he evidently this good in the reserves?
 

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What I don't get it, he didn't seem to be hyped up from the youth. Usually those who watch our reserves will have gone on about our youngsters I.e. Morrison, Pogba, Tranzuable or whatever he's called. I don't ever remember him being talked about. Was he evidently this good in the reserves?
There were a few things about him when he was early teens about how technically good he was, but was very small. He then shot up and got moved up front and took a while to grow into his body and new position but started to show his quality, although still raw the year before last. I think people always had high expectations but for once didn't overhype and let him develop into the new role.
 

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Wouldn't it be great if he out shone everyone this season, but I'm not sure how much game time he'll actually get.
 

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What I don't get it, he didn't seem to be hyped up from the youth. Usually those who watch our reserves will have gone on about our youngsters I.e. Morrison, Pogba, Tranzuable or whatever he's called. I don't ever remember him being talked about. Was he evidently this good in the reserves?
Interesting indeed. I don't remember hearing his name before he was picked by Van Gaal last season. It seems he has developed a lot in every important aspect of the game for a striker. He's grown psychically too. He reminds me a little of Welbeck but with better finishing and close control at speed.
 

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Wouldn't it be great if he out shone everyone this season, but I'm not sure how much game time he'll actually get.
Don't think we'll have to worry about the game time. He's already shown in his 2 cameos what he brings to the team.
 

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I think he is a great prospect but now needs to start bulking up. He is obviously technically good, its the physical aspect he needs to start working on now
 

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Martial. Miki. Marcus
That would end up retiring a number of defenders.
Yeah on the right as an inside forward with Mhki in the hole, all the players being versatile there is an opportunity for interchanging positions with Ibra dropping into the hole, Mhki drifting to the right, Rashford uptop and Martial being left with room to do damage. Add Shaw and the apparently rejuvinated Valencia we'd be in business. All we need is for the centre to hold.
 

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Go back a read all my posts and de frustrate yourself then. My original post was and is after half a friendly there is no way people should be calling for Rashford to start over Zlatan. It's pretty clear go and get fecking glasses before you start throwing shite about what I said and didn't say.
The mistake I have made is trying to explain to you why but feel free to take any my posts out of context to try and prove me wrong.

Let me recap one more time for you then I'm done. Zlatan will and should start the season over Rashford as he was one of the best strikers in the world last season and (past decade for that matter so we have a fair idea of his talent) performing way higher than any one of our players. For anyone to suggest otherwise is absurd based on half a debut in a friendly. Now fast forward a dozen games into the season or say the same thing about Rashford over Rooney then that's not absurd. But after half a friendly it is mental. Throwing shite like me making a prediction on what Jose is going to do is not helpful but is you trying to win an argument that is not up for debate really. Of course he will start the season with Zlatan (barring injury) in the team is that way out there guessing that??
Now read my posts in future before you start accusing me of making my mind up or you will be the first I've ever ignored.
Just stop ffs. I've read your bloody posts. It's been a huge waste of time and wont be something I'll be doing again
 

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Some said that? :eek:
I see a Chicharito Hernandez in his game. Runs his ass off, makes clever runs, and is a pretty damn good finisher. However, he dosen't look like much of a dribbler to me or someone who is that technically gifted and can pick out a fantastic pass. I don't think trying him out-wide would do him any favors. He is a pure striker.

Great game today.
If you say so, but going off of what I've seen at the first team He looked a little bit sloppy trying to go at defenders. We will see what he really is as the games go by...
Against U21's?
Talk to me when he does something like that against 1st team opposition.
Dribbling? He looks so awkward when he is trying to take players on. He can make some smart fakes here and there but I wouldn't consider dribbling one of his fortes.
He needs to come off the field. He is such a waste of space out there on the right.
I second this. It is time to return to reality and send him back down.
 

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I think he is a great prospect but now needs to start bulking up. He is obviously technically good, its the physical aspect he needs to start working on now
Really? I've never noticed him struggle due to physicality. And I don't think we should risk changing his build given that his speed of movement is such an assett. He'll fill out naturally a little anyway.
 

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Is there a system that Mourinho might use to play him + Ibra together? Rashford will probably be cast out wide, which isn't preferred.
 

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Yikes! :nervous:

Someone saying he isn't a technically excellent passer (or at least, hasn't showed it yet), I might understand. But there are very few CF's who have the other qualities he has, and are good passers/playmakers. But that poster also criticized his dribbling! Wow.
 

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Is there a system that Mourinho might use to play him + Ibra together? Rashford will probably be cast out wide, which isn't preferred.
There is that diamond Mou used at Inter and Porto with 2 forwards supported by a no.10. Problem is it's still competition between Martial and Rashford for the forward slot.

@Kevin
Yikes! :nervous:

Someone saying he isn't a technically excellent passer (or at least, hasn't showed it yet), I might understand. But there are very few CF's who have the other qualities he has, and are good passers/playmakers. But that poster also criticized his dribbling! Wow.
He did a great crossing field for Lingard (?) late in the game yesterday, didn't he? He's a striker (can be used as wing forward too), so asking him to up his play making is quite a stretch. His linking up play (more suited for a forward) is very well and seem to be on the improving trend.
 
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How fecking good is this guy? fecking hell. Where are the those clowns who were calling him technically shit?
I forgot about that. :lol: To be fair it was mainly the Chelsea fan who rates Willian, so what do you expect.
 

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Really? I've never noticed him struggle due to physicality. And I don't think we should risk changing his build given that his speed of movement is such an assett. He'll fill out naturally a little anyway.
He hasn't yet, but as his reputation increases and teams become more aware, there will be more markers on him, will always benefit him in the longer run to have a strong physique
 

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Is there a system that Mourinho might use to play him + Ibra together? Rashford will probably be cast out wide, which isn't preferred.
I think its better for him to get 30+ plus appearances as a wing forward than to get less than half of that as a CF because it will take much longer for Mourinho to decide on a formation change/drop a superstar. Him on the wing allows us to flank Ibra with pace and skill which he and Martial bring.
 

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I forgot about that. :lol: To be fair it was mainly the Chelsea fan who rates Willian, so what do you expect.
I wish:

This may be an unpopular opinion but I think he is very poor technically. His dribbling awkward and more hoof and chase, his first touch is too heavy a lot of the time, he seems to trip over himself and lose track of the ball and he always gets the ball tangled in his feet when he does stepovers. Great finisher though
I do agree with this.
Agreed. He is raw and weak with technique and at dribbling.
There's probably lots more in that thread from the resident caf technique experts. That first post belongs in the classics
 

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What I don't get it, he didn't seem to be hyped up from the youth. Usually those who watch our reserves will have gone on about our youngsters I.e. Morrison, Pogba, Tranzuable or whatever he's called. I don't ever remember him being talked about. Was he evidently this good in the reserves?
Because he had barely play for the Reserves before breaking through.Was with the U18s and making odd cameos for the Reserves last season.

He got a very good first pro deal compared to his peers including a new house for his mum which suggested the club held him in high regard
 

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Is there a system that Mourinho might use to play him + Ibra together? Rashford will probably be cast out wide, which isn't preferred.
Two strikers seems to be coming back into fashion. Chelsea will probably be playing two this season in a 424.
 

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I think its better for him to get 30+ plus appearances as a wing forward than to get less than half of that as a CF because it will take much longer for Mourinho to decide on a formation change/drop a superstar. Him on the wing allows us to flank Ibra with pace and skill which he and Martial bring.
Going by how Mourinho spoke about specialists & wanting Bailly to ''delete memories of playing at a RB'', I'd be surprised if he threw a budding number 9 on the right wing.
 

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He hasn't yet, but as his reputation increases and teams become more aware, there will be more markers on him, will always benefit him in the longer run to have a strong physique
If they double mark him then anyone of Martial, Ibra, Mhki or Rooney will put them to the sword. I think players have to approach this bulking up thing carefully because if its done carelessly it could result in the player losing agility and pace.
 

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We have 4 strikers at the club. Of which Rooney is injury prone, past it and plays as a #10, Zlatan is 35 and on the decline and Martial who plays on the left. He may not be a regular starter (which is is not an issue given he's only 18) but he'll get loads of game time up top. I don't see any reason to worry.
 

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He has all the natural talent ,as we saw last term, Jose will help him add the aggression,determination to make him a complete forward.
Last night he was running the channels and causing all sorts of problems for the centrebacks just like one Drogba,all the signs are there
He already has that fearlessness that all top young talents have, and it will be exciting to see how he progresses this season.
If i had to make a bold prediction, ill say 15 PL goals this season for him.
 

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Rashford looks great physically. Can't see any reason why he should put on more weight.
 
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