He’s killing our attack.
10
Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 41
- Goals
- 8
- Assists
- 5
- Yellow cards
- 2
- Red cards
- 1
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Getting rid of him would be the first step in eliminating this utter crap football we've played for years.
He's been like that the whole season, it's just sometimes you get less extreme version of him. There's nothing to suggest he's not following managers instructions to just run at defenders at any opportunity.
I think he's really fragile mentally.
I think he's really fragile mentally.
I thought he was very bright and showed a lot more than Garnacho. Well-taken goal and could have done better with some chances but by no means a bad performance.
He was. Also involved in both of our Goals. But Rashford is scapegoat nr. one nowadays so people only focus on the negative with him.
Sad to see. Think the relationship between him and the fanbase got toxic this season and he feels it. (see today's celebration) Probably best thing for him and us to part ways soon.
Not all our players get paid 300k a week though and he's the one that's built his brand on being some talismanic player with his stupid celebration.
I have no problem with the type of player he is, I object to the fact he thinks he commands the wage he gets and also seems to want to dictate how we play to fit his style. It's shit.
What was his celebrationHis "celebration"!
I'll keep yapping about him frankly.
Literally the gif he posted
He only ’comes alive’ when the ball is in a radius of about a metre from him - where he takes it and either runs into being dispossessed or shoots (usually poorly). He really isn’t very good, lazy and (for all the perils of reading body language) just doesn’t look arsed.
Get rid.
Get rid.
Yes, that one. It's remarkable to me that one can be a highly compensated and highly praised footballer known to millions around the globe and not yet not be able to see the simple layoff to a teammate for the point blank shot. I'm a caftard, like nearly everyone else here, who once played the game but at a level one-one millionth the level Marcus Rashford plays at so who am I to judge him, but if I were coaching a youth team and saw my forward refuse to make that pass I'd bench him the next game. The pass was on, the Garnacho was free and clear and Vicario would have no chance against the easy slot into the corner for the match winner.
Our standards are so low that apparently that was a real shift he put in
He is everything that is wrong with Utd
Has has to work more off the ball and in defence. But he won't.
He was.
But lets be honest, his involvement in the first goal was his trademark run into a pile of bodies to try and get a shot off. It was just lucky the ball bounced kindly for Hojlund.
Second goal was some nice link up play, something he really needs to do more of.
Brave decision? He's our highest paid player and is completely stinking the place up with his performances and attitude.
Bigger players have come and gone. It's time that standards at this club were finally reset.
So many poor decisions or bad control, decent goal still though but other than that poor as usual.
Failing to pass the ball inside in the second half was seriously selfish.
No matter which manager is in charge this lad is going nowhere. You guys are setting yourselves up for disappointment if you expect Ten Hag to be sacked and a new manager to come in and bin Rashford off. Never going to happen, so better hope whoever comes in can get a tune out of him again.
A brave decision in the sense that the club would acknowledge that their star player (and local lad) isn't going to be part of the future plans rather than trying to make it work; the club would gamble that he's just a naturally very inconsistent player-hard to argue against at this point- and that his value is probably the highest it will ever be.
I would be shocked if that happens though and I think everyone would be. He'll play for another manager yet here and with probably the same results.
Our ruthlessness in dealing with players like Rashford left when Fergie left. Been a complete sh1tshow ever since. I honestly think Fergie would have roaded him ages ago.
We are sentimental club. We will keep him until he is 35, and we will wonder how come we haven't won anything with him. Same with his pal Sancho who is already angling for a post Ten Hag sack rerurn. All we need is Smaling and Jones.
Rashford is so detached from reality, his celebration shows it. Havent scored at Old Trafford since May, and you go and do that?
This is not the first time he was angry that he got replaced, as he did it in an away match earlier this season, after a stinker of a performance.
There was so much to like about him when he was breaking through. The fact that so many fans are turning on him is purely on him.
Rashford is so detached from reality, his celebration shows it. Havent scored at Old Trafford since May, and you go and do that?
This is not the first time he was angry that he got replaced, as he did it in an away match earlier this season, after a stinker of a performance.
There was so much to like about him when he was breaking through. The fact that so many fans are turning on him is purely on him.
Knowing United they will give him a new 5 year contract
Never gets his head up, he can not be part of an elite front 3, he doesn't work for the team.
If he gets his head up then the team wins more because theres players in better positions, he always just wants to cut inside and shoot, beyond predictable.
If he gets his head up then the team wins more because theres players in better positions, he always just wants to cut inside and shoot, beyond predictable.
He doesn't have to do shit when he's nailed on for 350k a week for the next 4 years, there lies the problem.
Overpaid... High, i guess, but he'll have plenty of company, starting by checking United's wage bill and then moving on to the wasteland of inflation that will soon take over the game entirely. But overrated? His current status as main man for a club with title aspirations and whether he deserves it or not is a legitimate debate only in the confines of United's microcosm. For the rest of the world, he's a good player and a dangerous outlet for counter-attacks and early balls in-behind. Nothing more, nothing less. At United, we're trying to solve a puzzle most of the world probably thinks is not worth all the fuss.
should be a bench player at best. his goal doesn't change that.
He plays like as though he thinks he is Mbappe, often attempting to take on players by himself to score.
I understand the frustration in his general play and decision making but if he can regain the hot form again and keep scoring goals and assists and it seems he’s the only players in our wingers who works well with Hojlund then I don’t think I would be bothered too much with his general play and decision making because that’s the main job of the front three. He’s not a midfielder who needs to retain possession and control the midfield or tempo. I would probably sign left centre midfielder who is very good in winning the ball, physical, good with his feet to play on tight space (May be someone like amadou onana) to counter balance Rashford’s general play and poor decision making (as long as Rashford can produce the end product).
Much better. He was more aggressive and showed signs of the best Rashford we know...
Something to build on. Hopefully
Something to build on. Hopefully
The bar is incredibly low if we consider them working well together. Even then, it’s more about Hojlund being a team player and his link up play than Rashford. Rashford has yet to record an assist to Hojlund, and while I don’t have the statistic in front of me, I’d be shocked if he’s intently created more than a couple chances for him. Hojlund’s goal v spurs was Rashford dribbling into defenders, into his teammate, being dispossessed then a bit of fortune the defender plays the ball to Hojlund, who creates the space to shoot.
Marcus is not meeting expectations, even the expectations of his skeptics.
Agreed. At least his stats in goals and assists are improving (although i'm not sure you can count the first goal on Sunday as an assist?).
I’m assuming you mean against spurs? It’s the same Rashford we’ve seen all season except he got a goal finally thanks to Højlund giving him the ball back. He constantly runs into defenders and loses the ball and that’s what got Hojlund a goal. He did it throughout that game and when he should shoot on his left he tries to cut back on his right and guess what… loses the ball again. He does to much halve the time rather then play it simple.
Which is sad that we have apparently unsellable players that have had a total of 2 objectively good seasons in 8 for us.
Hojlund’s disallowed goal vs Brighton came from Rashford’s cross. 2 of the 5 UCL Hojlund’s goals were assisted by Rashford. Rashford had assisted Hojlund and the only our wingers who did.
He also put one on a plate for him vs. Luton, which Højlund managed to miss from 3 yards.
2 goals and 2 assists in his last 4 games, thankfully he’s finally hitting some form.
Over-rated player, who acts as perfect symbol of how far we've fallen and got lucky by being an academy product, in a time where we needed a local hero, and too many of us wanted to believe we had our very own Mbappe.
Sure, there's a modicum of talent in there but we know he's highly streaky, lacks any sort of footballing intelligence, and is too often a lazy, sullen, on-pitch presence. But then he gets given that contract and we get stuck with him. At least for the next few years.
We start showing things have changed when we stop seeing him as a first choice pick - he's a squad player in any sort of decent squad..
Sure, there's a modicum of talent in there but we know he's highly streaky, lacks any sort of footballing intelligence, and is too often a lazy, sullen, on-pitch presence. But then he gets given that contract and we get stuck with him. At least for the next few years.
We start showing things have changed when we stop seeing him as a first choice pick - he's a squad player in any sort of decent squad..
If I had a quid for every player departure since Fergie that would suddenly show things have changed, feck me I’d have a few quid.
Fellaini, Depay, Di Maria, Pogba, Sanchez, Lukaku, Bailly, Matic, Fred, Ronaldo, Martial, Varane, Casemiro, Bruno, Lingard.
The thing is, these players leave, new ones replace em, little changes.
If anyone thinks the big problem at Manchester United and the reason we’re floundering is Marcus fecking Rashford and not a dogshit ownership and football structure that constantly fecks us over in the transfer market then they are the one with a problem, a serious mental health one.
The point here is that he's symbolic - an overrated, over-hyped player, given a ridiculous contract that creates yet another problem. Symbolic of a club that's been horribly run for a long time, where the driving factors - manager churn, no coherent playing strategy, a frankly crazy recruitment and retention model - can all be traced back to the failure of the owners to install a professional sporting operation. With professional people in charge.
Us moving on from the likes of Rashford, where he and other specialists in failure, get moved on, by a professional, progressive leadership, will be a sign that we might finally be turning the corner.
...moved on and replaced by better players, in key positions, enabled by proper recruitment and reward, and developed under a much better coaching and playing set-up. That's almost certainly a new manager, 3-4 years, and more money.