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Fellaini gets a disproportionate amount of flack. Herrara and Blind's weaknesses usually get overlooked on here.
Even if he's a plan B I will be pissed, I want us to win games late on like we used to under Fergie, putting teams under siege until some cracks start to open, not play long balls to this guy ahead.If we start next season with this guy as plan A I'm going to give up on all of humanity. Disgusting.
Basically came in here to say that myself.If we start next season with this guy as plan A I'm going to give up on all of humanity. Disgusting.
Basically came in here to say that myself.
He's incredibly effective when we're using his physicality to bully defenders and bring the ball down for runners etc, but in the second half it was like playing with 10 men in attack (well 9 with Falcao/RVP). He's just so painfully average on the ball, playing at speed. He couldn't organise a counter attack to save his life.
He's earned his place in the squad, but if we go into the opening day of next season with him as first choice, I think I'll probably have some sort of nervous breakdown.
You can bet your arse that if Herrera or Mata had played that pass, we wouldnt hear the end of it.
You can bet your arse that if Herrera or Mata had played that pass, we wouldnt hear the end of it.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Let us see you perform that pass in front of 60.000 in attendance with an United kit on. Yes it perhaps looks like a walk in the park pass but reality is not always how one is perceiving it.
Are you serious? I could have easily played that pass, it was nothing special.
I normally ignore these sorts of posts, but go on then, I'll bite;
Are you serious? I could have easily played that pass, it was nothing special.
I'm not biased, I like Fellaini and I'm happy for him. However he simply isn't Manchester United quality.I normally ignore these sorts of posts, but go on then, I'll bite;
It was an excellent pass, the weight on it was perfect, and Fellaini did well to delay playing it first time, so he could play it more centrally, inside the player closing him down.
Regardless, the statement was that he "couldnt organise a counter attack to save his life". The clip is obviously an example of him starting a counter attack which resulted in a great goal. Continuing to try to debate this really just shows your bias.
I just think it was funny pointing out that one of our 2 counter goals this season had Fellaini involvedEven a broken clock is right twice a day.
Fair play, that was a good pass, but its not something he has in his locker as a regular asset. His passing and vision is just very very limited, and seriously hinders us when we're not specifically able to play though him and use his physical assets, like in the second half today.
Its not an attack on Fellaini btw, its just the way it is. Mata isn't a particularly good dribbler for example, just pointing out doesn't mean I think he's shit. Just that we need more from a player in his position, in certain games. He's basically a pretty limited player, but one who can be used to incredible effect at times. But he shouldn't be plan A, B and C.
I would say it is a pretty clear indication of bias when you claim that you say things like;I'm not biased, I like Fellaini and I'm happy for him. However he simply isn't Manchester United quality.
I could have easily played that pass, it was nothing special.
Jeez, that pass was nothing special at all, most people could have played that ffs.I would say it is a pretty clear indication of bias when you claim that you say things like;
Here we go again with this tiresome bullshit.I'm not biased, I like Fellaini and I'm happy for him. However he simply isn't Manchester United quality.
Agree I thought Fellaini played well strange some posters comments.I thought he was pretty solid so I was surprised to see the criticism, but then I remembered it is Fellaini. He was a huge figure in our goal, the defenders were drawn too him. So the Caf's love child would not have even scored if it weren't for him. He also won the ball back well a few times.
Strange but nor surprisingAgree I thought Fellaini played well strange some posters comments.
He isn't United quality though. Spin it any way you want if it makes you feel better, but Fellaini is a very limited player.Here we go again with this tiresome bullshit.
Player x is not Manchester United quality. I bet he was United quality in matches he's performed in, right? The undispellable shit that you can't really argue against or for because it carries no real substance, people can't hit him with 'can't play in big games' anymore and he wasn't sent off once this season so the 'red card waiting to happen' twaddle cannot be used as well, so we're back to basics, not Manchester United quality.
Sure both ADM and Falcao were trully Manchester United quality when we bought them, right?
Nail on head.Player x is not Manchester United quality. I bet he was United quality in matches he's performed in, right? The undispellable shit that you can't really argue against or for because it carries no real substance, people can't hit him with 'can't play in big games' anymore and he wasn't sent off once this season so the 'red card waiting to happen' twaddle cannot be used as well, so we're back to basics, not Manchester United quality.
The cynic in me actually hopes he is a first choice starter next year, just to see the reactions of some people.It will be bad news to many, But he isnt going anywhere will be very much part of the squad next season
That's like saying, 'well Mata was good but once again he didn't win many headers.'Once again a good performance, but once again he doesn't create much.
Thankfully enough it's not you but LVG who decides and given how many times Fellaini's played this season, yes, he indeed is 'United quality' (whatever that measurement is) and I'm rather calm about him being 'United quality' next season as well.He isn't United quality though. Spin it any way you want if it makes you feel better, but Fellaini is a very limited player.
The difference being that I don't expect headers from a winger when I expect creativity from an advanced midfielder.That's like saying, 'well Mata was good but once again he didn't win many headers.'
But Fellaini isn't in the team to split defences with passes though. So if you expect that then you will be very disappointed every game.The difference being that I don't expect headers from a winger when I expect creativity from an advanced midfielder.
That's why I think that he isn't a good influence in our midfield.But Fellaini isn't in the team to split defences with passes though. So if you expect that then you will be very disappointed every game.
I can see that perspective. Although with Mata, Herrera, Di Maria/Young, Carrick, plus a good #9 I don't think creativity should be an issue. SO Fellaini should be able to fulfill the role that van Gaal wants him toThat's why I think that he isn't a good influence in our midfield.
The creativity is an issue, in the top 4 we are the fourth team in term of creativity, we create a lot less chances than our rivals, we can't continue like that, and the deficiency is clearly on the wings and the center midfield.I can see that perspective. Although with Mata, Herrera, Di Maria/Young, Carrick, plus a good #9 I don't think creativity should be an issue. SO Fellaini should be able to fulfill the role that van Gaal wants him to
I agree that creativity is an issue, but the fact remains that recently most of our chances have come from the left hand side, and it is Young and Fellaini who look most likely to provide something.The creativity is an issue, in the top 4 we are the fourth team in term of creativity, we create a lot less chances than our rivals, we can't continue like that, and the deficiency is clearly on the wings and the center midfield.
I don't believe in the notion that one half is supposed to be the creative side, that's plain wrong and it will limit us strongly.I agree that creativity is an issue, but the fact remains that recently most of our chances have come from the left hand side, and it is Young and Fellaini who look most likely to provide something.
Mata and Herrera are meant to be the 'creative' ones but haven't really done that, as the stat in your post confirms.