charlenefan
Far less insightful than the other Charley
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Answer me this did Fellaini play well?State of this shit.
Did United play well?
Did Young Boys deserve their draw?
Answer those and came back to me
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Answer me this did Fellaini play well?State of this shit.
No.Answer me this did Fellaini play well?
Did United play well?
Did Young Boys deserve their draw?
Answer those and came back to me
I didnt expect you to comment on Rashford's performance. Your comment simply made no sense since we controlled the midfield for the vast majority of the game where Fellaini played. Only for the attackers to mess up several 1v1s. We then brought on Pogba, moved Matic to defence and Fellaini up top and we scored.Why would I comment on Rashford's performance in Fellaini's thread? Our whole attacking unit was sub-par, but playing Fellaini from the start limits our play massively.
This 100%. His touch was terrible. His vision was terrible. His actual passes were terrible.I thought that he was shit, frankly, and one of the biggest (literally as well as figuratively) reasons behind our toothless attacking display. Aside from the goal, obviously, fair play to him.
Ok you're obviously mentally challenged so let me spell it out, if Fellaini didn't play well and United didn't play well and didn't deserve to win...No.
No
No.
Now go on with your mental gymnastics and explain how 'no way did he deserve to score the winner' makes any sense and how those three idiotic questions are relevant to the idiotic statement you spewed in the first place. Good luck with that.
Fellaini got us to the business end of CL with his goal. He scores after a pretty average game. In my book, thats a real pro never giving up. Good fecking game from him.Answer me this did Fellaini play well?
Did United play well?
Did Young Boys deserve their draw?
Answer those and came back to me
Are you sure I'm the mentally challenged one? Not sure why you'd come up with such disgusting insult in the first place. Just because neither Fellaini nor us played well, it doesn't mean that Young Boys deserved shit from this game, nor does it mean that he 'didn't deserve to score the winner'. Unless you continue your 2+2=5 bullshit, that is.Ok you're obviously mentally challenged so let me spell it out,
Answer me this did Fellaini play well?
Did United play well?
Did Young Boys deserve their draw?
Answer those and came back to me
I'm sorry but I'm hardly going to take you telling me to feck off am I? If you said that to me face to face I'd slap the taste out of your mouth but alas as I'm behind a keyboard I'll insult you just as you did to meAre you sure I'm the mentally challenged one? Not sure why you'd come up with such disgusting insult in the first place. Just because neither Fellaini nor us played well, it doesn't mean that Young Boys deserved shit from this game, nor does it mean that he 'didn't deserve to score the winner'. Unless you continue your 2+2=5 bullshit, that is.
This. We wouldn't need a last minute winner from him if our style of play was more modern. Instead Jose insists on having the slowest midfield duo possible and refuses to let other players have even the slightest chance.It's true though, I agree with the OP. His performance summed up everything that's wrong with the club at the moment. Way too slow transitioning from defence into attack, severe lack of urgency, intelligence and technical ability, and managing to paper over the cracks with a goal from a long ball.
I'm sorry but I'm hardly going to take you telling me to feck off am I? If you said that to me face to face I'd slap the taste out of your mouth but alas as I'm behind a keyboard I'll insult you just as you did to me
Don't dish it out lad
You too cnut
Honestly, do us all a favour, yourself included, and just feck off.
What the hell is wrong with this place? Guy scores us the winner in a solo-action, give the man some credit.Ok you're obviously mentally challenged so let me spell it out, if Fellaini didn't play well and United didn't play well and didn't deserve to win...
If you're going to use that kind of logic, Arsenal would be the better team of the 90s and 00s mate.Answer me this did Fellaini play well?
Did United play well?
Did Young Boys deserve their draw?
Answer those and came back to me
We expect different things from midfielders then. I don't think that we controlled the midfield because control means something more than simply retaining possession against an opponent that doesn't challenge you. And Fellaini, who was playing as an attacking midfielder in a 4-2-3-1, failed to do anything of note creatively — only when Pogba came on our midfield began to kinda successfully move the ball forward.Your comment simply made no sense since we controlled the midfield for the vast majority of the game where Fellaini played. Only for the attackers to mess up several 1v1s.
Thing is we bought him from Everton pretty much after a few good seasons of him doing exactly that for them ...No other team in the top six would play him in the ten position. He does not have the skill, the control, the vision, the decision process, to play there.
They might play him in the holding MF position. But not the ten.
Starting him in the ten tonight was overkill. Mata or even pogba would have been much better.
If you think Fellaini was being deployed as a creator then I can't really say much since he basically never passed forward and passed to Matic or the wide player almost every time he got the ball. He had two main roles, first was to clean up the second balls so Matic and Fred can move the ball forward and second was to stay on the last line to receive the ball when attacking.We expect different things from midfielders then. I don't think that we controlled the midfield because control means something more than simply retaining possession against an opponent that doesn't challenge you. And Fellaini, who was playing as an attacking midfielder in a 4-2-3-1, failed to do anything of note creatively — only when Pogba came on our midfield began to kinda successfully move the ball forward.
It's probably a burden of expectations from my side. A central player in the 4-2-3-1 has to be the most creative one, the fantasista, and we have Fellaini there. He has his uses, which he showed with his well-taken goal (although I don't think that starting him is a good idea for any game), but not in this role and not in this formation.
That's the fecking pointIf you think Fellaini was being deployed as a creator then I can't really say much since he basically never passed forward and passed to Matic or the wide player almost every time he got the ball.
Sad but true.Our uniquely belligerent tactic of letting him play in whatever position he fecking wants to for four whole years has certainly reaped the expected dividends...
I mean, we’re an ugly mid-table side that relies on desperate hoof ball to get results. So you can’t say it isn’t working.
Fair. He's more an example of the failings of the entire Post-SAF era.Its frustrating when people use a player as an example of the failings of an entire group.
He is a problem, though.He's not the problem.
Fellaini played in all those positions tonight. As he does most nights, in fairness.In terms of midfield? We have a bit of variation but defensively we have issues and outwide we have issues and the forward line.
We do. He's one of them.We've problems all over the park
Indeed....Wait, why is Fellaini playing as a striker?We played a hopeful ball forward, Lukaku flicks it on and Felliani does what you would want from any striker in this instance.
He was playing as a striker for the entire gameFellaini offers more defensive stability
Our main target man. That's the problem.a target man
As our main defacto target man, sure. That's the problem.and he's capable of scoring goals.
He is a problem, thoughHe's not the problem
Yeah! feck the Belgians!This is a player, made to feel unwelcome because of their prejudice.
He's not a squad player. He's our manager's favourite multi-tasking wild card Plan A, B & C. Who started in a midfield two with another 30+ year old favourite against a team called Young Boys!It was such a big goal and you get people still unable to accept squad players/ rotation he's a very good to have.
He literally just held us to randsom for another contract.He won't be on crazy money unlike some who produce far less when it actually matters.
One being playing Fellaini and Matic at home against a team called Young Boys!We are limited in a lot of areas.
We certainly have too many attackers. Yet we still manage to play Fellaini and Matic at home against a team called Young Boys.... YOUNG BOYS!!!We are an inbalanced team/squad.
Fellaini and Matic, maybe?There is so much wrong with this team
From Fellaini and Matic, maybe?especially when you see the lack of movement.
Apparently, that you're not good enough to displace the likes of Fellaini and Matic?What are the coaches telling these players?
I was in full agreement, nodding along until....I always think it's quite odd how many important goals Fellaini pops up with, yet he seems to be one of the most disliked players by United fans.
Can't help but feel sometimes that he's the post-Fergie scapegoat, more so than Moyes (who, himself, was harshly treated).
It's not a personal problem, is what he represents if you compare United in the last years vs what United should've been the last seasons.I always think it's quite odd how many important goals Fellaini pops up with, yet he seems to be one of the most disliked players by United fans.
Can't help but feel sometimes that he's the post-Fergie scapegoat, more so than Moyes (who, himself, was harshly treated).