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"Don't want the ball".Mount is another in that mould. The van de Beek, McTominay, Sabitzer build. Ten Hag seems to like central midfielders who don’t want the ball.
It wasn't a good performance at all, and if he plays like this every match, then it's an awful transfer and he'll be rightfully labelled a flop. However, it is one game. Why can't you support your own players that we recently bought? I mean, what's the problem? Okay, maybe you didn't want him to begin with, but why are you talking so much shit about him instead of hoping he plays well?No one's crying but thanks for showing concern. Do you have a comment to make about Mount's performance in the Mason Mount performance thread or are you more concerned about defending him against people who rightly point out he was shite?
Think it's key to understand that we're not changing our set-up to fit him in but rather we bought him to fit the way we want to set-up.Did what was expected, namely being pretty much useless, specifically in this setup. I know it’s extremely early, but I am convinced he will flop badly here. There is just nothing convincing about the way he plays, and he isn’t good enough to change our setup to fit him in.
Fred was better in all those aspects. For £55 million I’m not seeing an obvious upgrade.I still don't understand Erik's idea behind this signing. Mount's mobility, energy, pressing...all look great on paper but we are wide open with him paired with Bruno.
McTominay came on in 88 for Rashford. We changed our formation when he came on. Eriksen changed for Mount, and Wolves almost scored two in that time.We were worse when McTominay came on. As always happens. We were a threat until then and got our goal then.
We literally could have gone for Caicedo but instead decided to go for the "double advanced 8's" gimmick when our captain is the completely wrong player for that style.He only confirmed what I had always thought, which is that he would never work properly as a 8 next to Bruno. He is a 10 and a rather mediocre one. Those 60m could have been spent so much wiser..
What makes you think I want him to fail? That doesn't sound like the best scenario for Manchester United and I want what's best for the team. Right now, our best chances of winning are without him playing and someone else, preferably a new signing playing instead, if we can get one in this month but I doubt that.It wasn't a good performance at all, and if he plays like this every match, then it's an awful transfer and he'll be rightfully labelled a flop. However, it is one game. Why can't you support your own players that we recently bought? I mean, what's the problem? Okay, maybe you didn't want him to begin with, but why are you talking so much shit about him instead of hoping he plays well?
Personally, I know he's much better than this, but we'll see how he performs the next games. In this particular game, I'm not concerned because the entire team played awful, except AWB. For some reason, you're only commenting on Mount's performance. Do you not think he will be better when everyone plays better?
Good of you to give him all of one competitive game before passing your final judgement. Almost as if you went into the season ready to write him off.He only confirmed what I had always thought, which is that he would never work properly as a 8 next to Bruno. He is a 10 and a rather mediocre one. Those 60m could have been spent so much wiser..
It's insane for me to see a top-level manager making those kind of mistakes.We literally could have gone for Caicedo but instead decided to go for the "double advanced 8's" gimmick when our captain is the completely wrong player for that style.
Casemiro and Caicedo pivot with Bruno ahead would have been disgustingly solid.
Another reminder that all managers are very fallible and all have their blind spotsIt's insane for me to see a top-level manager making those kind of mistakes.
How can he look at the profiles of Bruno and Casemiro and think adding Mount would make a good balanced midfield?
He wasn't he left casemiro out to dry all gameHe was the best midfielder today which of course doesnt mean much given how bad Casemiro and Bruno were.
We have been watching Mount playing for Chelsea for few years now. He's not new to the league.*team has bad season opener*
"we've seen enough, clearly *new signing* is shit and will never be good enough."
Hope I'm horribly wrong but it's feels like history repeating itself. He wanted Frenkie (grealish) and ended up settling for Mount (Donny). He wasn't his first choice, he just took the opportunity when it came up.It's insane for me to see a top-level manager making those kind of mistakes.
How can he look at the profiles of Bruno and Casemiro and think adding Mount would make a good balanced midfield?
He seems to be enamored with former players from past teams. It does my head in.It's insane for me to see a top-level manager making those kind of mistakes.
How can he look at the profiles of Bruno and Casemiro and think adding Mount would make a good balanced midfield?
Why is this relevant to Mount?He seems to be enamored with former players from past teams. It does my head in.
Problem is Frenkie and Mount are completely different styles of players no matter how you want to debate their quality. Frenkie would essentially play next to Case while Bruno would roam in front, while Mount plays almost directly behind the forwards leaving Case as the lone man behind. So it wouldn't even make sense having Mount as the "second option" to De Jong. If anything that should have been CaicedoHope I'm horribly wrong but it's feels like history repeating itself. He wanted Frenkie (grealish) and ended up settling for Mount (Donny). He wasn't his first choice, he just took the opportunity when it came up.
Because we went hard for Mount as our first signing? You do realize he played against Ten Hag and Erik wanted him signed back when the former was on loan at Vitesse right?Why is this relevant to Mount?
I’m fully aware, but he isn’t a former player from his past team.Because we went hard for Mount as our first signing? You do realize he played against Ten Hag and Erik wanted him signed back when the former was on loan at Vitesse right?
Re-reading my first post, I meant to add players that he has familiarity with both playing with or against. Mount, Malacia, Gakpo, De Jong, Martinez, Timber, Dumfries, Onana, Antony, Kudus. All signings or heavily linked to us. Regardless of the individual quality of each, it's certainly a pattern with Erik and not one I like. It's too difficult for managers to also be the driving force of transfer targets, almost none of them do it successfully. You need to be able to trust your scouting network/structure in identifying players and making signings that aren't purely driven by the manager.I’m fully aware, but he isn’t a former player from his past team.
Kovacic was the one if you look at what we lack as a team. A midfielder good in tight spaces and can receive the ball on the turn.Pretty sure we would be a better team with either Kovacic or MacAllister instead of Mount
