It's small margins. Hector's pen was just as bad but Buffon fecked up the save and he's now the hero.
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Agree. And Bastian had a shit penalty too! Imagine if Germany lost the penalty shoot out.
Bastian for all the talk of his mental strength had quite some notable penalty miss. A notable one is the penalty miss vs Chelsea in CL final.
Jeez, have any of you ever taken a penalty in a meaningful scenario? I have, and it's pretty scary, especially when you barely have the energy for the run up. Give the guy a break.
Blaming Darmian is caf at its finest. He missed a pen, big deal. He isn't a pen taker- thats why he was 10th in line. You can blame Zaza or Pelle as these are forwards and you expect them to finish from 12 yards out. But there is nothing shameful for a defender who is believed to be the worst outfield pen taker in his team to miss his penalty against the 2nd best GK in the world
He's awful.
Its normal business around here. Being negative is a great way to get noticed.
Hopefully he'll be so hideously embarrassed by that pen that he'll immediately retire from international duty !
Ffs, Darmian is nowhere near similar to Denis Irwin.
so you base you assessment of a persons mentality on his how he looks on your tv during a football game?
It was a normal safe bet pen which went wrong because goalkeeper jumped in the right direction. You often see that kind of pens when goalkeeper go in the wrong direction and a sure goal because it is not right in the corner so you can't miss a target.
And as someone else said, Hector penalty was the same with only difference that Buffon didn't save it.
And as someone else said, Hector penalty was the same with only difference that Buffon didn't save it.
He's been in and out of the side throughout the season and at times when he started looking settled he got injured.
IMO defensively he is solid, but at the moment he seems short on confidence and lacks any sort of aggression when defending. Hopefully Mourinho can help him with that.
(A defender is not judged by his penalty taking abilities, especially if it's one pen in a one off game. Don't understand why it's even a topic for a discussion)
IMO defensively he is solid, but at the moment he seems short on confidence and lacks any sort of aggression when defending. Hopefully Mourinho can help him with that.
(A defender is not judged by his penalty taking abilities, especially if it's one pen in a one off game. Don't understand why it's even a topic for a discussion)
Absolutely this. Hate it.
Looks? based on how he plays obviously. He has never filled me with confidence apart from the first few games he played for us. A guy like Mourinho doesn't like putting much effort in to change weak players mentalities. He won't last the season. He just got called Denis Irwin FFS on the basis of what.. what has he shown in his career to date to be called Irwin?
Hummels's pen was pretty much the same, even he couldn't believe that it went in.
Sorry you don't agree but I think he could turn out to be a Denis Irwin type fullback in time. FFSFfs, Darmian is nowhere near similar to Denis Irwin.
I'm going to agree with LazyBones here. I don't see a single similarity between them.
Last I knew Denis Irwin wasn't a complete non-entity going forward and wasn't average defensively either.
Could score penalties too...
Dennis Irwin is seriously being compared to this bang average lad? Christ. One of the finest fullbacks of the PL era compared to a player that had a pretty poor first season for us. Wow.
No he isn't mate seriously.
Irwin was great defensively and very good going forward. He rarely ever had a bad game, Darmian rarely had a good one for us least year.
Darmian might get better defensively next year but he'll never pull his weight attacking wise in my opinion.
When Alex Ferguson was asked to name his best team from his 26 years in charge he said Denis Irwin would be the first name on his team every time. After that he couldn't say who else would make the team. Think about that for a second. And you compare a player who had a below average season to Denis Irwin?? Please Stop.
http://m.independent.ie/sport/socce...st-team-ever-says-alex-ferguson-29711450.html
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Worth keeping him around as he covers a few options but I would prefer Valencia and TFM ahead of him at RB and Shaw/CBJ ahead of him at LB. He's just nowhere near good enough on the ball
If we sold every player that came from a foreign league after one poor season, we wouldn't have had the best CB, LB and GK in the league in the last 10 years.
People have such short memories. Last year in pre-season he looked like an absolute steal for the money we paid.
A no nonsense defender that was impossible to get past.
Slowly and steadily his form declined as LvG stifled him (and many others).
He will no doubt shine again, given the chance. I have full confidence in Mourinho when it comes to bringing the best out of him.
A no nonsense defender that was impossible to get past.
Slowly and steadily his form declined as LvG stifled him (and many others).
He will no doubt shine again, given the chance. I have full confidence in Mourinho when it comes to bringing the best out of him.
Very good point. He's far better than he gets credit for on here. I'm sure he will be much better under Mourinho next year.
Agree.
Just look at the club's linked with him. Juve, Barca and Chelsea. Would be ridiculous to bin him.
He definitely deserves another season. He started out well and was obviously very highly rated in Italy before this season as well. If we got rid of every player that played poorly last season we'd basically just have DDG and Martial.
Selling him would be silly alright. However, he really needs to step it up big time next season. He started off well and then his form drastically dropped off.
i think Rashford deserves a 2nd season perhaps
In his early games, he was really very good. Then he declined, just like 80% of the team. Same reason why Di Maria looked so freaking good for us early on then became dog shit - LVG's man management.
Assuming the fourth signing is Pogba, I guess we'll be starting a bit like this:
De Gea
Darmian, Smalling, Bailly, Shaw
Pogba, Schneiderlin
Mkhitariyan, Rooney, Martial
Zlatan
If we think our new signings won't do an Evra and take a season to adjust and that the likes of Darmian/Schneiderlin did do an Evra and will improve this season, then that isn't too shabby.
De Gea
Darmian, Smalling, Bailly, Shaw
Pogba, Schneiderlin
Mkhitariyan, Rooney, Martial
Zlatan
If we think our new signings won't do an Evra and take a season to adjust and that the likes of Darmian/Schneiderlin did do an Evra and will improve this season, then that isn't too shabby.
Why is Darmian rated so highly on here?
He was absolutely appalling last season and got progressively worse as the season progressed.
He is poor offensively and defensively.
He has no pace, strength or heading ability, he is a poor passer and crosser of the ball.
He has little composure and seems to wilt on the big stage.
His performance against Spurs sums him up, he replaced a young kid in TFM who was playing out of position and within 10 minutes we had conceded three goals.
Valencia has his weaknesses but is vastly better at RB than Darmian.
Varela and TFM are both better at RB as well and have a large scope for improvement in the future.
We should sell now before his value plummets even further.
He was absolutely appalling last season and got progressively worse as the season progressed.
He is poor offensively and defensively.
He has no pace, strength or heading ability, he is a poor passer and crosser of the ball.
He has little composure and seems to wilt on the big stage.
His performance against Spurs sums him up, he replaced a young kid in TFM who was playing out of position and within 10 minutes we had conceded three goals.
Valencia has his weaknesses but is vastly better at RB than Darmian.
Varela and TFM are both better at RB as well and have a large scope for improvement in the future.
We should sell now before his value plummets even further.
Don't hold back, say what you really feel..
But no, there's a lot of us who have mostly similar thoughts but we're willing to give Darmian another season given it's his firist year in a new country/league and let's be honest, many players underperformed under LvG and we hold hope the new manager can get more from a bunch of them this season.
You must have posted on the wrong forum then.
He has none of the attributes to be a top right back.
Physically, technically and mentally he is poor, Jose is not a magician.
Varela and especially TFM have massive potential and are currently better than Darmian.
Keeping him is harmful to their development. If an experienced option is needed at RB Valencia is the vastly superior choice.
I don't blame him for anything but when I saw he stepped up for that penalty, I said to my dad, I just know he is going to miss, I'am 100% certain and he did.
The guy oozes doubt, fear, doesn't look confident at all. Been very poor this season for us and never shined through except maybay in his first games.
If Jose can fix him, he is welcome to stay but if not then we simply have to sell. He looks one of the poorest players I have seen in a united shirt for a very long time.
People on here like to bash Rooney and Fellaini and I don't like the way they are playing either but imo performances of Darmian and Depay have been ones that are truely unacceptable at this level. They will have to step up massively under Jose, starting first game in pre-season, if they don't they will go out very soon.
The guy oozes doubt, fear, doesn't look confident at all. Been very poor this season for us and never shined through except maybay in his first games.
If Jose can fix him, he is welcome to stay but if not then we simply have to sell. He looks one of the poorest players I have seen in a united shirt for a very long time.
People on here like to bash Rooney and Fellaini and I don't like the way they are playing either but imo performances of Darmian and Depay have been ones that are truely unacceptable at this level. They will have to step up massively under Jose, starting first game in pre-season, if they don't they will go out very soon.
I also much prefer Valencia at RB, despite how many people on here seem to have an irrational dislike for the guy, but Darmian has shown previously for Italy and Torino he has some talent about him. In preseason he looked very good, and the first few games he also put in some solid performances before he lost all confidence the longer the season went on.
He didn't cost a bomb and we wouldn't get a massive amount from him anyway you'd feel... so I don't see the harm in keeping him around another year to see if he can progress. Thats just my take on the situation anyway.
I did exactly the same thing. I just knew after this season he had, he would be the 1 to blow it
He started off well, then regressed alarmingly, but how many United players DID have a good season last year ? I think he COULD be a steady and consistent performer in years to come, but then again he might not. He deserves a chance same as everyone else. Jose likes steady and reliable fullbacks like Ferreira and Azpilicueta. Their are plenty of options at right back currently. Hopefully the majority of the squad will start playing under again Jose.
This is a forum where people give their opinions and discuss things, if you totally disagree with something I say, that's fine, no worries, but don't tell me or anyone else to stop expressing their opinions. Ever.
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