Mourinho tells Paul Pogba he'll never captain Manchester United again
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He wanted to start his career, it wasn't happening at Manchester United. The fact is he was right in his move to Juventus, and came back here the most expensive player in the world at the time. There's no debate he was right to do what he did (maybe not to United fans, but to anyone else at least), but besides that exit which is all articles quoted by SAF who I'm pretty sure was not unbiased in his comments, where else has Pogba ever been a trouble maker? It's just not the type of person he is, he wouldn't have survived at Juventus or with Deschamps otherwise.
Would love to see Ed tell Jose that he would never manage Utd again.
I don't remember tbh
What a circus 
They're both clowns honestly.
They're both clowns honestly.
I think Pogba is a clown , who spends more time on his hair and social media than actually wanting to play for us, but Jose is not far behind him.
Beginning to dislike both intensely
Beginning to dislike both intensely
Agreed
Not sure where you have that info from. Our interest in signing Pogba came via Mourinho, he tried to sign him when he was at Chelsea in his last stint but Raiola&Co weren't going to get anywhere with Juventus.
He has been at three clubs and caused trouble twice. National teams are always a different atmosphere, usually it's more difficult to create tension in National teams because they're a product of how well the players do for their respective clubs and if a player is causing trouble/is in bad form and not playing, they don't play for the National team.
Only those involved in the club directly will know what happened... many things could have taken place. On one hand Pogba would have had an opportunity had he knuckled down. He tried to force the hand of one of the greatest and was rightly shown the door. You could also argue Pogba forced the move, one day we may know for sure.
You need to read up. Pogba was an Ed Woodward production and was in the works for some time.
Pogba hasn't played for three clubs and he hasn't caused trouble twice.
Okay... two separate stints at United and is causing trouble both times. If you want to get pedantic... you knew what I meant.
There are no two separate sets of incidents either. A player choosing to leave at the end of his contract isn't an incident.
Read up on what. Do you have anything substantial to back up your claims with, apart from "read up". Mourinho wanted Pogba at Chelsea. People like to make claims about a lot of things, but backing claims up with anything useful seems to be somewhat boring
They would need to spend crazy money so doubt it. If they did we can invest in other areas
As much as I find it hard to like pogba if you’re thinking of the future and you’ve to pick one there’s only going to be one winner.
Do you actually have confidence in our club to reinvest the money wisely? Most players we buy end up being disappointments.
Feck them both now, that is not a circus. Someone has to stop that. Why the feck Jose talks about it publicly? Proud and wants that he controls the big boys? Wtf is this!
I was hoping Pogba was going to come on Sky after Jose’s interview and give his side of the story. Now that would have been drama.
Also, what was the story with Pogba at the game. We are 1-2 and he gets up and leaves. Did he know the cameras were on him and did it for show? Also I am guessing that he went to the dressing room rather than leave the ground. Anyone have any insight?
All in all an unsightly spat that does nothing for either party and more importantly does even less for the club.
Sort yourselves out ffs.
Also, what was the story with Pogba at the game. We are 1-2 and he gets up and leaves. Did he know the cameras were on him and did it for show? Also I am guessing that he went to the dressing room rather than leave the ground. Anyone have any insight?
All in all an unsightly spat that does nothing for either party and more importantly does even less for the club.
Sort yourselves out ffs.
We'll see who the board back and favour when this eventually reaches it's pinnacle.
I suggest Pogba and Mourinho should both take (a much needed) 100/150 mg dose of LSD-25 and then we’ll see some love as well as original tactics.
Think there was only a few minutes left so all the players left to get down to meet those who played then the board went up for 6 minutes and equaliser meant pens. Don't think it was any more than that.
It seems to be a true story; we'll soon find out. The club is a soap opera at the moment, with rumours, bust ups and so many distractions. It's is sad to see.
We'll just need to wait and see what happens: whether either of them will still be at the club come the end of the season. Bad times.
We'll just need to wait and see what happens: whether either of them will still be at the club come the end of the season. Bad times.
Pogba the only world class outfield player we have and seems to be the only one with enough courage to stand up to Jose. He is right when he says attack. Jose sets us up defensively first even against smaller clubs. And our pressing is half arsed not due to laziness but because its a reactive safety first press which if anything is more dangerous than an actual proper press. Shambolic coaching paired with absolute hapless dross like Jones is a disaster
This is all so typical of Mourinho managed clubs. There's a pattern and it's happening here. Shit performance, followed by bad results, leads to public criticism of players which eventually leads to public fall outs with the best players at the club. It's happening again and some fans don't seem to see it.
We just lost but this is the headline news. Jose got what he wanted
We just lost but this is the headline news. Jose got what he wanted
I think the vast majority get it, but you must remember:
Those who fall on the far left of this distribution will always be slower than the rest to 'get it'
This feels exactly like he end of his second Chelsea stint. Mixed results, press rants, falling out with his big name players. Oh how we laughed when we were warned of the 3rd year meltdown.
We now have a manager vs player situation, this isn't going to end well.
We're a mess on and off the pitch, we're a brand instead of a football club.
We're a mess on and off the pitch, we're a brand instead of a football club.
In terms of Pogba, it shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that Raiola is starting to push for an exit. He was never going to stay for more than 3-4 seasons, no matter if they were a success or not, i'd be very surprised if he doesn't leave next summer. It's all about the $
Difference being we have enough time to salvage something out of this season if we react quickly and unlike Chelsea we don't owe him anything, he's not coming off a title winning season.
I think the vast majority get it, but you must remember:
Those who fall on the far left of this distribution will always be slower than the rest to 'get it'
That's a bit harsh! Some fans are just blinded by their support I think. We had fans defending Moyes on here when it was clear he wasn't good enough and never will be. A lot of fans are just trying to support the club through troubled times. Unfortunately, their supported is wasted, Mourinho is done for.
Riaola confirmed it so yeh read up.
Agreed. My only worry is its so early in the season targets might be difficult to get.
Mourinho confirmed it post match, Pogba no longer vice captain.
I think the vast majority get it, but you must remember:
Those who fall on the far left of this distribution will always be slower than the rest to 'get it'
This kind of subtle insult post always fascinating. An elegant way to say if you are not in my camp you are stupid folks without getting warning.
https://www.skysports.com/football/...pogba-at-chelsea-last-season-says-mino-raiola
We did a shit job then.
I’d post you a link to wrap it up but I don’t have privileges. Look it up on google.
Missed a lot of the thread, just to say I for one got it wrong, Mourinho/the club obviously did leak to the press on this occasion. Not so bothered about the decision, but not impressed with the way he/they went about it. No way to build a team for me, he should have let the players know, that was the point, but should also have kept it in-house as much as possible.
Has anyone watched pogba's latest instagram story? it is really a circus now isn't it 
It's the right call but I think giving it him in the first place was a really misguided attempt to sort out his attitude. Prima Donna's like Pogba won't respond to the carrot if the stick was used previously.
Quite sure all this only ends with more poor displays on the pitch. Jose needs to find 11 players in the club who'll play for him/the shirt. If he can't then we might as well sack him before we get too far behind in the race for 4th.
Quite sure all this only ends with more poor displays on the pitch. Jose needs to find 11 players in the club who'll play for him/the shirt. If he can't then we might as well sack him before we get too far behind in the race for 4th.