Terrible buy from Mourinho. No idea what he was thinking.
Rodgers nearly won them the league.
Probably that he could always dump him in a year and buy a new one if he wanted. That’s not gonna happen anymore Mou
I thought that the structure of the club was wrong then and still think that it's the case now. I also thought that Woodward was visibly competent in his previous role and should focus on that.
Because Dalglish bought them Suarez who was ready to explode on the football scene.
Not sure he would have bought a young-ish CB from a another league if he thought that. He obviously saw something he liked but I don't see what because I think Lindelof is poor.
He's not making footballing decision other than choosing the manager.
Do you actually know these proper people? They are all businessmen that had nothing to do with football, their board is basically the same as ours at the exception of Dalglish who like SAF isn't an executive member.
Or we could get another manager and go on a Zidanesque triple CL run. You'd be gutted
. Since you're so good at seeing the future tell us what happens if the same Glazers your slating kept Jose and gave him $500m more to spend. 10 years of glory and annual quadruples instead right? Imagine predicting a terrible future for the club you claim to support except they keep your favorite manager then question the loyalty of other fans.I've not said this at all.Or we could get another manager and go on a Zidanesque triple CL run. You'd be gutted
So what would it take to convince you that its not just 'short term' success, what would a new manager have to achieve?
Well that's just your rubbish opinion not some sort of fact isn't it? Wanna hear mine? Mourinho won't win a major trophy here cos he's past it, and if we had hired someone who knew what the feck they were doing and gave them $400m after we'd be up there challenging for the EPL not sitting in 10th place, playing worse football than Derby. Opunions eh
We should have backed him in the summer and then we'd be certain as we got 2nd and it looked more likely we'd be able to push on. I don't think he's past it over the past 6 months I think we openly weakened his position in front of a squad looking for a reason to drop a level because of dislike for his demanding methods and less than modern approach. Still I think Mou will win major trophies again prob not here given his untenable position now. Whomever we bring in we must ensure he plays the way we want with the values we hold dear. More friendly with the playing staff, more we than me, none of this trumps a fully backed Mou for me but that boat has now sailed and we need to move on.
More proof that American people and Association Football simly do not mix well.
Who? Run out of arguments so now you're just wumming? fecking had to google association football too
Don't forget letting Moyes trash the backroom staff.
Seeing what he's done with done with all the 'backing' in his first two seasons I'd say not backing him this summer is the best decision the club has made since he came, renewing his contract being the worst. Imagine buying Maguire, Willian and Toby all for $70m apiece only for him not to know what to do with them or have them going to total shit like Sanchez and Matic and almost all the players he bought.
Well that's your opinion but I think we made strides in the first 2 seasons and although the playing style still irked we did win some trophies and were closer to the top. We need new CBs. Toby from spurs would have done for me. He would have got a good price for Jones or whomever as he usually does when letting them go. I get your point but after extending his contract, back tracking on transfers was a poor move. Either not extend and move for another man to lead or back him. It hurts the club doing this.....
A new manager capable of raising confidence levels and being a leader and I don't think we are far behind once more. Everything looks bad with the wrong man in charge. A couple of good buys and more confidence and this team can challenge for me. Providing we have a club all pulling in the same direction for what seems like an eternity with some real direction!!
One!!?????
I agree on a new manager being a leader I think that if we are ever having a blip a manager should protect his players by absorbing the pressure and sorting problems in house not in the media, as I believe throwing players under the bus lets rivals know that things at our club are not going as smoothly as they should. I think that by knowing that they are not going to get slaughtered in the media for making a mistake will raise the players confidence.
Agreed. We decide who we are as a club. We bring in a DoF who shares those values. We allow him to build the recruitment which runs independently of manager whims. We appoint a manager who again shares the values laid out to him in the appointment process. We always back said manager in as much as we can in terms of bringing in players for positions he raises concerns with. We stick to this for 4-5 years regardless of ups and downs and manager appointments. It's not quite as rigid as I make it mind. I think a manager needs his input but he cannot be the only voice. Ed needs to have no voice apart from the amounts available! I think we screwed Mou. Whether that was right or wrong is debatable. Giving him a contract pre screwing is not really up for debate. We show a lack of strategy and quite rightly it shows on the field. That's fair and a good thing.
A very valid point you mentioned is to lay out the values to the manager in the appointment process because then he knows what to expect and doesn't have excuse to go moaning like Jose and you are right on giving him as much support in the transfer market, as his thinking will be on the same page as the Director of Football.
Well that too with hindsight. I argued at the time that Moyes had the right to bring his own trusted people. I knew as soon as I saw ‘jimmy’ that I was wrong. Dumbass
Do you complain about them last season?
Exactly my point as well. And this is exactly what every other club does when things go wrong, instead of booting out the owners
Thank feck
He probably thought lets buy him and if it shit hits fan then Id ask for some 30 year old for 60m
It was the perfect move. People have said it time and time again that this CB excuse is just that, an excuse he's gotten all of you to buy into. We almost got beat by Newcastle man, NEWCASTLE!! They have 2 points all season but came to OT and put two past us. We got outplayed by the likes of Wolves and Derby, these are teams I'd expect even Moyes to win . How you people have convinced yourselves that Jose, after buying like 10 players and spending $400m is the victim here is remarkable. So when he buys Toby we'll start having an attacking plan? We'll stop booting the ball to Lukaku and Fellaini? Jose spent more than Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs since he came but plays worse football than them all and its because of fecking Toby?! He's only been outspent by Pep but somehow all these other guys being better than us makes sense to you?! So if we get beat by Everton or Cardiff you'll come out here to type that it's because we didn't sign a CB? You realise how stupid all this sounds to any rational thinking person? That before Jose can beat mid to bottom table teams he needs to buy more CB's after buying 10 players including 2 CB's, please be honest with yourself does this actually make sense to you?
football fandom is all about force fitting narratives and rationalizations after the fact, wouldn't be the same otherwise. See every signing made in the last 5 years so too the fanfare and optimism that greeted both Mou and LVGs appointments. You'd be forgiven for thinking they never had anyone's favor here going by the current mood.
Shame about him as I read a story about him when he was younger about how he got so pi$$ed off about losing a game that he run off to a forest and someone found him crying. At that point I really liked the attitude of the guy by showing how much he cared about winning or losing a game.
Agree with a lot of what you said in your post , if you want new owners you might like to have this guy running the club who I heard about in another thread. I certainly want him here if the Glazers do decide to sell: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...-chelsea-jim-ratcliffe-manchester-united-fan/
I’m never going to ‘support’ the Glazers - but post Sir Alex planning should have been (and was) with David Gill, not the owners. Very convenient of him to walk away when he did.
I personally don't like the Glazers ownership but would rather have them than someone like Mike Ashley. One thing I will give them respect for is not changing the name of Old Trafford which is something I thought they definitely would do.
