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And Pogba's career isn't over. He had a great career at Juventus and in England it's just started.My point is that to be a great player you need more than natural talent. Pogba is currently proving this.
And Pogba's career isn't over. He had a great career at Juventus and in England it's just started.My point is that to be a great player you need more than natural talent. Pogba is currently proving this.
They all have genuine competition for their place, though. Since Carrick's started looking his age around the turn of the year we're looking threadbare in central midfield. The stupid red card has compounded this for the next couple of games. Pogba should be taken out of the team but unfortunately that's not an option.He's arguably playing far worse than Mkhitaryan, Martial and Shaw have for any length of time and yet he doesn't get dropped.
He really doesn't look anything like the player in black and white last season.
Needs to be dropped for a prolonged period.
That said he wasn't to blame tonight.
Agree, the lack of any application, effort or desire really is atrocious from him recently.It's not tiredness, it's the attitude. Which is shit atm.
Interesting article when I was trying to find out about big signings from Serie A to the PLUnfortunately he needs a season to fully adapt to the PL's pace. You can't force it, it has to happen naturally. I could be talking bollocks because guys like Sanchez and Payet were great from the get-go.
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/why-do-so-many-big-serie-signings-flop-premier-leagueThere are many possible reasons why. Serie A is no longer the systemically defensive, goal-shy competition that it's regularly made out to be (indeed, last season it averaged 2.69 goals per game, second only to the Bundesliga among Europe's top five leagues), but there are undeniable stylistic differences between the top tiers of Italian and English football.
The Premier League’s thrill-a-minute intensity means that physical attributes are often coveted, whereas the more considered approach of many Serie A sides leads to a greater emphasis on tactics and out-thinking the opponent. Much of the dissimilarity boils down to variances in footballing culture between the two countries, and can have a major effect on the type of player that succeeds in each respective division.
Multiple stars who have flourished overseas have struggled to adapt to the speed of the Premier League.
Lamela himself admitted to having trouble adjusting a few months after he moved to Tottenham in the summer of 2013, suggesting that the English top flight is “not necessarily more difficult... just different”.
Some shockers in here tonight but a resident Spurs fan calling him a midfield equivalent of Balotelli takes the cake I always get the impression reading the opposition posters on here that they are desperate for him to flop so they can score some brownie points.
Coming to Pogba, it's been a mixed season for him. 41 appearances in space of six and a half months with no pre-season in a new team, new league and a new role it's not a huge surprise to me to see him struggle in games. I always thought folks thought of him as something he is not. An all-round midfield general who is excellent at both facets of the game like Vidal i.e., defensively and offensively. He's needed a baby sitter alongside him his entire career to succeed and at United we severely lack one so his deficiencies are being exposed more than ever before, add to the fact his attacking contribution has been hit and miss and you get some valid questions being raised here.
A lot of tactical talk with array of different formations are being thrown in here and people are writing him off that he'll never succeed in a midfield two, I suggest to them take out 15 mins of their time and go watch his debut performance vs Southampton which came in a midfield two. Everything you expect of a box to box midfielder was present there and I still believe that was his best performance in a red shirt so far. So, it's not something which can't be done. Ultimately, it's up to Pogba to step and improve his game. Get to grips with the pace of the PL, build an understanding with rest of the teammates and consistency will automatically come.
Willing to be there have been comments about him being poor even in games we have wonSadly not surprised. I love the idea that footballers but on their boots and intentionally 'put in a rubbish performance'. No issue about the criticism, just more often than not, it's only in general when we lose. We have won games that he's not be great but the focus is only on the result. We win 2-0 tonight, even if he was terrible, people are posting such negativity towards him.
Like that. He may never adapt as many don't but without patience we may never know. The funny thing is this potentially applicable to any signing from a different league and if Pogba doesn't work out, don't be too surprised in wondering why we can't attract top players from abroad. We have to create a culture that allows players time otherwise they sign for ready made success like Bayern et al.Interesting article when I was trying to find out about big signings from Serie A to the PL
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/why-do-so-many-big-serie-signings-flop-premier-league
I can see what you mean, similar to the 'Conte hitting the ground running with a new team vs Jose/others needing more time': it isn't always the case but there's no shame in needing time to adapt.Unfortunately he needs a season to fully adapt to the PL's pace. You can't force it, it has to happen naturally. I could be talking bollocks because guys like Sanchez and Payet were great from the get-go.
I'd be out there buying Modric if I had that kind of power. I think you misunderstood my post though.Lottery numbers for next week please....
Absolutely not like when we lose....Willing to be there have been comments about him being poor even in games we have won
Who would have thoughtAbsolutely not like when we lose....
Nope it was more about the power to predict the future....I'd be out there buying Modric if I had that kind of power. I think you misunderstood my post though.
diddums. He's not worth crying over.Nope. He has had more number of good performances than bad ones. Very underwhelming in big games and unreal expectations ruins it for him though.
Note: no need to reply with anything. You are a bizarre agenda driven tool.
The arrogance eh. I'm off to support Bury....I think they are happy the clubs still in existence. Foolish fansWho would have thought
Yes, my agenda and consistent opinion is that Pogba is over rated and perhaps a dud.I think it's you with the agenda. To say he's been shite all season is simply not true, and to single him out in the last couple of games is unfair too.
They're completely different though, predicting where a player's career go can be an informed prediction through assessing his current talents (the way you can tell certain players will go on to be superstars, ala Ronaldo) whereas lottery numbers are entirely guesswork.Nope it was more about the power to predict the future....
He is not young by any standard in any universe. And certainly not one where he's due a P45 aged around 32.We shouldn't over react he's still young. We're probably paying the price though for not dropping/resting him earlier when he under-performed. It's one thing Zlatan staying in with his output but Pogba probably hasn't warranted his untouchable status.
The feck are you on about? He's young by the most important standard of all. Elite central midfielders.He is not young by any standard in any universe. And certainly not one where he's due a P45 aged around 32.
I agree he's young - but he's no elite central midfielder.The feck are you on about? He's young by the most important standard of all. Elite central midfielders.
I'm saying I don't see him being a dominant traditional centre midfielder. He's a little bit too casual and languid to be that kind of midfielder. Take the little incident when he got dispossessed at the edge of our own box. Too casual. Thess kind of small mental things affect your performance, especially as a centre midfielder, which if you're as important to the team as Pogba is, affects the whole team.Nope it was more about the power to predict the future....
That's what he aspires to be. By the time he's at an age where most elite CMs are recognised as such.I agree he's young - but he's no elite central midfielder.
He is not young and he's certainly not elite.The feck are you on about? He's young by the most important standard of all. Elite central midfielders.