Sandikan
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Now, now you must be "imagining" itOh come on, we don’t need to talk about his brother and Raiola. His personal quotes have been bad enough!
Now, now you must be "imagining" itOh come on, we don’t need to talk about his brother and Raiola. His personal quotes have been bad enough!
it will be great to finally break out of this toxic vicious circle and replace him with a player who always give maximum effort at the very least.It has nothing to do with performance.
Pogba has consistently disrespected the club and we have been in a holding pattern with him for years.
feck off with this bollocks.Nonsense, Maguire has put in loads of performances this season that deserved him being dropped let alone booed. Leaving at the end of the season has got nothing to do with it. Pogba's a black player with fancy haircuts and has been an easy target for United fans for years. We all know how it works. Maguire has been shit for years, he's the captain, got into bother with the police abroad and been responsible for more goals conceded...yet nothing.
Help me make it make sense.
You said constant, those come from one interview. December 7 2020.Just 3 quotes I found with 3 mins of googling. Unless your definition of constantly is every week, he's definitely made these sort of comments repeatedly, especially in the last 3 years.
"I think the best soluton for both Pogba and Man Utd is that he goes in the next transfer window...risk losing him on a free transfer as it's not his intention to extend his contract"
"Better to be straight up about it. Paul is unhappy at Manchester united...he has to move...he has a contract that expires in 18months"
"PP is unhappy...unable to express himself...needs a new team, a change of air"
Nothing to do with the fact he’s our most expensive player ever and he’s either shite or injured most of the time.Nonsense, Maguire has put in loads of performances this season that deserved him being dropped let alone booed. Leaving at the end of the season has got nothing to do with it. Pogba's a black player with fancy haircuts and has been an easy target for United fans for years. We all know how it works. Maguire has been shit for years, he's the captain, got into bother with the police abroad and been responsible for more goals conceded...yet nothing.
Help me make it make sense.
Steady on ffs. Maguire was subbed in a huge CL game and the crowd celebrated. It was damning and hard to watch. Pogba has disrespected the club endlessly and is finally likely to doddle off this summer. Maguire has been equally rubbish, worse this season, but has never played the club and fans for fools at the say so of his shitty agent. I personally wouldnt boo pogba, but bringing his race into it says more about you than fans giving him shit after years of his circusNonsense, Maguire has put in loads of performances this season that deserved him being dropped let alone booed. Leaving at the end of the season has got nothing to do with it. Pogba's a black player with fancy haircuts and has been an easy target for United fans for years. We all know how it works. Maguire has been shit for years, he's the captain, got into bother with the police abroad and been responsible for more goals conceded...yet nothing.
Help me make it make sense.
The fans have been a doormat for far too long. Fans have let the standards slip as much as any other party.I really dislike the lack of team spirit surronding the entire club. The fans should be better. Even if the players are not. The fans are the club. The players are not.
Raiola trying to pimp him out to City in his first season or 2 with us I believe was the start. Loved the way Pep confirmed it, rubbing the fat cnuts nose in it, and yet we should be 100% behind our players? Feck that. If they can't give 100% to the club then they deserve nothing from the fans.There's been many examples of these sort of soundbites from Raiola. I found 3 separate ones in the post above.
Are you actually joking?Played well in the first half when we had the ball. Doesn't deserve to be booed, classless stuff. What exactly has he done wrong other than being less than the player we hoped he'd be?
These are just the quick fire quotes I found.You said constant, those come from one interview. December 7 2020.
I believe that I remember at least two other. But that doesn't constitute constant. And two of them are after being already targetted by fans in 2018.
I want him out for several reasons and one of them is that most of you are absolutely toxic, it's not good for you, the club and the player.
Why should the fans respect a player that obviously has no respect for the club? At least 3 times he's asked to get away that we know of since he's been with us. Does that sound like a committed player to you?You said constant, those come from one interview. December 7 2020.
I believe that I remember at least two other. But that doesn't constitute constant. And two of them are after being already targetted by fans in 2018.
I want him out for several reasons and one of them is that most of you are absolutely toxic, it's not good for you, the club and the player.
Hopefully that they need to put some effort inWonder what Mejbri and Garnacho was thinking hearing the boes? Other friends in the team? Tchouameni?
I really dislike the lack of team spirit surronding the entire club. The fans should be better. Even if the players are not. The fans are the club. The players are not.
Constantly? No. I said it before and it applies to all french players, the french press are scumbags and they ask impossible questions when they have the players at Clairefontaine, Pogba always give a political answer which has sometimes been translated in the strangest ways, it was particularly bad when Zidane was at Madrid. His brother isn't constantly in the media but when he is, he gets the same questions and talk absolute nonsense.These are just the quick fire quotes I found.
You don't think Raiola, his brother and Pogba himself have constantly been at it over the last 3 years?
I used to be his biggest defender, but even I eventually realised that what he offers on the pitch simply isn't anywhere near what it should be, and not for the whole Raiola circus behind it.
Even today he did his mad signature move of pointlessly holding someone off, to show his ball skills, and then lost it, right on the edge of our area.
hopefully realise what standards need to be and be held accountable for utter pisstake. That goes for a handful of current players. How can there be team spirit when the manager himself yesterday pretty much said these players are twatsWonder what Mejbri and Garnacho was thinking hearing the boes? Other friends in the team? Tchouameni?
I really dislike the lack of team spirit surronding the entire club. The fans should be better. Even if the players are not. The fans are the club. The players are not.
You know full well Pogba be on a new 500K a week contract soon, and then it'll be rinse, and repeat for the next 5 years of mediocrity.Can't wait for him to feck off. Who can blame the fans for being sick of the sight of him really?
For 6 years?Think we need to take into account he is fasting.
Playing him in the CDM role isn't really the smartest either, he has no defensive idea of positioning. I don't think he didn't try but he's definitely half the player he used to be.
No way is he worth signing on again for huge money.
Do Kante, Mahrez etc get this excuse?Tweet
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ToucheFor 6 years?
Personally I don't mind players wanting to leave if they have a reason for it, I don't expect or demand unconditional will to remain at United. The only time where it bothered me was with Ronaldo because we were at the top and he decided to join what I viewed as a lesser team, that one hurt my feelings. But that doesn't apply to Pogba, Di Maria, Lukaku or De Gea or any current players because as someone that has invested a lot of time following United, I know that the management team messed up and I don't expect players that have the ability to join better run clubs to just roll with it, I'm actually a lot more suspiscious of players that wouldn't think about leaving and are happy to just collect paychecks.Why should the fans respect a player that obviously has no respect for the club? At least 3 times he's asked to get away that we know of since he's been with us. Does that sound like a committed player to you?
Nobody can shut Raiola up. If some irrelevant quotes by his agent is the main argument then for me that confirms he hasn't done anything to warrant booing. I'm not saying he should stay, just that the boo-boys were classless.Are you actually joking?
So all the stuff with Raiola is fine then? He could have shut him up any time he wanted. He didn't.
Raiola came out and dropped bombshells on the eve of a Manchester Derby and also a crucial CL game Vs Leipzig.
Pogba can feck off and anyone who defends this fraud can join him. He's been a huge flop.
Lets be honest the first few years were way better than this.For 6 years?
Also hugely injury prone.Physically, he's actually really weak. His running power is so low and has very little pace etc.
All he does is try to throw a leg between the man and the ball to draw a foul and all players in the league just nick the ball off him.
Like, I really don't get what attributes he has besides from a neat pass or the occasional cross field ball under no pressure.
Absolutely the player can. All he needs to do is tell him to shut up. The player is in charge and not the other way about.Nobody can shut Raiola up. If some irrelevant quotes by his agent is the main argument then for me that confirms he hasn't done anything to warrant booing. I'm not saying he should stay, just that the boo-boys were classless.
What happened with support the team? Players? Ah, i get it, it goes only for those who you choose that deserve supportAre you actually joking?
So all the stuff with Raiola is fine then? He could have shut him up any time he wanted. He didn't.
Raiola came out and dropped bombshells on the eve of a Manchester Derby and also a crucial CL game Vs Leipzig.
Pogba can feck off and anyone who defends this fraud can join him. He's been a huge flop.
You taking the piss? These lazy players who don't care have been getting supported unconditionally for years. About time fans stop being soft and boo the ones who deserve it, just like other clubs doWhat happened with support the team? Players? Ah, i get it, it goes only for those who you choose that deserve support
I was being sarcastic towards that poster who has history about talking about "support" and calling out us who wanted Ole out.You taking the piss? These lazy players who don't care have been getting supported unconditionally for years. About time fans stop being soft and boo the ones who deserve it, just like other clubs do
Nah I disagree. He came for 90m price tag and dubbed one of the best midfielders on the planet. He hasn't delivered. The booing was frustration built up over 6 years.Nobody can shut Raiola up. If some irrelevant quotes by his agent is the main argument then for me that confirms he hasn't done anything to warrant booing. I'm not saying he should stay, just that the boo-boys were classless.
Finally a eureka moment.What happened with support the team? Players? Ah, i get it, it goes only for those who you choose that deserve support
Pogba could. He's Pogba's mouthpiece. He wouldn't be spouting off against Pogba's will. Pogba says the same himself every time he joins up with France.Nobody can shut Raiola up. If some irrelevant quotes by his agent is the main argument then for me that confirms he hasn't done anything to warrant booing. I'm not saying he should stay, just that the boo-boys were classless.
Yep, this pretty much sums up the issue, and things will always boil over when collective performances are as shit as they have been latelyI didn't boo but can understand those who did. He's put in half arsed performances and flirted with a move away for years; he can't expect unconditional support.