I'm not the biggest Pogba fan out there, but that was one helluva performance! Yes, he was a little sloppy at times in the first half, but his passes are just world class. The first lobbed assist to Bruno was mouth watering, and the assist to Greenwood was Xavi-esque. That's the thing with Pogba; at his very best, he's Scholes, Viera, Yaya and Zidane rolled into one. He's a unique footballer, but unfortunately he seems to occupy a unique role on the pitch. Today he was terrific.
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No - it's been pretty much universal praise.
The problem isn't United's desire (or United fans' desire) to keep the player, it's the player's desire (or lack thereof) to stay. His agent is adamant that Pogba is not happy at United, won't be signing a new deal and wants to leave at the earliest available opportunity. There's not much that the club can do about that to be fair.
This is a fair assessment. As others have said, he's had 'better' games before where he was more influential playing as one of the two, where he'd obviously also have a lot more of the ball. Today however, just shows how sublime he is in the open field. He made those 'easy' assists with inch perfect and cold blooded execution.The issue will always be when he has to play in a two against a resiliant team that will press him and if we are set up poorly/have bad movement.
Good game today
I think the left footed pass to Fred was just as good as the pass to Greenwood.Yet RedCafe members will tell you Pogba is unprofessional, a bad influence & so on. . .
Don’t think he had a particularly great game today personally, but yea, he obviously had some sublime contributions.
I still hope that we can find the right CDM that enables the Pogba and Bruno partnership.
Those two are just too scary together for opponents.
Those two are just too scary together for opponents.
Where does this myth keep coming from? I don’t think anyone has said such. These are the common complaints:
- inconsistent
- what position should he play?
- agent continually saying that he wants to leave
- coming out of contract; sign or sell. No one wants to lose him again for free
They do ?
I love the re-writing of history on here. Especially when it comes to Pogba. Just randomly post something completely off the mark. Well done.
Completely agree. Pogba was one of our best players last year. His impact on games is completely ignored by many on here. Today’s game will be forgotten in about 2-3 weeks as well.
Ok lads, I’m more than happy to allow you to retract your posts. . .
This thread spanning 100+ pages is symptomatic of the Cafe & the analysis of Pogba.
Your heads are literally buried up your arses if you haven’t seen posters call him those things & more.
I’m not saying all posters do but far too many do, I’ve seen you both in more than enough threads to act like those comments aren’t happening.
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Today showed what I think most of us know. In the PL he’s best not in the pivot as a CM and if you can give him freedom he can produce world class displays.
Of course with a fully fit squad that causes selection headaches but Im all for that kind of headache.
We have Sancho/Pogba as wide creators and Rashford/Greenwood as wide finishers with Dan James as a wide work horse. Good mix.
It now makes far more sense why we signed DVB because we’re not going to be using Pogba in the midfield 2.
Of course with a fully fit squad that causes selection headaches but Im all for that kind of headache.
We have Sancho/Pogba as wide creators and Rashford/Greenwood as wide finishers with Dan James as a wide work horse. Good mix.
It now makes far more sense why we signed DVB because we’re not going to be using Pogba in the midfield 2.
Exactly. Guy was one of our most consistent last year, only behind Luke Shaw. I genuinely think a considerable amount of people here don't watch football. Also, this exchange on reddit made me chuckle because it rings true:
Pogba will go into double pivot, not play as well then morons will say he is inconsistent because he can’t score and assists from double pivot
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The funniest fans to me are the ones who claim we won't need to replace him.
We don't have any players that can do the passes he can. That'll have to be replaced with a world class player.
Their memories fail them so they usually rely on stats to help determine quality, without any context added.
This thing with Mino is that I'm sure he and Pogba are contractually bound so in a lot of instances, his hands are tied. Add to the fact he will almost always request a huge fee for himself then it is no wonder contract talks with Pogba's representatives can drag out. He only ever seems to open his mouth when it is renewal time, so maybe this time we are standing firm on what would be his last big pay packet with Paul. Paul himself has shown nothing but professionalism whilst being here.
Apologies if I'm wrong about bolded, but surely this is the case with agents? Meaning to get rid would directly affect Paul's finances.
I have been a critic before, that today was sensational, please if he carries this form forwards for the whole season it'll be really something
One of his best games for Utd
I mean it's one of the best games from a player at Ole Trafford ever.
No United player has ever got 4 assists in a single game in the premier league!
Nah.
One of his worst games for Utd?
I would say it’s one of his best playing in that particular role. At his best he dominates the whole middle of the pitch though.
Well I guess each game has to be one or the other.
People want him sold .
He is top player. I don't care if he "really really really doesn't want to be here". He is our main playmaker. Just give him new contract
.He is top player. I don't care if he "really really really doesn't want to be here". He is our main playmaker. Just give him new contract
Nah you can have just average games.
Seconded.
One of my Liverpool mates text me saying Pogba was different class today. But he's a fair lad not a deluded type. Still.
These are exactly my thoughts about him. Could we get in somebody who does the things he can do but on a more consistent basis? I don't know, maybe. But let's not kid ourselves and think we won't need to replace him if he goes. We absolutely will. Personally I have always hoped he will stay.
Or even just ‘good’ games. I think the eye-catching contributions made it a good game, but not Pogba at his very best for me. Nobody can get near him at his best.
4 assists and not even match fit obviously all top teams need depth to win titles and cups, having Pogba, Rashford, Sancho, Greenwood, Cavani, Martial, Bruno to rotate is superb. Perhaps this can be Pogba's best season, hopefully he can spend as an advanced playmaker like todayand perhaps sign a new contract. If not we should absolutely replace him with a creative player of his quality. Hopefully he can renew because at his best he's impossible to replace..
obviously all top teams need depth to win titles and cups, having Pogba, Rashford, Sancho, Greenwood, Cavani, Martial, Bruno to rotate is superb. Perhaps this can be Pogba's best season, hopefully he can spend as an advanced playmaker like todayand perhaps sign a new contract. If not we should absolutely replace him with a creative player of his quality. Hopefully he can renew because at his best he's impossible to replace..I fear for us to be too complacent and hope some average players like VDB or young inexperienced ones can immediately step up like Mejbri. We absolutely need to replace his creativity if he goes if we want to stay up there with the best, that is exactly how we beat all those small teams who can fluke some goal or two on their day but with Pogba Sancho, Greenwood, Bruno, Rashford etc... it's really hard to stop that many great players and goals will come and we will finally start rolling over the midtable teams and be more dominant against the big sides too.. Hopefully management realizes that..
So ‘attitude’ problem is not on your list?
He’s been said to have an attitude problem, ‘has to be the centre of attention’ and similar for many years, with little basis other than, I suspect, people assuming that should be the case based on what he looks like.
To think that was one of Pogba's best games for United, while also wishing he "did that on a more consistent basis" is paradoxical.
He played today like he normally plays, magical sometimes, sloppy occasionally - just this time this passes were met with good finishes or a good first touch, that's not normally the case.
On another day;
- Bruno's first goal is saved by the keeper or his first touch is sloppy.
- Mason's shot goes wide
- Bruno's second goal gets cleared off the line
- Fred's shot goes way over the bar.
You get the idea.
He played today like he normally plays, magical sometimes, sloppy occasionally - just this time this passes were met with good finishes or a good first touch, that's not normally the case.
On another day;
- Bruno's first goal is saved by the keeper or his first touch is sloppy.
- Mason's shot goes wide
- Bruno's second goal gets cleared off the line
- Fred's shot goes way over the bar.
You get the idea.
Whether he wants to leave or not, whether he will leave or not, the good thing about him is that he still plays the same
I suspect you were asleep for the last season.
Ole said he was affected by Covid for a while, Pogba also said it too. Some "fans" still believe and will always believe those were lies. Once Pogba was fully fit, he was consistently good last season
They have he rejected itPeople want him sold
He is top player. I don't care if he "really really really doesn't want to be here". He is our main playmaker. Just give him new contract
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