3 points. A game we would have drawn 1-1 had we not strengthened this summer.
Premier League Gameweek 3 fixtures (25th - 27th August 2018)
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BT presenter.. Liverpool beat Brighton 4-0 here last season so Brighton will be disappointed to have lost this one nil today.
KEOWN: Yes Liverpool were drawing these games last season so it's a good result.
Keown is on BT as well? He was on Football Focus on BBC today as wellProbably as good as result as we could hope for today.
Most would have expected a 4 or 5 nil smashfest.
Most would have expected a 4 or 5 nil smashfest.
Based on what, exactly?
Liverpool have had such an easy start. Who's their next oppo?
Even though you won this fixture 4-0 last year?
Pretty sure we just lost to Brighton...but let's move on.
Leicester and Tottenham away next.
Leicester without Vardy (presume his was a 3 match ban), which is typical.
Leicester away.
Its the let's find a way to say we've improved stage of the season regardless if there's proof there or not.
our chronic inability to keep a tight lead looks like its being vanquished this season
We beat them 5-1 and 4-0 last season before we strengthened.
That final chance for Brighton against us would've flown to the top left corner. That how shitty our luck has been.
All that happened was Salah scored. So same as last season.
They played Brighton at home. Brighton are much harder to beat at the AMEX. I think today they mentioned Brighton had only won 2 of their away Premier League fixtures last season.
I don't understand what you mean
It's 3 games in. I think you could easily have dropped points at Palace and here had a couple of things not gone your way, Gross gets a better contact on that header? 1-1.
It's too early to be saying what has/hasn't made a difference. Fabinho isn't even in the squad, Keita was 'meh' today, Shaqiri didn't come on and Alisson actually had a few dodgy moments. The save at the end was something you would expect from Mignolet or Karius.
The summer signings had little to do with the result today, IMO.
Won 2, drawn 5, lost 12. 11/57 points.
Brighton were 8th in the league on home form last season (behind the top 6 and Everton). Won 7, drawn 8, lost 4. 29/57 points.
Yep. Win the next 2, at Leicester and Tottingham, and we'll all sit a lot more nervously
The 1st rule of keeping with Karius and mingo is: always expect the unexpected
Not directly perhaps. But we seem mentally much resilient atm. Think Alisson instead of one of the others helps a lot with that.
Meh, can't really count United. I don't think we had any shots other than our goals, one a penalty. Against ambitious opposition, Brighton are an easy match
We’re capable of so much better than that. Some really mixed performances throughout.
Still three wins out of three with three clean sheets is nothing to moan about. The next two games will tell us more about this Liverpool team. Spurs battered us last season.
Still three wins out of three with three clean sheets is nothing to moan about. The next two games will tell us more about this Liverpool team. Spurs battered us last season.
Really? I thought you were rubbish today. Gave Brighton a couple of key opportunities (off the set piece, and the Gross header) late on. Similar to how you were last year, it's just Brighton didn't quite have the finishing touch. Didn't see much 'resilience' at all, you were barely under threat yet still came very close to drawing in a game where you smashed it last season.
I guess Karius/Mignolet could have messed it up, but most of the time they're expected to save that. Alisson would actually have made me nervous today as a CB, tried a few things which just weren't coming off and nearly made a horrible error. I honestly don't think we have anywhere near enough to go on yet to declare a shift in mentality for you, let's see how you get through a couple of tough away ties.
Our worst performance at home since January. And we won, with a clean sheet !
Oh well. Things can only get better from this.
Oh well. Things can only get better from this.
A quick look through your results last year and I count about 8 games where you won the game by a single goal. I don't think seeing out a single goal shows that it's been vanquished this season.
Just picked up few of them
*don't be angry guys for quoting you*
I actually turned it off at half time just assuming they’d win 4-0. Spoke too soon.For me, this level of performance from Liverpool seems to be the bare minimum, the base level. The off days and wild swings extremes of performance and consistency seems to be a thing of the past. If we are not at our lethal best, if things aren’t flowing, we still seem to be solid at least. And that is important.
Both City and Liverpool failed to impress today. Poorish performances. Makes United defeat last Sunday sort of understandable. Teams with many internationals are not in good form yet.
This kind of stuff is so wonderful. Let’s continue doing it: Salah made a better contact on that last shot, 2-1. Now it’s your turn again.
We’ve been the better side in each of our games and deserved to win all of them, even though we haven’t been playing that well. That’s the reality of it, but you can’t make up imaginary scenarios where our opponents convert their few chances but we still miss all of ours ffs.
Can we conclude that Brighton is actually a pretty decent side now?
Ok?
The point was you were no more decisive than you have been in the past. You gave your opponent an opportunity to equalise late on, and weren't able to make it comfortable. It was a nervy finish.
You deserved to win, all I'm saying is I don't see a different Liverpool to last season yet. You haven't shown some big mentality shift ... also, well done for being the 'better side' against West Ham, Brighton and Palace. That's to be expected.
We lost to them at the Amex. Brighton are usually awful away from home, they had the worst away record last season.
When Glenn Murray beat three Liverpool defenders in the penalty area and put the ball on the plate for Knockeart (who missed) it reminded me of Lindelof.
Brighton won't be any good until they get their first team on the pitch
Have you made the same deductions with City's 3 games yet ? Are they stronger this season, compared to the last one ? Also, what did you expect ? This was a premier league opponent and there will always be phases during 90 mins where even City would give chances. Doesn't really compute to us being stronger or weaker compared to last season. The new signings will take time to get used to our game, Fabinho hasn't even got up to pace yet. Same with Shaqiri.
The most important thing was the clean sheet. One game at a time, the performances will come.
Coutinho did the damage at the Amex. This time it was self-inflicted by Brighton.
Top teams need an orchestrator or playmaker. Gegenpressing only works when the opponents make a mistake (most likely but not always). Against a good passing team the pressing team burns themselves out chasing shadows.
Don't really watch us play, do you ? We press high and in phases. It results mostly with us being extremely proficient with possession, especially against teams who sit back. After Coutinho left last season, we actually scored more goals and became defensively solid. The 'orchestrator' is the system. Firmino drops deep, then Mane plays 10, then Salah plays CM (today). All 3 are capable of key passes and releasing the other 2. Plus, Keita and Wijnaldum look like massive improvements from last season's midfield. Creatively, we do not have a problem.
That Ref in the city game was something else. Handball goal for Wolves (no call from ref or linesman), Then the ref falls for Sterling's ridiculous dive on the free kick that tied it. Aguero also made an embarrassing attempt to win a penalty with an absolutely shameless dive and the ref correctly calls no penalty. But why in the hell wasn't Aguero booked for simulation? The Silva non call was also correct as Silva kicked the defenders foot. But I cant help but think the ref didn't know much about it. Anyway does the EPL actually think it was a good decision to not have VAR? Perhaps some genius at the league will actually suggest installing it for next year and perhaps retroactive banning or fining players for simulation finally?
Watching MOTD now, how did Aguero not get a card for diving
because there was contact, generally don't get booked even if there is the slightest bit of contact
I haven't made any deductions based on this season so far, that's my fecking point, it's far too early. What I'm saying is that you weren't so impressive in this game that people should be going 'proper contenders these!' - you were NOT very good, it was a relatively tame performance at home to Brighton. Three points? Great, but let's not pretend it's a sign of anything greater. We performed like crap against Newcastle away and came away with 3 points, nobody was out there saying it was the stuff of champions.
I dunno why you're talking about the new signings or acting as if I've said you're weaker than last season, I agree with all of that. My exact point is that people making big claims either way (based on these 3 games) is silly, we haven't seen anywhere near enough for that.
I think City will still piss the league, not based on these 3 games, but based on them running away with it last season. They're still the strongest team by far (in my opinion) despite them drawing away to Wolves. My honest view is that Liverpool will not challenge any more than United challenged last season, and I haven't seen anything from you thus far to make me question that. It's really that simple.
They're better equipped to play against the big teams than the small teams.
Face it, Liverpool play great football and started this season in blistering form.
I hope they don't win the league but it's looking likely that they will.