Yeah they pretty much immediately started having a go at the police.
Do you have a link to the other angle put of interest?
Protests following the killing of George Floyd
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Do you have a link to the other angle put of interest?
Come on, nobody here is the last word in facts. We're all just having a discussion. Park the "you make statements" bullshit.
There is plenty of education and awareness - things that were OK just 15 - 20 years ago when I left school are now absolutely not OK. The progress is fast. The changes are happening. We're all changing every day. (Mostly) younger people haven't had a moment to see the changes happening, because they haven't lived long enough to see it. I doubtless wasn't aware at the time of the changes that took place from the mid 80s until the early 2000s when I was growing up. The things my kids and nephews talk about nowadays are nothing like what I talked about. It's a different world.
There is no pressure to apply. People know. We're taught it, we see it, it's night and day to how it was when I was in school.
Being angry about the world doesn't mean you start vandalising some old statues though. It's pathetic.
Most of these people are drunk. The man being interviewed by the sky reporter does not seem to know why he is there again.
Honest question from someone not from the UK. What exactly are they doing here? I understood the police are trying to protect the statue that they also want to protect, so they attack the police to protect the statue themselves or what?
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Love it! I bet none of them even get the irony. Yet the media and government will try and have us all believe it's the left that are disrespecting our history.Defending Churchill's statue while throwing at Nazi salutes... Jesus wept
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Its not a fight I just find it odd you can say no one cares about a topic you don't even know about and yet people obviously care because its a global discussion....
Speed of progress is a matter of perspective yes its not the same as 20 years ago but that doesn't mean there are not plenty of things which still need tackling
Also there is plenty of pressure to apply and we are not taught it at all in school. I think it is best if you educate yourself on the topic.
Was it also pathetic when the Berlin wall was vandalised?
I see NonceCon London 2020 is going well.
Well done.
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Auditioning for West Side Story.
No comments from Boris, Patel etc on this lot yet? Good people I guess.
So now asking a question is an issue? right... lets leave it there.
Wonder if any of these nazi guys will get the tasers, horses, tear gas treatment?
I’ve no idea either. It’s pathetic
Nazi salutes while protecting Churchill. You could not make it up. Hope the UK press highlights this irony, won't hold my breath.
I’m not defending these people they are morons. But there’s no Nazi salutes there, they’re clearly just walking towards the police with both arms up being big and hard asking for a fight.
theres enough shit without making stuff up to add fuel to either side. As that what it seems to be these days, sides
theres enough shit without making stuff up to add fuel to either side. As that what it seems to be these days, sides
What are you watching?I’m not defending these people they are morons. But there’s no Nazi salutes there, they’re clearly just walking towards the police with both arms up being big and hard asking for a fight.
theres enough shit without making stuff up to add fuel to either side. As that what it seems to be these days, sides
You need to watch it again mateI’m not defending these people they are morons. But there’s no Nazi salutes there, they’re clearly just walking towards the police with both arms up being big and hard asking for a fight.
theres enough shit without making stuff up to add fuel to either side. As that what it seems to be these days, sides
LIVE: Protesters gather In London's Whitehall to "defend" statues
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Ok, I had watched it a couple of times, I can see a bloke clearly doing it now midway through video with a blue T-shirt on. It does just look like usually football fans abroad looking for a fight behaviour.
Im just disgusted watching that video, I couldn’t quite believe it when the camera panned around. Wtf is going on
Call me crazy. But I’m not...entirely convinced...this is about statues.
Fawlty Towers ?
Euro 2020 would have started yesterday, this is pent up thuggery that would have been reserved for that...
Maybe they’re learning about all the history from the statues.
They were probably shouting about 'caring' for the police last week.
I fear for the US now after this is going on in London, if what happened across the US over the last 3 weeks has ignited the copy cat vandalism from the far left, seeing these images might ignite the far right, and that is a far worst prospect than a few Engerlander thugs off their face
What's all this with statues? Have people started going for history classes recently?
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Interesting thread. The knuckle draggers are out in force.
I obviously don’t disagree with the notion that violence and vandalism doesn’t help anything. But your logic here is underpinned by the idea that as long as change is happening, people shouldn’t protest and let natural change run its course.
That’s what I disagree with. Why should the current rate of change be acceptable on matters like these in today’s society? Protesting shouldn’t be violent but this is damn well something worth protesting because what it does do is raise awareness and focus efforts to enact change. Just because that change is happening doesn’t mean we shouldn’t aim to make it happen faster.
Protests like these don’t directly achieve things by virtue of protesting but they shape how things are addressed because it causes people to actively think and act on something they otherwise would only passively consider.
I don’t get the whole statues thing, I’m not sure how much that’s helping, but I don’t think the focus of the vast majority of the protest is to removing statues.
They'll be on Twitter tonight proclaiming how the police attacked them and stopped them going to defend "the nation's history", and left the earlier BLM demos alone.
By Monday they'll be proclaiming themselves martyrs to the fascist cause, and Tommy Robinson or some similar twat will get arrested and become a lone beacon for truth, justice and British values when he appears in court. The Sun and The Mail will send people to interview him and Facebook will be awash with poorly disguised EDL gofundmes.
I'm yet so see the horses come out to control the crowd...
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Apparently the prick in the black t-shirt has previously been charged with terrorist offences and prohibited from attending any protests. Looks like they might have their martyr soon enough.
Imagine being a racist looking at that group of people and thinking "Yep we're superior to everyone else", talk about deluded.
Sorry if it might have already been posted, but its worth it as its a good summary of the fckery of both sides...
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Brilliant John Cleese! A few in this thread could doing with watching that
This has nothing to do with statues, no.
It's a culture war and the utter cnuts trashing the streets of the capital of the country they claim to love in their fecking piss soaked Ben Sherman polo shirts out of their tits on gak are the emboldened far right underbelly of the UK.
For a long time the far right in Britain struggled to properly organise and mobilise because the UK was unique in that the strong piss streak of nationalism that ran through the country was undermined by the fact that the Nazis were the enemy and that created a strange cultural barrier.
No more. Open Nazi salutes would have been the preserve of Chelsea fans and their ilk and seen as fringe. Now white supremacy in Britain has aligned under the Brexit banner and our government of Etonian feudal lords and nouveaux cultural conservatives have enabled this.
This is the face of post Brexit Britain.
Unfortunately, 100% right
By the way when he said that the EDL tweeted their agreement
You’ll forgive me for not giving two shits about what he has to say