Protests following the killing of George Floyd

[MackRobinson]

Yes, non-threatening citizens are killed by cops in USA. What I don't think happens, and pretty sure what he was saying is, you don't randomly get picked on by cops. There will be a reason you are pulled over and potentially killed as a consequence, innocent or not. That may be a reason unknown to the innocent victim.

If that's what he meant that is a completely nothing statement. "Innocent people are shot for a reason." Ok, but that's not a real argument.

There will be outlier cases, as with anything. Countless video evidence? That's a bit exaggerated, no? There's about 1000 people killed by cops in the US each year.

You should actually look at the evidence of police brutality in this data set (just from the protests).
Secondly, of those people killed by cops, this study says only 83% of them are armed. Not sure what outlier you are talking about.

It wasn't supposed to start at minute 8, that happened unknowingly. You did however watch 50 minutes of the video, and from that compare these two to Candance Owens.

When I say sound like Candace Owens, I mean they argue the "what" instead of the "why". It's fairly easy to cite raw numbers, but as economists, you would think they would be running regressions on this data.

 

[Zlatan 7]

Literally this, people have spent the last week telling us that the U.K. isn’t a racist country....

Are you going to use those thugs to tar or speak for all of the British people?

just as the other side was shut down for accusing the protestors as being rioters and looters?

yes there’s racists, we know that.

 

[Berbasbullet]

Are you going to use those thugs to tar or speak for all of the British people?

just as the other side was shut down for accusing the protestors as being rioters and looters?

yes there’s racists, we know that.

I didn’t say all brits are racist did I, however I worded it badly so I will edit accordingly.

 

[Bobski]

Any semi accurate numbers around on the people involved in this today? All a bit depressing, but also a spectacular own goal for those creating rumbles against the previous weekend protests. No-one in their right mind wants to be associated with vermin like these EDL types, and those who do are no loss.

 

[F-Red]

Yet we’ve had plenty of people telling us the UK doesn’t have a racism issue.

Yep, i'm really looking forward to seeing how those clowns try to justify that view, considering the oxygen thieves we're witnessing in London today.

 

[Zlatan 7]

I didn’t say all brits are racist did I, however I worded it badly so I will edit accordingly.

Just looked like pointless point scoring.

these idiots shouldn’t represent anyone

 

[F-Red]

Any semi accurate numbers around on the people involved in this today?

Does it make any difference though? Clearly one, is one too many based on what we're witnessing today.

 

[berbatrick]

I'm just surprised Brits are targeting Churchill. I thought he was one of your most beloved leaders?

have you been stuck in a time-loop for 5 days?

 

[Tibs]

Last week crying about the R Rate, and the Police being attacked. All of that out of the window today then.

 

[Berbasbullet]

Just looked like pointless point scoring.

these idiots shouldn’t represent anyone

They shouldn’t....

So what exactly is the protest about then? I still don’t understand. It’s obviously a counter protest to the BLM movement, so what does it stand for?

 

[fergieisold]

Absolute state of that lot.

Christ...what the hell is wrong with them. It’s been very amusing watching them turn up to fight BLM. Presumably they didn’t get the memo about it being cancelled.

 

[Bobski]

Does it make any difference though? Clearly one, is one too many based on what we're witnessing today.

Yes, we would both rather that this type of mentality could be consigned to the past. Unfortunately that is not the case, and well, fewer is better.

Anyway, had a quick look on BBC(been working today, so catching up) and they state hundreds, some of the pictures look significantly more, composition of the crowd looks all too similar to the gangs of thugs who follow England to international tournaments, desperate for a chance to smash somewhere up. Charming group, high IQ's abound.

 

[SalfordRed18]

UK not a racist country

Must have imagined all the times I was called a nigger, a black cnut etc or even lesser micro-aggressions like asking where I'm really from.

Must have imagined the scenes today in London too.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Yes, we would both rather that this type of mentality could be consigned to the past. Unfortunately that is not the case, and well, fewer is better.

Anyway, had a quick look on BBC(been working today, so catching up) and they state hundreds, some of the pictures look significantly more, composition of the crowd looks all too similar to the gangs of thugs who follow England to international tournaments, desperate for a chance to smash somewhere up. Charming group, high IQ's abound.

They gave up their education to become racists.

 

[Zlatan 7]

They shouldn’t....

So what exactly is the protest about then? I still don’t understand.

I’ve no idea, mindless morons using statues as an excuse to fight and goad police? I don’t think there’s a protest is there?

 

[PoTMS]

Disappointed. All it took was one fecker to argue about Spurs/West Ham/Millwall and it'd kick off.

 

[Dr. Dwayne]

Seems more like good old fashioned rioting to me.

 

[Penna]

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That's absolutely vile, it's a memorial to PC Palmer who was murdered by terrorists.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

That's absolutely vile, it's a memorial to PC Palmer who was murdered by terrorists.

You're presuming he is capable of reading.

 

[decorativeed]

What are these people protesting against exactly?

Thought. Progress. Discourse. To name just a few.

 

[decorativeed]

For me that is the saddest thing about today’s world. There is no middle ground. It’s all about extremes of both left and right. Might as well expunge compromise and conciliation from the dictionaries. They are defunct concepts.

Of course there's still a middle ground. Ironically, I'd say that if anything you've taken a rather extreme view of it all.

It shouldn't need to be pointed out, but not everyone who attended Black Lives Matter protests attacked the police or looted shops. Only a small minority of people take things to extreme levels.

 

[starman]

UK not a racist country

Must have imagined all the times I was called a nigger, a black cnut etc or even lesser micro-aggressions like asking where I'm really from.

Must have imagined the scenes today in London too.

I would say that statement applies to the majority. No country is immune from racist groups or individuals.

 

[Smores]

The real face of 'all lives matter' folk. It's unfortunate for you lot that some of your fellows forget to hide the racism.

 

[e.cantona]

If that's what he meant that is a completely nothing statement. "Innocent people are shot for a reason." Ok, but that's not a real argument.

If the police are looking at you, for whatever reason, you should comply. 100%. Every time. You don't know what information they've got. They don't know who you are, if you're armed or not. For them every encounter may be life and death. If you resist arrest, the police do not know what your intentions are.

You should actually look at the evidence of police brutality in this data set (just from the protests).
Secondly, of those people killed by cops, this study says only 83% of them are armed. Not sure what outlier you are talking about.

Outlier as in racist motivation and or the intent was to murder an innocent person, etc. As above, the police wont know what the person of interest is going to do or if they are innocent. The police in USA are armed. I belive most living in the US will be aware of this. There are also 100s of millions of firearms in the US. The police won't know who's armed or not. They pretty much have to assume the worst.

When I say sound like Candace Owens, I mean they argue the "what" instead of the "why". It's fairly easy to cite raw numbers, but as economists, you would think they would be running regressions on this data.

I assumed you ment it like "pseudo" intellectual.
Both of them being respected professors in their fields, and both of them having been in the public discussing matters like these for years, I give them the benefit of the doubt on most things they state as factual. If something sound too incredible and others I tend to belive start talking against them on facts, I'll rethink.
This is also a one hour conversation. You'll be often disappointed if you always expect what you deem most important to be covered, and how you want it. Take a look at some of their many other conversations.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

have you been stuck in a time-loop for 5 days?

Have I?

 

[Hammerfell]

Have I?

It was an odd post considering that's all the discussion has been about for the last few days.

 

[Ludens the Red]

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[Olly Gunnar Solskjær]

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[sun_tzu]

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I think most people who support edl will think their boys did a cracking job of defending Churchill and any trouble was the polices fault

Blm will frame it opposite and in the middle there is a bunch of people thinking ffs there is a pandemic why is nobody social distancing

 

[RoadTrip]

What the actual feck is wrong with these people

 

[Rado_N]

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They’re so ‘ard

 

[DomesticTadpole]

What the actual feck is wrong with these people

They are 'ard. @Rado_N got there before me.

 

[Olly Gunnar Solskjær]

They’re so ‘ard

They are 'ard.

 

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[DomesticTadpole]

Could also say it is how you behave when you have a minuscule d***.

 

[Olly Gunnar Solskjær]

I prefer simply calling them massive waste of oxygen cretins of the highest order.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

I prefer simply calling them massive waste of oxygen cretins of the highest order.

You are a gentleman.

 

[Ludens the Red]

I think most people who support edl will think their boys did a cracking job of defending Churchill and any trouble was the polices fault

Blm will frame it opposite and in the middle there is a bunch of people thinking ffs there is a pandemic why is nobody social distancing

Yeah they probably will but the whole country have seen them for what they truly are. In particular those ultra patriotic folk who tried to make it into a race thing, well there were no black or brown people committing these acts today.
Nazi salutes, pissing on the memorial of a copper who fought against a terrorist. Bullying people having picnics. Blm won’t be “framing anything”. Today was as clear as day.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Yeah they probably will but the whole country have seen them for what they truly are. In particular those ultra patriotic folk who tried to make it into a race thing, well there were no black or brown people committing these acts today.
Nazi salutes, pissing on the memorial of a copper who fought against a terrorist. Bullying people having picnics. Blm won’t be “framing anything”. Today was as clear as day.

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This bloke stood out like a sore thumb. The exception that proves the rule.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

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This bloke stood out like a sore thumb. The exception that proves the rule.

If I were him I am not sure I would want my photo all over the internet.