Sparky_Hughes
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straight out of the SAF playbook, Ole got this pot on.
straight out of the SAF playbook, Ole got this pot on.
I agree - and furthermore if Pogba does go this summer we will get a hell of a lot more money than if it was the Jose approach.I'm just gonna say that whatever criticism people will level at Ole for his tactical setups I don't think there can be any debate that he's one of the best man managers in the game. In good periods, bad periods, indifferent periods, our players have always been pulling in the same direction and have been playing for Ole, that much is clear. He's clearly learnt many things from Sir Alex when it comes managing different personalities, but he hasn't simply copied the great man, instead, he's taken that knowledge and brought it into his own style. I think its the single biggest reason we have seen such a huge upturn in our form and I'm not sure he gets the credit he deserves for the transformation it has had on many of the players.
On Pogba, the way he has handled the situation and the media has just been exceptional. He hasn't bought any of the bait, he hasn't thrown his player under the bus, instead he's clearly had a word with Pogba behind closed doors and challenged him to do his job for the team and now that's paying dividends. If this situation occurred under Mourinho, Pogba would have been cast aside, never to feature again and Jose would have done his typical media hatchet job to ensure the fans side with him in the whole incident, thus creating more division amongst players and fans.
Don't think there is any authentic info publically on this, but I am sure the club hasn't offered a contract extension to him. They must have (rightfully) become wary after his stinkers since the new season. Even now, if he continues his good form, I am not even sure if giving him a contract extension would be the right decision. He has shown himself to be a player who downs tools quite easily.So what is the actual status of his contract? I mean have united offered him and extension and he hasn't replied? or won't there be any negotiations at all, as in he's made up his mind?
If all this certainty is based on Raiola's comments, it wouldn't be the first time he actually ran his mouth off, would it? i mean he could also stand to make a healthy commission if pogba sings a new deal.
The way I see it, throwing players under the bus (which many of our fans seem to encourage) only ever serves to boost the manager's ego. There is nothing to gain from airing dirty laundry in public so the way Ole handles these things is just fantastic as it must be tempting sometimes to have a jab. Agree on the transfer fees received too, perhaps a contributing factor into why Jose never seemed to be able to shift our players for any money.I agree - and furthermore if Pogba does go this summer we will get a hell of a lot more money than if it was the Jose approach.
he managed the exits of Lukaku and Sanchez exceptionally as well.
true. Every chance it’s to flush United out and get a better deal this summer.I don't believe a word Raiola says when it comes to transfers of his players. He is always playing an angle and playing politics. Or should I say politricks
you are right, very little to gain from it. In any other role, a manager who does this would be sanctioned.The way I see it, throwing players under the bus (which many of our fans seem to encourage) only ever serves to boost the manager's ego. There is nothing to gain from airing dirty laundry in public so the way Ole handles these things is just fantastic as it must be tempting sometimes to have a jab. Agree on the transfer fees received too, perhaps a contributing factor into why Jose never seemed to be able to shift our players for any money.
Exactly. He desires to force |united's hand. Either to make them offer a new deal or a sell on his terms. Its best to plain ignore him and keep ones own counsel like United are doing. That's why I've found the constant back lash against Pobga as so silly. It should be obvious to anyone that since Pogba has only just returned to fitness after a long lay off last term and getting corvid this season a United would have been very stupid to offer him a new deal before seeing whether at his current age he could recapture his best form and fitness for a sustained period. There is really no good reason to rush into selling him or extending him till he has.true. Every change it’s to flush United out and get a better deal this summer.
If it’s him then the replacement is there. I meant more that it’s not like he will go and not be replaced. Even if it is DVB, that’s fine. He’s hardly been able to contribute anything so far this season so will be equivalent of a new signing.Where is this faith coming from? Sadly I think VDB is that replacement and that is very underwhelming.
It's not surprising, he's probably gauging how close we are to winning trophies, it'll be a big gamble for his career whatever he chooses. If he thinks we're close I can see him wanting to stay, if we badly tail off then he'll probably look elsewhere.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...d-agree-decision-midfielders-future-hold.html
Guess this means we’ll just have to listen to speculation both ways until the end of the season, hopefully Raiola shuts the feck up and doesn’t rock the boat in any way so United and Pogba can genuinely go all out for the title as Pogba at his absolute best added to Fernandes could actually win us the title.
Agreed, his man management is exceptional. He's also growing into the press conferences I feel.I'm just gonna say that whatever criticism people will level at Ole for his tactical setups I don't think there can be any debate that he's one of the best man managers in the game. In good periods, bad periods, indifferent periods, our players have always been pulling in the same direction and have been playing for Ole, that much is clear. He's clearly learnt many things from Sir Alex when it comes managing different personalities, but he hasn't simply copied the great man, instead, he's taken that knowledge and brought it into his own style. I think its the single biggest reason we have seen such a huge upturn in our form and I'm not sure he gets the credit he deserves for the transformation it has had on many of the players.
On Pogba, the way he has handled the situation and the media has just been exceptional. He hasn't bought any of the bait, he hasn't thrown his player under the bus, instead he's clearly had a word with Pogba behind closed doors and challenged him to do his job for the team and now that's paying dividends. If this situation occurred under Mourinho, Pogba would have been cast aside, never to feature again and Jose would have done his typical media hatchet job to ensure the fans side with him in the whole incident, thus creating more division amongst players and fans.
Very occasionally I do think there is something to be gained from it. If a player has not been pulling his weight in training or has done something that disrespects the club, then publicly criticising them can send a message that the behaviour in question is unacceptable and will not be tolerated. However in general I strongly agree; frequently criticising players has always struck me as a lack of wisdom and temperament. I think the way Ole handles these things is one of his best qualities.The way I see it, throwing players under the bus (which many of our fans seem to encourage) only ever serves to boost the manager's ego. There is nothing to gain from airing dirty laundry in public so the way Ole handles these things is just fantastic as it must be tempting sometimes to have a jab. Agree on the transfer fees received too, perhaps a contributing factor into why Jose never seemed to be able to shift our players for any money.
I pray for the day that FIFA limits or totally removes the influence of dirty fat ugly slimeballs like this guy.Tweet
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I’m done with this virus. Injured for 5 minutes and already talking shite through his fat feck of an agent.
Anyone who knows anything about Raiola surely realises he’s no fecking yes man servant.Absolute bollocks I think. He acts on behalf of his clients, what he puts out there is calculated and will always be okayed first by the player.
agreed. Every word, statement or post won’t be ok’d by Pogba.Anyone who knows anything about Raiola surely realises he’s no fecking yes man servant.
He says what he thinks he should, he knows the mood of the player and if the player don’t like it, he can find a new agent. They don’t though, they know exactly what they are getting when they hire him.
He's Batman.‘I will do what I have to do not in front of you, but in the shadows, as I have always done.’
What's that supposed to mean?
Means he's a sneaky cnut.‘I will do what I have to do not in front of you, but in the shadows, as I have always done.’
What's that supposed to mean?
With a plot twist like that M.Night Shylaman would be proudMedia loves this guy. Triggers our base every time he opens his mouth. So done with it. Cant wait till pogba signs a new deal and we continue this dance every window until he retires at the feckin club.
He's Batman.
He's Batman.
Yeah that feels like it would be best for everyoneIf we can get shot of him and pick up a proper deep lying playmaker / defensive midfielder we should see it as a good move for us.
Great talent but not worth the hassle every few months with his agent.