RAWK Goes into Meltdown 2014/2015 - The "We go again" Edition
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In before the sycophantic RAWK poems start flooding in.
"To a Scouse" by Robert Burns
Wee sleekit, cowering, tim'rous player,
Punching a DJ's in your nature,
No need nah start awa sae glum,
You slipped and fecked your title run.
"To a Scouse" by Robert Burns
Wee sleekit, cowering, tim'rous player,
Punching a DJ's in your nature,
No need nah start awa sae glum,
You slipped and fecked your title run.
I don't know better thread to as this. Do anybody have a picture with trophy comparison between Giggs and Gerrard. Would be really thankfull.
Over a year old now and I could still laugh at that all day.any opportunity...
What does that matter? Scholes wasn't as good as Gazza but does that make Scholes not great?
Scholes was much better than Gazza.
Yes he was, much better.
You're right! What you're smoking mate?
Taking it well.
Gerry? Really?
"Zaha scoring and then diving proved that Antichrist Purple nose lives on"
I laughed way too hard at this
I laughed way too hard at this
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-- It's funny how no-one ever mentions the fact that there have been plenty of one club men around at the same time as Gerrard. Scholes, Giggs, Neville, Terry...
What they mean is 'one shit club when he might have gone elsewhere and actually won some trophies man'.
What they mean is 'one shit club when he might have gone elsewhere and actually won some trophies man'.
Were you born when Gazza was playing? Could easily make an argument for him being the most gifted British player of the last 30 years.
Scholes was top drawer over a longer period, won more and didn't waste his talent.
You're an idiot. Different types of players but Gazza was a great entertainer.
He sure sliced that one effort near the end.
To the tune of 'Backdoor Man' by The Doors:
Steeeeeeeevie
2 club man!
Scouse don't know,
Everyone else understands
Steeeeeeeevie
2 club man!
Scouse don't know,
Everyone else understands
Scholes also transitioned through the dark times (where skilful players got lumps kicked out of them) at the start of his career into the modern game. He won a tonne of trophies and adapted his game through his career from forward to controlling midfielder. If he was Spanish or Brazilian he would have had teams built around him. Gazza was brilliant in spates. Scholesy was consistently brilliant for umpteen years.
If you can keep your job when all around you
Scousers Are losing theirs and worshipping you,
If you can not let this slip when all men doubt you,
But forget to check your stud length too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Keep waiting for the preimership,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, when your take a trip:
If you can hate DJ's and won't make them your master;
If you can driink—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can love Genesis to the brink of disaster
And beat the DJ's the night before the game;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Divers are scum and should be treated by fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
Playing with Johnson, Carragher, Tores - Tools:
If you can only last 43 seconds against Herrera
And risk it on one turn of pitch with a kick
You lose, and you wish life could be fairer
And walk off looking like a prick,
If you can face the truth that you're no Scholes
Keane was better, despite your goals
If you captain your side to another mediocre season
"THIS IS OUR YEAR" for no reason,
If you can talk with Scouse and keep your hubcaps,
Or admire Giggs with his league count thirteen,
If both foes or friends laugh at your collapse,
If all men count on you, while you stand and preen;
If you can fill the ninety minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Scouse legend my son!
Scousers Are losing theirs and worshipping you,
If you can not let this slip when all men doubt you,
But forget to check your stud length too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Keep waiting for the preimership,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, when your take a trip:
If you can hate DJ's and won't make them your master;
If you can driink—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can love Genesis to the brink of disaster
And beat the DJ's the night before the game;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Divers are scum and should be treated by fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
Playing with Johnson, Carragher, Tores - Tools:
If you can only last 43 seconds against Herrera
And risk it on one turn of pitch with a kick
You lose, and you wish life could be fairer
And walk off looking like a prick,
If you can face the truth that you're no Scholes
Keane was better, despite your goals
If you captain your side to another mediocre season
"THIS IS OUR YEAR" for no reason,
If you can talk with Scouse and keep your hubcaps,
Or admire Giggs with his league count thirteen,
If both foes or friends laugh at your collapse,
If all men count on you, while you stand and preen;
If you can fill the ninety minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Scouse legend my son!
Lol Gazza imo was better than Scholes
You make the mistake of confusing entertaining to greatness, what has Gazza achieved in his career except the odd great goal and reckless tackles resulting in broken legs?
You're an idiot. Different types of players but Gazza was a great entertainer.
You could, and I won't argue with that, but being gifted does not compare to achieving greatness, which Scholes did.
There are always some jokers derailing this great thread with completely irrelevant nonsense.
Gets me every time
"one club man" ... Right.
I don't understand this bloke.That cretin from the radio Alan Green said:
I like the caps, as if it's actually a recognised moniker."Zaha scoring and then diving proved that Antichrist Purple nose lives on"
I laughed way too hard at this
That was really quite cringeworthy and tragic wasn't it? I mean, you could have pressed the red button and watched old Stevie boy lumber around the pitch for the entire 90 minutes, if you fancied. The way that was all hyped up and the fact they were spanked by Pardew. You really couldn't have written a better script.
He may have been more technically gifted but he wasn't better. Scholes readiness in the game was top notch. We had a player who, throughout is career he developed from a striker to a deep lying play maker and he covered each role magnificently. His vision was world class, his passing was world class and his finishing was world class. Barcelona used to use him as an example of what a midfielder should be. Zidane confessed that Scholes was better than him. That's what Paul Scholes was all about.
No doubt about that. Whether the argument is won or not is down to nuances but there's certainly no clear-cut more gifted player I can think of.
Am I the only one who has a feeling the race for top four at some point turned into a race away from the Europa League? Not that I would agree, but Liverpool and Tottenham seem to have done their very best to stay about level with Southampton.
Absolutely. The point about building around him reminds me of the mismanagement of the England squad, putting Gerrard/Lampard at CM together instead of Paul. Big contributor to the "golden generation"'s failure. I often hear people use that against Scholes in a debate over the greatest English mids. Paul Scholes is still underrated, to the extent people come on here, claim Gazza was better, and call others "an idiot" for disagreeing with that nonsense
You might even be right - but if being gifted is all that is required, Ravel Morrison would be World-class!
Gazza was probably more gifted with the ball than Scholes - but in every other aspect, he was nowhere near Scholes.
Surprised by them calling this the worst Liverpool team they can remember. Konchesky and co weren't that long ago.
I remember a particular poster calling the Roy Hodgson era 'this generation's Hillsborough'.
If you go to the early Scholes whose playing style was more comparable to Gazza's then you can compare them like for like, and Gazza was just better. Significantly actually.
In today's game though, I see a lot more room and value for a Scholes than a Gazza so I can understand why people would be reluctant to agree.
I usually try to settle such arguments thinking who would I pick blind to build a team around. The issue is with those two it really depends how you want to play, in what setting, etc. For 80s/90s football and the top league (Serie A, having most teams being kings of the clean sheet) I would always pick Gazza because what would win you games was that ability to produce the unthinkable. For 00s and after Scholes because controlling games and tempo is clearly far more important.
In today's game though, I see a lot more room and value for a Scholes than a Gazza so I can understand why people would be reluctant to agree.
I usually try to settle such arguments thinking who would I pick blind to build a team around. The issue is with those two it really depends how you want to play, in what setting, etc. For 80s/90s football and the top league (Serie A, having most teams being kings of the clean sheet) I would always pick Gazza because what would win you games was that ability to produce the unthinkable. For 00s and after Scholes because controlling games and tempo is clearly far more important.
Preach. Best Midfielder I've ever seen, imho.Absolutely. The point about building around him reminds me of the mismanagement of the England squad, putting Gerrard/Lampard at CM together instead of Paul. Big contributor to the "golden generation"'s failure. I often hear people use that against Scholes in a debate over the greatest English mids. Paul Scholes is still underrated, to the extent people come on here, claim Gazza was better, and call others "an idiot" for disagreeing with that nonsense
That's incredibly distasteful.
what??
Something hit me while reading some of the RAWK posts you guys are quoting.
Why are Liverpool using the word "average" as an insult to their players, when it's what they actually are? Liverpool are an average team, average teams have average players, how is this surpising to them?
They're a team that, barring a single anomalous season, consistently finishes anywhere from 5th to 7th. The current crop of players they have are very much good enough to play for an upper mid table Europa League side. In fact, some of them are above that threshold. But they seem to truly put themselves in the same bracket as the European giants and believe they're still a team that deserves to have all the fresh talent knocking on their door based on one second place finish and titles won two decades ago.
It just baffles me how deluded they can get from one breakaway season.
Why are Liverpool using the word "average" as an insult to their players, when it's what they actually are? Liverpool are an average team, average teams have average players, how is this surpising to them?
They're a team that, barring a single anomalous season, consistently finishes anywhere from 5th to 7th. The current crop of players they have are very much good enough to play for an upper mid table Europa League side. In fact, some of them are above that threshold. But they seem to truly put themselves in the same bracket as the European giants and believe they're still a team that deserves to have all the fresh talent knocking on their door based on one second place finish and titles won two decades ago.
It just baffles me how deluded they can get from one breakaway season.