The promise he showed? He had 4 games in charge, we were crap in them and he only won 2 of the 4. If he had any character he'd go and become a real manager and find his way back here. Instead he's sitting like a vulture waiting to pick the bones of LvG.
Agreed, that whole show pony routine on the touchline was so transparent, separating himself from his boss.
Hide your wives and daughters!!!
fecking baffles me.....Some of you lot actually want him in right now. That's laughable!
As I said before;
"The players should play with speed, passion, tempo, blood and thunder" - Andy Tate December 2013
"This will be my philosophy. The players will play with speed, tempo, passion and ehhhhhhhhhh... (long pause) just enjoy it" - Ryan Giggs April 2014
This was Sunderland, destroying us, at Old Trafford, under Ryan Giggs....Or was it Andy Tate?
Of course, some of you may say "Oh but that's the Moyes affect"......Fair enough but, what happens if that happens now? You can't call that the LvG affect....And, as much as I hate Moyes (and I hate him) no opposing team played like that whilst he was in charge, at Old Trafford...Nor has any team under LvG, at Old Trafford.....
You want Giggs in, get used to this....You'll be calling for his head and booing him a few months into his reign...Him shouting "WAZZA! Tuck in!" against Norwich makes no bit of a difference
If LvG can't last 18 months here, and the fact a lot of you are dismissing Mourinho, what fecking good is Giggs gonna do? There will be a thread here, calling for his head after 2 months... And probably rightly so
You get what you ask for
Giggs needs to go elsewhere and do his thing. How some of you can't quite grasp that is beyond me
You took a short bit of selective video from a game when Giggs had run maybe 3 or 4 training sessions and used it as an example of how bad Giggs will be. Surely you can see just how daft that is??
Those games are the only evidence we have of Giggs as a manager... And it's not a ringing endorsement.
If you are going to make a case against Giggs then use relevant examples instead of being disingenuous with selective information portrayed out of context. Its the sort of thing that hurts the credibility of the real arguments against Giggs as a manager.
Hope so
Mitten chats out of his arse. Was adamant Rooney wouldn't play vs Norwich.
You're dead right, it's a gross misinterpretation of Fergie's management style by players and pundits who are far less clever than him.
It must have happened surely? I can't think of an example but there must be a few ex players who got a top managerial job based on their name and literally zero experience as a manager?
Kenny Dalglish?.
The great thing Liverpool had going for them at that time was they were promoting from within from a position of strength. If Pep Guardiola had failed at Barcelona, the Giggs for United manager conversation possibly wouldn't be taking place.
Exactly. If fecking Zidane (arguably a better player) has to coach the Real Madrid Castilla team first, then surely Giggs would have to do similar.
I don't think he does expect it. The plan was for Ryan to take over a winning United team in 2017, after three years under LVGs wing. Yes it's a different approach to most managerial appointments but can we not give the club some credit for at least trying to create some continuity and stability from within? That plan is in tatters now. Can we stop with the Giggs bashing already? Please.
And if this happens, the new manager needs to get rid of Giggs.
I suppose given most of us are posting on a forum and not writing a thesis, it is understandable that most posters won't be sifting through every piece of data.
Link to quotes of Giggs saying he expects the job please?
We only lost 1-0. Had 63% possession and 17 shots on goal, to their 8. I'd hardly say destroyed.fecking baffles me.....Some of you lot actually want him in right now. That's laughable!
As I said before;
"The players should play with speed, passion, tempo, blood and thunder" - Andy Tate December 2013
"This will be my philosophy. The players will play with speed, tempo, passion and ehhhhhhhhhh... (long pause) just enjoy it" - Ryan Giggs April 2014
This was Sunderland, destroying us, at Old Trafford, under Ryan Giggs....Or was it Andy Tate?
Of course, some of you may say "Oh but that's the Moyes affect"......Fair enough but, what happens if that happens now? You can't call that the LvG affect....And, as much as I hate Moyes (and I hate him) no opposing team played like that whilst he was in charge, at Old Trafford...Nor has any team under LvG, at Old Trafford.....
You want Giggs in, get used to this....You'll be calling for his head and booing him a few months into his reign...Him shouting "WAZZA! Tuck in!" against Norwich makes no bit of a difference
If LvG can't last 18 months here, and the fact a lot of you are dismissing Mourinho, what fecking good is Giggs gonna do? There will be a thread here, calling for his head after 2 months... And probably rightly so
You get what you ask for
Giggs needs to go elsewhere and do his thing. How some of you can't quite grasp that is beyond me
I don't think he has said it, but LvG has and I get the impression the board said it to him. He hasn't just plucked that out of his backside.
We can only dream!
O come on for gods sake, Any United fan and anyone with eyes can see it's the main job he expects.
Well there is the simple case of integrity and honesty so if you are happy to use a selectively chosen tiny sample of video footage of a game where he had actually only run maybe 2-3 training sessions as an example of a lack of competence to do a job then fine, be disingenuous. There are a ton of valid and sensible reasons why Giggs shouldnt be our next manager, but common sense shows that video footage as an example isnt one of them.
No you come on for Gods sake.
Absolute rubbish. He wants it obviously but that's entirely different. You're slagging a man for a sense of entitlement that he hasn't even voiced.
I'll go one better and say it's perfectly fine to commit adultery. If you're going to go there you'll need to be able to handle the consequences, though.
Well quite. He's certainly shown himself to be utterly unsavoury in a way that your average adulterer might not be. Why does it matter?
A fair and honest assessment, delivered without judgement. I salute you, sir.
My analogy was NOT to associate adulterers, nor Giggs with criminals, but to highlight the absurdity of your comment about how what he did seemed ok or less severe because of how his views were shaped as a child or his background. I am sure you know that "Adultery" is a crime is some states and religions, not in your country perhaps and neither in mine, but just because adultery may not be classified as a legal crime in your justice system does not mean it creates no harm to people. What you are almost saying is, it is perfectly fine to commit (an act that harms people) as long as you can handle the consequences, or maybe as long as you don't get caught.
This forum is full of posters who jump to conclusions without reading or thinking through so let me clarify first.
I think it is actually quite clear that there are plenty of reasons that are valid and sensible regarding why Giggs shouldn't be our next manager. In various threads, posters have made good points and I believe many have read and agreed.
