Not this time, the money-grabbing cnuts will have to step aside for a while. And when this is over, they will answer for their crimes.Money is a dirty word in a thread about life and death. But that doesn't make it irrelevant, unfortunately.
Not this time, the money-grabbing cnuts will have to step aside for a while. And when this is over, they will answer for their crimes.Money is a dirty word in a thread about life and death. But that doesn't make it irrelevant, unfortunately.
I don't understand what they would gain from lying about it at this point?I wonder if the Chinese statistics have been deemed reliable by Western experts? I guess we'd have heard by now if they weren't.
Fake news should be criminalised anyway.In situations like this posting fake news about the epidemic which can cause people to go truly psychotic should be criminalized.
Social order.I don't understand what they would gain from lying about it at this point?
Thanks, that seems to be it.Those countries have a relative lack of testing:
CountryTests Performed Tests per Million People Population Bahrain 8,354 4,910 1,701,575 OFFICIAL South Korea 210,144 4,099 51,269,185 OFFICIAL Hong Kong 16,000 2,134 7,496,981 Estimated Italy 60,761 1,005 60,461,826 OFFICIAL Switzerland 5,000 578 8,654,622 Estimated Mar. 3: 4,000 source Austria 5,026 558 9,006,398 OFFICIAL UK 26,261 387 67,886,011 OFFICIAL Belgium 3,984 344 11,589,623 Estimated Mar 9: 3,541 OFFICIAL source Australia 8,278 325 25,499,884 Estimated Israel 2,386 276 8,655,535 Estimated Mar. 8: 1,771 source France 11,895 182 65,273,511 Estimated Mar. 5: 6,610 OFFICIAL source Finland 720 130 5,540,720 OFFICIAL Mar. 10 Malaysia 3,132 97 32,365,999 OFFICIAL Mar. 10 Japan 9,600 76 126,476,461 OFFICIAL Mar. 10 Netherlands 600 35 17,134,872 Estimated Mar. 2: 200 source USA 8,554 26 331,002,651 OFFICIAL Mar. 10 Vietnam 2,367 24 97,338,579 OFFICIAL Mar. 10 Turkey 940 11 84,339,067 Estimated As of Mar 3: 940 OFFICIAL source
Unfortunately the misinformation directs them to pubs and that.To be fair, this misinformation is good. Maybe it will stop selfish twats from going to pubs just cause they are not likely to get infected and want to live their lives.
They have been deemed as very reliable.I wonder if the Chinese statistics have been deemed reliable by Western experts? I guess we'd have heard by now if they weren't.
The poster you were responding to cited Gower who was specifically commenting on the herd immunity strategy so I'm surprised that's not what's being discussed. Anyhow you attempted to rebut the poster by showing what you felt to be the same chap being supportive of the tangentially related policy of not shutting down mass gatherings. Quite how you thought the sentence "the UK is likely to ban large gatherings soon...My current instinct is that it is a sensible thing to do" translates into an endorsement of a policy of not shutting down mass gatherings continues to elude me.Herd immunity isn't being discussed here.
Gowers said: "What really matters is to introduce, as quickly as possible, changes to our ways of interacting that will reduce the average number of people each infected person infects to well below 1".
What do you think those "ways of interacting" are?
The toilet paper thingy is surreal. Like a bad joke. Imagine making a movie or writing a book about the worst pandemic in a hundred years, and mentioning that people are hoarding toilet paper and fighting about it, with supermarkets selling only one to a person.Tweet
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People like that should be shamed. What is the need for fighting over bog roll whilst you've already got a full trolley of bog roll. fecking moron.
There'll be a chapter about this on wikipedia.The toilet paper thingy is surreal. Like a bad joke. Imagine making a movie or writing a book about the worst pandemic in a hundred years, and mentioning that people are hoarding toilet paper and fighting about it, with supermarkets selling only one to a person.
Everyone would have been ‘WTF, this makes no sense’.
We bailed out the banks with at least 500billion in 2008. Spend that amount today and give each man, woman and child in this country £8000.How would people have money to do anything then? Where would money be generated for the country to run?
It doesn’t bode well for further social unrest. We’re in an initial phase, with relatively few cases and deaths and limited lock down and yet people have already begun to lose their minds and act entirely irrationally. You’ve got to wonder what on earth they will be like when actual stock shortages arrive.The toilet paper thingy is surreal. Like a bad joke. Imagine making a movie or writing a book about the worst pandemic in a hundred years, and mentioning that people are hoarding toilet paper and fighting about it, with supermarkets selling only one to a person.
Everyone would have been ‘WTF, this makes no sense’.
If companies can be given that sort of money, so can we.We bailed out the banks with at least 500billion in 2008. Spend that amount today and give each man, woman and child in this country £8000.
I'm not saying that's what should be done, just pointing out that where there is a will, huge actions can be taken.
I think temporary UBI will have to be done.We bailed out the banks with at least 500billion in 2008. Spend that amount today and give each man, woman and child in this country £8000.
I'm not saying that's what should be done, just pointing out that where there is a will, huge actions can be taken.
Indeed. I actually have can foods only for a week, and only a few dollars in cash. Thinking that the society will be rational.It doesn’t bode well for further social unrest. We’re in an initial phase, with relatively few cases and deaths and limited lock down and yet people have already begun to lose their minds and act entirely irrationally. You’ve got to wonder what on earth they will be like when actual stock shortages arrive.
20 years ago:The toilet paper thingy is surreal. Like a bad joke. Imagine making a movie or writing a book about the worst pandemic in a hundred years, and mentioning that people are hoarding toilet paper and fighting about it, with supermarkets selling only one to a person.
Everyone would have been ‘WTF, this makes no sense’.
I'm sorry but who the feck hypothetically funded this?A flick about UK leaving the EU: Totally unrealistic
Problem can be if like this Professor, he admits he's filling in a lot of blanks if you read it and this is the narrative being voiced around. scientists and professors have chimed on the talk of herd immunity.More than 200 scientists in the UK disagreed with ‘the science’ today. And pretty much every scientist outside of UK is disagreeing with ‘the science’.
Why are you making this like ‘the science says so’ where almost every scientist is saying your are lunatics’ is beyond my understanding.
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I dont have the priveligies to post here.
But I think many of you would like this information from a Norwegian newspaper.
According to prof. in communicable diseases, Bjørg Marit Andersen, at Oslo University hospital:
1. Studies suggest Covid-19 can survive in air for days.
2. Coughing in the armpit/elbow and staying 1 meter from other humans is not enough.
3. Droplets with the virus can survive for days in the armpit/elbow and then be released into the air and infect others
4. An empty room can have the virus in it after previous visitors.
5. Infected persons need to be air-isolated.
The norwegian newspaper article if you want to google translate :
https://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/alarmerende-tall---innfor-full-isolasjon/72235061
(scroll a bit down if you only want to read this info I posted as there are more norwegian specific info further up)
This is not what we think it is in the west, and the chinese they isolate hard and disinfect everything and everybody uses facemasks.
While we in Europe just try to stay at an arms length. Clearly why everything blows up in ou faces now..
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I'm struggling to see how UK will be any different. Majority will show solidarity.
Would this be considered 'new' information?From @Cardboard elk a norwegian newbie :
When the chips are down these civilized people ... They’ll eat each other.”Tweet
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People like that should be shamed. What is the need for fighting over bog roll whilst you've already got a full trolley of bog roll. fecking moron.
Yeah brother, it's a weird one.I know it. Good luck!
I am in a similar scenario. Probably I would not suffer from it when/if I get it, but my mum is 65, my brother is in wheelchair for almost 30 years so has a weaker immune, and my other brother is a smoker (the shitcnut). I don’t wanna even think about it, but all three of them are in a higher danger than the median. All we can do is to be careful and buy time.
British people voted for Brexit because they didn't like the idea of Europe 'telling them what to do'. Not only were they wrong, but it was stupid and self-defeating. And yet it happened anyway.Tweet
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I'm struggling to see how UK will be any different. Majority will show solidarity.
True enough. And to be fair, the toilets in the game did not have toilet paper. It is cause the other people were hoarding them :PYeah brother, it's a weird one.
We know what we think should be done for the best, we hope it's right, but the people in charge aren't doing it meanwhile everyone around is losing their minds and hoarding and panicking and fecking us all over.
Is this not the storyline to Deus Ex? A plague wreacking havoc and rich governments trying to hide the realities...It really is like becomes a game, rather ironic for us
Seashells...True enough. And to be fair, the toilets in the game did not have toilet paper. It is cause the other people were hoarding them :P
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A big beautiful one.Which test did they use though?
Sweeping statements about any demographic are completely unhelpful.Exactly. As always, it’s the boomers that are the problem.