To avoid what's happened in Italy, obviously we'll get through this and come out the other side in a year two years but the government haven't done enough with the time they've had.What exactly is too late?
It's terrible and everyone should take precautions but Italy, ourselves and the world will get through this and the world will move on & hopefully learn lessons.
The world isn't ending any time soon. The vast majority of people will see the other side of the outbreak. So instead of being all about doom, let's be smart, take steps for your own safety & others and we'll get through this.
I suspect it is also a problem of the communication strategy there (or lack thereoff). We saw nothing of that sort here, people got ready throughout the past two weeks, not all at the same time.I was more referring to in Europe sorry. It doesn’t seem to have happened in France, Italy, Spain and other countries where lockdowns have been more severe.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...to-defeat-coronavirus-whos-ryan-idUSKBN2190FMLink?
“The danger right now with the lockdowns ... if we don’t put in place the strong public health measures now, when those movement restrictions and lockdowns are lifted, the danger is the disease will jump back up.”
Cuba also took in a cruise ship full of UK citizens that had 40+ cases on board.That’s great to see
Lockdowns won´t beat the virus, but it slows down the spread of it, so that the health system won´t (or to a less extend) get overloaded. UK changing their strategy in the middle of it (from herd immunity, to social distancing) can hardly be taken as proof of steady leadership.WHO: "Lockdowns don't beat the virus. There needs to be more focus on identifying the infected and mapping their social contacts."
This is good.The Tesco where I work (Barrow-in-Furness) is opening an hour early today at 10am purely for health workers and our own staff.
I would hope that is the same across the country.
So not exactly "lockdowns don't beat the virus" as you quoted it, right?
Sorry to hear about the beard.Spent yesterday creating an emergency ward next to ICU and also adapting two theatres for Covid patients. It’s really tricky as there has to be one way traffic for patients whilst still running emergency theatres. It’s the calm before the storm I feel. Our hospital is doing what it can but that Sky News video above is quite sobering. I’ve even shaved my beard because there is a shortage of hoods! Damn!
Obesity is on the up, but diabetes and hypertension is already a huge problem, I think a lot of it is undiagnosed as well.What are older Indians like in terms of health? I'm assuming you don't have high levels of obesity, diabetes or hypertension either.
Good luck!Spent yesterday creating an emergency ward next to ICU and also adapting two theatres for Covid patients. It’s really tricky as there has to be one way traffic for patients whilst still running emergency theatres. It’s the calm before the storm I feel. Our hospital is doing what it can but that Sky News video above is quite sobering. I’ve even shaved my beard because there is a shortage of hoods! Damn!
If the virus comes back, then it hasn't been beaten? That's their point.So not exactly "lockdowns don't beat the virus" as you quoted it, right?
The government is insisting that's the case while there's already a confirmed case in Pune. It's a load of bollocks.Obesity is on the up, but diabetes and hypertension is already a huge problem, I think a lot of it is undiagnosed as well.
Good quality public healthcare has extremely low penetration, private healthcare is out of the financial reach of most.
The government is insistent that there is no community transmission (yet). When that starts happening, it will not take too long for things to get out of control.
We had a police officer alongside management checking id badges but some probably did sneak through.There is zero chance all those people are NHS and Tesco staff. This is a something that’s been announced by HO at Tesco but will very likely not be implemented well or at all at store level.
Not saying I buy the whole religious angle but could this be an opportunistic time to implement their goals?Tweet
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Losing 2-4% (worst case, unless a mutation happens) of the population of the world is not going to do anything in the long run. If there was something with a higher fatality rate combined and not having a "soft shell" i.e. the outer layer of the virus will decompose easily with water, soap etc compared to the harder shell of the Norovirus, then there could have been some basis for a conspiracy.Tweet
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Yepconspiracy bollocks
The latter, and just one of many competing conspiracy theories.Not saying I buy the whole religious angle but could this be an opportunistic time to implement their goals?
What I'm really asking is; are there any verifiable links between this:
http://news.mit.edu/2019/storing-vaccine-history-skin-1218
and this:
https://id2020.org
...or is it all conspiracy bollocks?
Still no mass testing, we have no idea how many are actually infected.The government is insisting that's the case while there's already a confirmed case in Pune. It's a load of bollocks.
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Not only mass testing but constant re-test. Pointless to test once. YOu need to be tested every month since the incubation period is 2 weeks.Still no mass testing, we have no idea how many are actually infected.
i think the conspiracy is that something in the vaccine will make women infertileLosing 2-4% (worst case, unless a mutation happens) of the population of the world is not going to do anything in the long run. If there was something with a higher fatality rate combined and not having a "soft shell" i.e. the outer layer of the virus will decompose easily with water, soap etc compared to the harder shell of the Norovirus, then there could have been some basis for a conspiracy.
I’m not a racist but....I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories but what does everyone else make of ID2020 and Bill Gates' involvement in it?
Well old women are generally infertile. And old people is who this virus kills.i think the conspiracy is that something in the vaccine will make women infertile
It’s a conspiracy from toilet roll manufactures imo. Only feasible explanation as to why they’re all selling out across the UKI'm not usually one for conspiracy theories but what does everyone else make of ID2020 and Bill Gates' involvement in it?
It might be nice however if there was a political side thread to this, instead of the usual posters who pollute every Current Events thread infesting this one and diluting actual information with random Twitter posts and other agenda driven nonsense.Please stop posting anything negative about our wonderful government, this is not a time for politics, lap it up like good doggies. The science says so.
Probably worth clarifying 3 hours in aerosol means it can survive 3 hours in the air, but that does not mean it stays airborne for 3 hours. Depending on the environment it falls to the ground much faster than that.https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMc2004973?articleTools=true
3hrs in aerosol
72hrs on plastic and stainless steel (although importantly, the half life is 5 - 6 hours) on these surfaces.
24hrs on cardboard
4hrs on copper
Highest incidence of diabetes is found in south Asian populations.What are older Indians like in terms of health? I'm assuming you don't have high levels of obesity, diabetes or hypertension either.
i don't think they'll restrict the vaccine to old womenWell old women are generally infertile. And old people is who this virus kills.
No lockdowns alone don't beat the virus. The Chinese and the Koreans also had lockdowns and also quarantined and isolated the suspects and then tested them. This is what cornered the virus. They had different classes of quarantine. Self quarantine and collective quarantine and forced isolation quarantine, depending on the situation. They also build on the spot hospitals for this for temporary use. I think in Wuhan they build two hospitals in 12 days. It is amazing. It worked and one hospital is already down to half capacity of around 750 patients.So not exactly "lockdowns don't beat the virus" as you quoted it, right?