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We're all like-minded. Because of affluence.Shakesey said:How is it that most people who comment here seem so... Well... intelligent?
We're all like-minded. Because of affluence.Shakesey said:How is it that most people who comment here seem so... Well... intelligent?
Please be right please be right!Wait until football, and all its meltdowns are back. Youll change your mind
Anyway, I heard we might start to sell liquor by Friday next week
Was asked yesterday or the day before, Vallance I think it was said they were going through models throughout March and then made the decision to lock down when they had enough information for the scenarios.3. Why delay lockdown til mid march?
So you would prefer they died in far greater numbers in the streets?Yep. Which is why it will NEVER go that far. The planet Will say enough is enough and governments will open lockdown and go head on.....who dies,dies,sadly but the bulk survives and the world also
There's a disturbing group around here that think that history in 3050 will look back at this and see mankind sat in their living rooms and clapped for the NHS then died like crickets in their pyjamas.
They're sorely mistaken.
I am curious as to know where people think this all comes from?With Johnson, Raab, Patel, Gove, Hancock, Mogg et al running the show, it can't come as a surprise that it's a complete shitshow.
If the political will was there to get the proper kit to NHS staff, it could be done in days. That should tell you something.
Add Brexit on top of this disaster.......Christ, this country is so fecked.
This year will go down in history as the year that brought us "flatten the curve", "self-isolate", "social distancing" and "affluent, like-minded individuals".We're all like-minded. Because of affluence.
We got lucky and we had a government who have fecked up time and again so they were keen to do better this time. Not great but much better. The Ruby Princess fiasco aside we have also been lucky enough to lock down largely ahead of mass imported cases. Stopping flights from China and Italy helped and now we have compulsory 14 days of hotel quarantine at government expense for all international or interstate travellers (or just turning people back at interstate borders when they don't have a permit).I think someone is throwing Australia a bone after the wildfires. I hope anyway, don't want my dad to get sick. Or kangaroos because they're awesome.
What the actual feck
This used to be pretty strict. It took me nearly one year of posting to be promoted from the newbies, and I'm not exactly an illiterate guy, to put it modestly. I just wan't promoted because the stuff I posted wasn't interesting enough to get noticed.Ahhh, Red Cafe! My go-to news outlet. I love you guys!
How is it that most people who comment here seem so... Well... intelligent? Whenever I make the mistake of going on to Facebook I lose faith in humanity. Sorry to say, but most people on there are idiots. And Facebook is most people.
Somehow we got the perfect platform here. I came to the Caf for football, but I'm getting so much more out of it! Thanks!
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Competent planning a couple of months ago when it was obvious what was coming.I am curious as to know where people think this all comes from?
Yes it's a bad situation that any NHS worker might not have proper kit, but there is a larger issue for most of the countries in the world being at the mercy of China and East Asia to produce this stuff as they produce around 85% of all PPE. And I have heard alot of people ask why wasnt all the kit and ventilators being bought in January in preparation, well incase people are forgetting that was when East Asia was the epicentre and were hoarding all the equipment.
Now it's mostly been contained over there we are at the stage where countries are bidding against each to get what they truly need.
Only Germany have the industry to produce testing and kit from the get go and if people have forgotten as well they were hoarding themselves by banning exports in March.
I'm amazed at how anyone thinks any government isn't winging it. Of course they're winging it, there's zero information. There was zero information in January. Nobody had a clue. Because why would they know? Revisionist nonsense.Tweet
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Priti Patel is a disgrace on so many levels. Even her 'apology' was basically a passive aggressive bark at reporter to shut up. #Bully
The question I want answered is why didn't Government build UK manufacturing capacity for PPE (and place foreign orders) from mid January? Why only start panic buying from mid March??? These lost 6 weeks is a key reason why UK is getting battered by covid19.
Also, why dont reporters ever ask
2. Why didn't UK close borders to covid19 hot spot nations? And insist ALL incoming UK citizens complete monitored quarantine?
3. Why delay lockdown til mid march?
4. Why not use army for draconian implementation of lockdown?
5. Why wasn't a 'pandemic' previously war gamed, with established protocols already in place?
It's blatantly obvious UK Government is winging it, and making huge self inflicted errors because of 'the fog of war' due to lack of any planning whatsoever, some which could have started since 2nd January.
That's £20000 in Patel-money - you now own the Crown Jewels.Thanks for posting, donated £20
That's it, I've had it. Eat the rich.
All data from SARS, MERS etc was available to all countries for many years. Governments across NE & SE Asia had previous strategic plans and resources in place. I was in Thailand during their initial phase. They knew exactly what to do and when to do it, and with the right level of urgency or severity. They certainly didn't 'wing it' at all. Countries like New Zealand chose to follow that lead.I'm amazed at how anyone thinks any government isn't winging it. Of course they're winging it, there's zero information. There was zero information in January. Nobody had a clue. Because why would they know? Revisionist nonsense.
Duelling cufflinks? Well I demand satisfaction, Sir!
Check out this guy, showing off how many words he knows.We're all like-minded. Because of affluence.
That's your invite cancelled, mush.Check out this guy, showing off how many words he knows.
Thanks for what exactly?
Some people deserve to be scammed out of their money.
I had this debate with a facebook friend who is very much "this is all media hyper, why we locked down, look at Sweden"
Sweden has a population of 10.23 million in a land mass of 450,295 km² known cases is at 10,151 or 0.098% of the population.
The UK has a population of 66.65 million in a land mass of 242,495 km² known cases of 78,991 or 0.11% of the population.
So the numbers are not far from ours, despite them having a significantly less number of people within their population, spread out over a greater area. Sweden has a population density of 25 per km², the United Kingdom has 272 per km² and England has 430 per km²
You could probably argue that Sweden is, in fact, doing worst than most countries, considering when you take into account population density and their known cases within the population are equivalent to countries that are more densely populated.
No 10 must have watched the movie Wag the dog. I am starting to wonder if Boris was even positive. Maybe have had the case of bad food poisoning --- and his media folks probably thought, lets make it topical and say he was on the frontline fighting, on the beaches of Covid.
dammit I had a dress picked out and everything.That's your invite cancelled, mush.
Phwoar! Welcome back to the People's Front of Belgravia!dammit I had a dress picked out and everything.
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Easy there, Donald...There was zero information in January. Nobody had a clue. Because why would they know?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/07/donald-trump-coronavirus-memos-warning-peter-navarroDonald Trump was warned at the end of January by one of his top White House advisers that coronavirus had the potential to kill hundreds of thousands of Americans and derail the US economy, unless tough action were taken immediately, new memos have revealed.
The memos were written by Trump’s economic adviser, Peter Navarro, and circulated via the National Security Council widely around the White House and federal agencies.
Pretty sure time is telling us right now that they weren’t.Time will tell if they were right.
Their neighbours, Norway, Denmark and Finland. Similar in economy, density and culture are doing better so far I believePretty sure time is telling us right now that they weren’t.
Compare them to their neighbors.
Finland and Norway much better, yes?Their neighbours, Norway, Denmark and Finland. Similar in economy, density and culture are doing better so far I believe
Oh, sorry, I misunderstood you.Finland and Norway much better, yes?
With different strategies as well, I believe.
Don't allow him the satisfaction of butchering a Bill Hicks bit !!
They’re just playing along and leading on their citizens. You can’t tell me their scientists don’t know how it’s going to go, it’s not like UK advisors are stupider than those from everywhere else.I can't believe that counties like the UK and US, who are suffering so much for late and/or inadequate restrictions, are talking about relaxing them.
Australia has reduced their daily infection rate from 20% to 2% (only 58 deaths with under 40 ICU beds being used at any one time) and the government are still saying lock down will probably have to last at least another 6 months.
Such a stupid point.Pretty sure time is telling us right now that they weren’t.
Compare them to their neighbors.
That’d all make sense @Hal9000 if you just completely ignored that Stockholm has half of all of the infected cases and 523 of the 887 deaths.I had this debate with a facebook friend who is very much "this is all media hyper, why we locked down, look at Sweden"
Sweden has a population of 10.23 million in a land mass of 450,295 km² known cases is at 10,151 or 0.098% of the population.
The UK has a population of 66.65 million in a land mass of 242,495 km² known cases of 78,991 or 0.11% of the population.
So the numbers are not far from ours, despite them having a significantly less number of people within their population, spread out over a greater area. Sweden has a population density of 25 per km², the United Kingdom has 272 per km² and England has 430 per km²
You could probably argue that Sweden is, in fact, doing worst than most countries, considering when you take into account population density and their known cases within the population are equivalent to countries that are more densely populated.