SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Is there cigarette and alcohol sales during this pandemic in your country?
 
Karolinska did this again for Stockholm region @Pogue Mahone with average testing day 11th April, so not too far off the original findings. 10% had the virus then.

https://www.kth.se/en/aktuellt/nyheter/10-procent-av-stockholmarna-smittade-1.980727

Should give FHM alot of confidence in their model’s 26% prediction for Stockholm Region in early May.
This seems to be have been done to the city 1.2m, not the region 2.4m. Unless I missunderstood. For the city it seems plausible.
 
If fuel prices remain stupidly low then we will see early retirements of older, fuel inefficient planes to get newer planes which are way more efficient, and which the airliners will be selling at significant discounts either up front or on the back end wrt maintenance.
I don't get the incentive to retire less efficient planes while fuel prices are low. Surely high fuel prices would provide a kick up the backside with regards to getting more fuel efficient planes out there.
 
Karolinska did this again for Stockholm region @Pogue Mahone with average testing day 11th April, so not too far off the original findings. 10% had the virus then.

https://www.kth.se/en/aktuellt/nyheter/10-procent-av-stockholmarna-smittade-1.980727

Should give FHM alot of confidence in their model’s 26% prediction for Stockholm Region in early May.
This seems to be have been done to the city 1.2m, not the region 2.4m. Unless I missunderstood. For the city it seems plausible.

10% seems about right for the centre of an epidemic. It was 14% in the worst affected German town.

I don’t understand why high prevalence in a city would be cause for optimism. Unless you can somehow completely isolate that city from the rest of the country. Which would cause almost as much trauma for citizens than the most stringent lockdown measures.

I’m actually starting to wonder if all that matters in terms of how close we are to herd immunity. is prevalence throughout Europe, seeing as the European economy is so dependent on freedom of movement.
 
I don’t understand why high prevalence in a city would be cause for optimism. Unless you can somehow completely isolate that city from the rest of the country. Which would cause even more trauma for citizens than the most stringent lockdown measures.

I’m actually starting to wonder if all that matters in terms of how close we are to herd immunity. is prevalence throughout Europe, seeing as the European economy is so dependent on freedom of movement.
Well, we know the deaths, Sweden reports quite accurately. More actual cases leads to lower IFR. Sweden is going for the herd immunity in a controlled way, they don't specificly state that, and it is a little more complicated, but in short, it seems to be their strategy.
 
This seems to be have been done to the city 1.2m, not the region 2.4m. Unless I missunderstood. For the city it seems plausible.

The test they fecked up was for the region so it’d be rather odd to then just do the city.
I can’t find the actual info to confirm or not, but so far everything has been region based, I’ve heard no individual “city” information in any field.
 
Is there cigarette and alcohol sales during this pandemic in your country?
Yeah, big increase on Alcohol sales last month as well due every one being locked in, same goes for fresh meats as well with all of the lockdown BBQ's.
 
The test they fecked up was for the region so it’d be rather odd to then just do the city.
I can’t find the actual info to confirm or not, but so far everything has been region based, I’ve heard no individual “city” information in any field.
Yup, but they mentioned a population of 1.22m in that article. A bit confusing.
 
Deaths per head or excess deaths would be a far better metric than simply total deaths. Media will frenzy over the death toll being highest in Europe.
We are 4th highest deaths per million of population in Europe. Is that damning enough for you or is it still the medias fault?
 


I guess a lot of people are suddenly facing a level of press scrutiny they've never experienced before.
 
Well the higher the prevalence, the lower the mortality rate no?

The mortality is what it is. We’ll only get a handle on that over the coming weeks and months. Based on much larger data sets from all over the world.

The prevalence in Stockholm is just one piece of this picture. I don’t think much would change if there was 5% prevalence vs 25% in that particular city.
 
Yeah, big increase on Alcohol sales last month as well due every one being locked in, same goes for fresh meats as well with all of the lockdown BBQ's.
You guys are lucky. My country has decided on no alcohol and no smokes.
 
We are 4th highest deaths per million of population in Europe. Is that damning enough for you or is it still the medias fault?
You wanna point to where I've said it's the media's fault? Do you wanna show me where I've supported the government in any way in that post?
 
I don't get the incentive to retire less efficient planes while fuel prices are low. Surely high fuel prices would provide a kick up the backside with regards to getting more fuel efficient planes out there.

The incentive will come from airliners discounting their new planes more (price and/or maintenance contracts), not directly from low fuel prices. Yes high fuel prices provided more of a direct kick up the backside but demand exceeded supply so airframers had healthy margins.
 
The incentive will come from airliners discounting their new planes more (price and/or maintenance contracts), not directly from low fuel prices. Yes high fuel prices provided more of a direct kick up the backside but demand exceeded supply so airframers had healthy margins.
Ahh OK thanks. I didn't realise they'd save more from those discounts than they would from cheaper fuel costs.
 


I guess a lot of people are suddenly facing a level of press scrutiny they've never experienced before.


There are not enough head-banging or facepalm emojis/gifs in the world for this news.
 
Ah shit bud. Get to a doc and get checked out early.
Please don’t follow this terrible advice and go to a doctor with this fever. You need to self isolate and follow the UK guidance online. Mods need to delete this post.
 
All restaurants, cafés, pubs and beer gardens allowed to open this Saturday. This excites me like nothing else.
 
I've just looked at Germany's figures which say 7,000 and they have a population of 83 million. Genuine question for anyone but what's been the biggest factor in the difference?

Are they reporting their figures in line with other big European countries?

Outside of the reporting element, the biggest factor in the difference is our obesity levels in this country. There is a lot of discussion about the measures, time to react, reporting & testing etc. However as soon as the virus has circulated it's becoming clearer that there is a major correlation between the virus, obesity and death rate.
 
Was feeling absolutely fine this morning and even went for a walk at lunch time. Then over the course of the afternoon have slowly started to feel lethargic and hot/cold and a bit “off” (technical term).

Just took my temp - 38.8°c :nervous:

If paracetamol is not bringing your temperature down then it might be an idea to give 111 a call for advice.

Rest up and I hope you get better soon mate.