Meunier is PSG's first choice. Meunier would be happy to come but PSG probably wouldn't be happy to sell.Surprised we aren't going for Thomas Meunier instead. He has said he'd love to join Man United.
Meunier is PSG's first choice. Meunier would be happy to come but PSG probably wouldn't be happy to sell.Surprised we aren't going for Thomas Meunier instead. He has said he'd love to join Man United.
Fair point. Just hope Aurier attitude is not an issue.Meunier is PSG's first choice. Meunier would be happy to come but PSG probably wouldn't be happy to sell.
I can see that and it would make sense, but, there just doesn't appear to be any evidence so far that Valencia is slowing down. Even if he does begin to next season we've got Darmian who originally was primarily a right back as cover if/when Valencia needs a rest.Ivanovic had a pretty rapid decline and Mourinho's decision to persevere with him last season was probably one of the things that cost him his job. Ivanovic was no longer cutting it from an attacking perspective and defensively pretty much every goal they conceded when I watched them was conceded down his flank.
As good as Valencia has been, Jose might have that in mind and want to prepare for the future. Valencia will be turning 32 at the start of next season.
There's no sign of Valencia slowing down, not sure why we'd need or want to bring in another right back this summer.
aurier is better than valencia
The best candidate to take over from Valencia, who I imagine will still be first choice for a long time.
You really missed the point here. Darmian's game is very different than Valencia. If Valencia slow down, we end up change the game plan mid season. Darmian is not ball winning FB. He doesn't cover the whole flank running up & down at high speed many times during game. He doesn't carry the ball from the back...I can see that and it would make sense, but, there just doesn't appear to be any evidence so far that Valencia is slowing down. Even if he does begin to next season we've got Darmian who originally was primarily a right back as cover if/when Valencia needs a rest.
We can't overhaul the whole team this summer and I just see right back as one of our least problematic positions at least in the coming season.
Well we have already seen Valencia decline rapidly. He was a great winger for a while and then all of sudden he wasn't.I can see that and it would make sense, but, there just doesn't appear to be any evidence so far that Valencia is slowing down. Even if he does begin to next season we've got Darmian who originally was primarily a right back as cover if/when Valencia needs a rest.
We can't overhaul the whole team this summer and I just see right back as one of our least problematic positions at least in the coming season.
Again, I get that. But I just don't see the point in spending big on a right back this summer when we have probably the best right back in the league playing for us right now with no signs of deterioration at all.You really missed the point here. Darmian's game is very different than Valencia. If Valencia slow down, we end up change the game plan mid season. Darmian is not ball winning FB. He doesn't cover the whole flank running up & down at high speed many times during game. He doesn't carry the ball from the back...
Slowing down here is not just fatigue that can be recovered by resting. People meant decline. Valencia is playing a very physical demanding role unlike Zlatan who changed his game & less speed reliant. Valencia's game mostly revolves around his physicality!
Good player with great potential in certain potential can be hard to find & can be expensive. There is no guarantee there would be someone available when Valencia indeed declines.
I edited my previous post a bit so reread it again for new points: physical FBs can decline sharp especially for PL; perhaps Mourinho saw the sign (he asked for a starter quality LB at Chelsea that summer which would be he intended to move Cesar to RB?) & now; high potential player is not always available; PSG is open to sell right now so it wouldn't be ridiculous as when we get desperate.Again, I get that. But I just don't see the point in spending big on a right back this summer when we have probably the best right back in the league playing for us right now with no signs of deterioration at all.
I get your point about Darmian as well, but, if Darmian is starting on the right it would most likely mean Shaw is starting on the left so you just have a reversal. I just think we have much more pressing issues than replacing our most consistent and probably best player this season.
Same sources as last night. Nothing new.
They don't say that United reached a verbal agreement to sign Aurier but that Aurier's representatives talked with United and he likes the idea.
I can't quite remember, but didn't Aurier play a few games as a LB and RCB in a back 3 whilst still at Toulouse? So he is versatile in that sense. Besides, he's arguably a better RB than Valencia so this would make sense for that alone.WTH are we doing signing a RB? Valencia, TFM, Darmian hell even Young, Smalling and Jones not enough options there?
Valencia is the only one from there that is actually a RB who can attack and defend well. TFM is a centre mid IMO, the others are not good enough.WTH are we doing signing a RB? Valencia, TFM, Darmian hell even Young, Smalling and Jones not enough options there?
The type of players Mourinho could really psyche upRojo, bailey and aurier would be a complete and utter nutjob defensive line
Aggressive and unpredictable.
Bailly and Rojo could be described better as aggressive and reliable...surely our first choice CB pairing - I was a Rojo critic but a couple of poor tackles aside he's been very dependableRojo, bailey and aurier would be a complete and utter nutjob defensive line
Aggressive and unpredictable.
Bailly and Rojo could be described better as aggressive and reliable...surely our first choice CB pairing - I was a Rojo critic but a couple of poor tackles aside he's been very dependable
Smalling and Jones (and even Darmian & Young) shouldn't be even considered as alternative RB's (not to mention starting in this position) at a club like United!!WTH are we doing signing a RB? Valencia, TFM, Darmian hell even Young, Smalling and Jones not enough options there?
Let's not play that card. He acted like a dick, he assaulted a policeman and he has been sub par in the last 12 months. But he was excellent against Monaco during the cup final.Every feckin time we are linked with an AFRICAN player, same feckin excuses on here. You honestly think this guy is a bigger dick than than Zlatan?..or even a young Rooney? or Tevez ? or Caf's favourite Keane ? Icardi doesn't get as much stick here although he is a dick. Jesus even Di Maria has some people defending him but this is the guy that is bad for the team?
He is a perfect mourinho player, like Zlatan , Harrera or Drogba. There is a pattern here that just disgusts me when it comes to certain nationality and color players. Sorry for the rant, let me go have a beer and cool down.
Don't see what this discussion is supposed to have to do with "color".. However, the AFCON is an issue (just ask the Scousers) and as a club aiming to get back to the top in a league in which the December/January period is so busy and important you simply can't afford to lose half of your defense (Aurier & Bailly in that specific case) due to a nations cup.Every feckin time we are linked with an AFRICAN player, same feckin excuses on here. You honestly think this guy is a bigger dick than than Zlatan?..or even a young Rooney? or Tevez ? or Caf's favourite Keane ? Icardi doesn't get as much stick here although he is a dick. Jesus even Di Maria has some people defending him but this is the guy that is bad for the team?
He is a perfect mourinho player, like Zlatan , Harrera or Drogba. There is a pattern here that just disgusts me when it comes to certain nationality and color players. Sorry for the rant, let me go have a beer and cool down.
I personally want Aurier and have wanted him here since his impressive showing at the world cup. But to suggest that people don't want him here because of his colour is simply absurd. He's got a record worse than any of those players you've just mentioned. Perhaps you've got a point with some people not wanting him as he's African, but that's to do with him missing a month or so every 2 years in the AFCON and not to do with his race alone.Every feckin time we are linked with an AFRICAN player, same feckin excuses on here. You honestly think this guy is a bigger dick than than Zlatan?..or even a young Rooney? or Tevez ? or Caf's favourite Keane ? Icardi doesn't get as much stick here although he is a dick. Jesus even Di Maria has some people defending him but this is the guy that is bad for the team?
He is a perfect mourinho player, like Zlatan , Harrera or Drogba. There is a pattern here that just disgusts me when it comes to certain nationality and color players. Sorry for the rant, let me go have a beer and cool down.
He denied the allegations and said it was he who was assaulted... either way, he is as much a dick as Zlatan and we all love him.Let's not play that card. He acted like a dick, he assaulted a policeman and he has been sub par in the last 12 months. But he was excellent against Monaco during the cup final.
Can we bring Mark Dennis or Stuart Pearce out of retirement as well ?bailly and Rojo are defo are number 1 centrebacks although they're relatively solid both give me that feeling that they could feck up at any second be it error or a late challenge, add Aurier to the mix and I'm sure it'll be very interesting if not downright scary.
He has nothing to do with Zlatan, Aurier acted badly end of story. I'm not the type to not forgive him, so I would gladly take him, if we are the right environment for him but let's not ignore his actions.He denied the allegations and said it was he who was assaulted... either way, he is as much a dick as Zlatan and we all love him.
Zlatan is arrogant....he does not attack cops, call his coach gay or call the referee a dirty bastard...there is a differenceHe denied the allegations and said it was he who was assaulted... either way, he is as much a dick as Zlatan and we all love him.
Don't be ridiculous. The concerns over Aurier's character are entirely justified and have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with his nationality. He was refused entry to the United Kingdom last year because the dickhead carries a conviction for assualting a police officer.Every feckin time we are linked with an AFRICAN player, same feckin excuses on here. You honestly think this guy is a bigger dick than than Zlatan?..or even a young Rooney? or Tevez ? or Caf's favourite Keane ? Icardi doesn't get as much stick here although he is a dick. Jesus even Di Maria has some people defending him but this is the guy that is bad for the team?
He is a perfect mourinho player, like Zlatan , Harrera or Drogba. There is a pattern here that just disgusts me when it comes to certain nationality and color players. Sorry for the rant, let me go have a beer and cool down.
There is a comparison to be made. Some players are dicks but people only concentrate on their talent. For others, however their personal mistakes follow them everywhere. In my eyes certain players are forgiven easier than others.He has nothing to do with Zlatan, Aurier acted badly end of story. I'm not the type to not forgive him, so I would gladly take him, if we are the right environment for him but let's not ignore his actions.
And isn't that what you are doing with Zlatan, who did far less than Aurier? Should we be disgusted by your attitude regarding Zlatan's nationality and color?There is a comparison to be made. Some players are dicks but people only concentrate on their talent. For others, however their personal mistakes follow them everywhere. In my eyes certain players are forgiven easier than others.
Indeed. Trying to draw some sort of moral equivalence between the two is laughable.Zlatan is arrogant....he does not attack cops, call his coach gay or call the referee a dirty bastard...there is a difference
This is the double standard!!! Zlatan is only arrogant? He abused his own team mates consistently. Attacked Van der vaat, caught on TV calling France a shit country and apparently threatened Pep...his own coach!!, and don't get me started with how many referees he has insulted. But this kid cant be given the benefit of doubt.Zlatan is arrogant....he does not attack cops, call his coach gay or call the referee a dirty bastard...there is a difference
Actually, I am saying they are both dicks who would be perfect on a mourinho team. I am not trying to say one is less of a dick than the other.And isn't that what you are doing with Zlatan, who did far less than Aurier? Should we be disgusted by your attitude regarding Zlatan's nationality and color?
He does have a french passport but he has been handed a prison sentence for assaulting a policeman and the british immigration have the right to consider that he is a threat to public safety and therefore not allow him to enter the country, that would be a stretch though.If he moved to France at a young age doesn't he have a French passport? There'd be no issue with immigration then.
One has been sentenced for an assault on police officers, the other hasn't, there's no comparison really.Actually, I am saying they are both dicks who would be perfect on a mourinho team. I am not trying to say one is less of a dick than the other.
Thanks, makes sense. I reckon he should be alright with an EU passport.He does have a french passport but he has been handed a prison sentence for assaulting a policeman and the british immigration have the right to consider that he is a threat to public safety and therefore not allow him to enter the country, that would a stretch though.