But you'll watch the next 6 right? Agree with @Vernon Philander, they're all must-see.Watched the 3 episodes. Nothing special. Too much hype for nothing.
I will watch but doesn't mean it will be amazing (I hope it is). I felt it was too rushed and each episode had same feel to it. Again I hope the next 6 are better.But you'll watch the next 6 right? Agree with @Vernon Philander, they're all must-see.
Also, the injuries mounting and results dipping is the next section, I'd think. Then you have Ndombele and Jose. Then you have Jose against the media. Pretty good material.
I like to give as good as I get, but I think there’s a genuine point there.I agree with you. He's exactly what people said Beckham was, not very vocal, but his professionalism made you work harder.
Although the bold part just shows you're a bit of a wet wipe.
One would have thought the same about Maguire. We also don’t know the full story yet so he hasn’t brought himself or the club into disrepute. But even so I honestly think anyone who gives a rats about someone getting into a fight on holiday is has too much time on their hands.I like to give as good as I get, but I think there’s a genuine point there.
Kane is a strong family man figure who you can absolutely rely on to always represent your club well. The classic marry your childhood sweetheart and play for your boyhood club stuff that’s so cliched it’s essentially boring, but I do think it has value.
After the 1st 3 episodes, I thought it was obviously why Jose is failing nowadays from a man manager point of view.Watched the first 2 episodes and not really impressed by jose at all. Just doesn't come across as genuine. His 1:1s with the players are meh.
The documentary itself is really not that interesting so far.
Overly cynical that.One would have thought the same about Maguire. We also don’t know the full story yet so he hasn’t brought himself or the club into disrepute. But even so I honestly think anyone who gives a rats about someone getting into a fight on holiday is has too much time on their hands.
Yeah. Decent i would say but not great. It was funny how they skipped all of the pre United game talks, half time and went straight to next day . I also don't buy the Mourinho happiness for one second; seems all forced to me. Kane also comes across like a complete tool and not a sharp one. At one point he even says he wants to be like Ronaldo and MessiWatched the 3 episodes. Nothing special. Too much hype for nothing.
Watched the first 2 episodes and not really impressed by jose at all. Just doesn't come across as genuine. His 1:1s with the players are meh.
The documentary itself is really not that interesting so far.
I agree on his interaction with the players, but more tellling for me were his comments to Sanchez when he said "I beat you in the first minute", just shows it's all about him, the successes are his but the failures are his players. With that level of narcissism eventual failure is inevitable.After the 1st 3 episodes, I thought it was obviously why Jose is failing nowadays from a man manager point of view.
He just can't seem to connect as well with the modern day players.
His dig at Manchester United was hilarious. He'll go to the grave thinking 2nd place in 2017-2018 was this miracle achievement.
Hilarious. Classic straw man and irrelevant Pogba comment.This is bollocks. Nothing to do with him being English. If anything him being English means he is less likely to get serious criticism because we all support him when he plays for his country.
Next you'll be telling me Pogba is English too. Because he gets criticism on here. FFS.
I’m a big supporter of Kane and a Utd fan, the last comment was unnecessary.Disagree. I think he’s the exact sort of leader that they say he is in the show. A leader by example on the pitch, in games, and in training. Works his absolute bollocks off day in day out and has always been known for it.
Shit at team talks as we’ve seen I’ll give you that, but maybe it’s personal opinion but I’d rather a leader who plays a good game rather than a leader who talks a good game.
Not only that but a leader who doesn’t ever bring his club and country into disrepute with off field antics like some other captains...
I mean, surely you realize your seeing 2 minutes into a 15 minute halftime talk. Of course all of the clichés are going to be there because there is something called motivation, in all sports, and at all levels.If anything, I walked away feeling a bit underwhelmed re: Jose. Some observations from the 3 episodes -
- For the stature, fees and trophy cabinet that Jose has, I expected more than the equivalent of "We can do this"/"We are better than this" chants from him. This is what I expect a school coach to be doing, but I am waking up to the reality that is literally the standard in top-tier professional sports too (since Pep spent a lot of time motivating in cliches too)
- I also found it odd that his advice was often focused on outcomes/generic truisms and didn't focus on as much the process or how that player was supposed to achieve that outcome
- "go in for 50/50s and win"
- "don't be nice"
- "have belief/confidence"
- "Pass quickly in the slot"
- When loosing at half time: "The game is alive even the 80th-85th minute", "1 goal can change it"
- When winning at half time: "Three points aren't in the bag yet, don't loose focus"
- It is easy to see why he may blame players for not putting in their best effort, for from his perspective he's shared the recipe for success (however vague it may be) and its the players not following it to the tee
- Tactics discussion was limited thus far, and hopefully they'll shed light on that in the next few episodes. I suppose that's where he earns his bread.
- The role of a coach seems to be overstated with respect to individual training. It seems that they're more psychologists than trainers, and are constantly trying to motivate the team/individuals by looking for something that makes them tick.
- Spurs has a retirement home kind of vibe to it - with everyone content and quiet, and players showing up to do a day job with as such excitement, that it may as well have been accounting
- Levy is someone you could have a beer with (Although, the same was said about George W. Bush too)
Same here. Objectively, these types of documentaries are just enlightening regardless of whether you follow the club or not if done correctly which is why I'd love to see a United one.It’s a great documentary. Not a Spurs fan at all. I’m just watching it because it’s giving me a great insight into what it’s like within a club and inside the dressing room on match days! It’s incredible
Yeah that one seems unnecessary. I recall that he said after the game that they identified him as the weak link in the game and wanted him to be on the ball, rather than De Ligt. Fair enough saying it after the game but to mention it to the guy in one of your first interactionsI agree on his interaction with the players, but more tellling for me were his comments to Sanchez when he said "I beat you in the first minute", just shows it's all about him, the successes are his but the failures are his players. With that level of narcissism eventual failure is inevitable.
Utd blocked filming at Old Trafford.Yeah. Decent i would say but not great. It was funny how they skipped all of the pre United game talks, half time and went straight to next day . I also don't buy the Mourinho happiness for one second; seems all forced to me. Kane also comes across like a complete tool and not a sharp one. At one point he even says he wants to be like Ronaldo and Messi
I think most of the Caf would have agreed with that part at the start of the season. I mean that team did make it to the CL final.Recommend everyone watch this. Jose is a legend .
Good United bits:
Fergie told Jose to get Delle
Jose tells Kane he has better players there than he had at United.
Dier was hardcore United and cried when Mourinho kicked us at for Porto
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Have you played football like for any club? If you have that should basically answer your question.Just watched the first episode... my main takeaway is that Jose is a bit of a weirdo.
Also - on Dele Alli being a "poor trainer" ... I don't see how/why a manager should put up with someone being a poor trainer. I mean these lads are getting paid to play football, and actual competitive games make up about 3 hours work per week. If you can't be arsed playing football for the rest of the week then feck off.
There's a difference between playing for my Sunday side who have one training session on a Wednesday night then playing at the highest level for a Premier League side (unfortunately I never managed to do the latter)Have you played football like for any club? If you have that should basically answer your question.
It seemed to me like it was a light hearted joke, just some banter. Not saying it was the best joke, but I don't think there was any malice behind it.I agree on his interaction with the players, but more tellling for me were his comments to Sanchez when he said "I beat you in the first minute", just shows it's all about him, the successes are his but the failures are his players. With that level of narcissism eventual failure is inevitable.
Again that’s why I asked if you’ve played. When you play for a decent level or even just kids football.. not every player trains the same you’ll have some with high energy and you’ll have some who just go through the motions. It’s got nothing to do with what level they are at and might be more to how they gear up to games. If you watch Jose's actions he was actually trying to figure him out rather than change his training habits.There's a difference between playing for my Sunday side who have one training session on a Wednesday night then playing at the highest level for a Premier League side (unfortunately I never managed to do the latter)
It's different if your say Ronaldo (though he was a great trainer) but this is Dele Alli we're talking about.
It was obvious at the time and I’m sure a fair few of us commented on it then.Just remembered that Jose and his coaching staff went mental when they nicked Europa League football on the last day of the season. Like there's no way he could genuinely have been that happy. It's obvious to me now that they're going to build that up as a massive moment of success at the end of the documentary.
But he didn’t sign for Arsenal? ;-)I like to give as good as I get, but I think there’s a genuine point there.
Kane is a strong family man figure who you can absolutely rely on to always represent your club well. The classic marry your childhood sweetheart and play for your boyhood club stuff that’s so cliched it’s essentially boring, but I do think it has value.
On one of The Athletic podcasts, they were saying that Poch never really embraced the idea, however Jose was very much fine with it and wanted the cameras in his private meetings.Like others have pointed out it's basically the Jose show with an airbrushing out of Pochettino.
That Erikson situation was one of the most interesting parts showing how things actually work now. A bit weird they can be nice as pie face to face but have no idea what is going onOne thing I just don't understand is the Eriksen situation.
Levy says that they just can't get in contact with his agent and that there's no dialogue on his future. In the next episode Levy is shaking Eriksen's hand and saying good morning. Why can't him or Jose just pull him to the side and ask him what he wants to do, or why his agent won't get in contact with the club, or ask for a meeting with his agent?
Surely Eriksen can't be so brashly stonewalling them to the point where his agent is in hiding and he refuses to say anything himself when confronted by Jose or Levy?
Just seems impossible for that to be happening.
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Don't understand why he's getting criticism at all. There's no shame in him not being as charismatic as others, he's better and works harder than any of his teammates.Disagree. I think he’s the exact sort of leader that they say he is in the show. A leader by example on the pitch, in games, and in training. Works his absolute bollocks off day in day out and has always been known for it.
Shit at team talks as we’ve seen I’ll give you that, but maybe it’s personal opinion but I’d rather a leader who plays a good game rather than a leader who talks a good game.
Not only that but a leader who doesn’t ever bring his club and country into disrepute with off field antics like some other captains...