The bad (typically gun related) things happening in America thread

What point and society you habe to live in where you think that is completely normal to go answer a buzzer in your home with a gun

And that society provides with the easy access toa gun to do it andd let you go free after you shot a kid

Just i cant picture this outside a movie or this thread
 
Another mass shooting on the news this morning. Sigh….

Honestly, there's more mass shootings per week in America then I have shits*.

* Yeah I know it's unhealthy I don't have as many shits as mass shootings. I will ask my doctor about this eventually.
 
CNN)[Breaking news update, published at 6 p.m. ET]

The man who shot and wounded 16-year-old Ralph Yarl, a Black teen, after the teen went to the wrong home to pick up his siblings will face two felony charges, Clay County attorney Zachary Thompson announced early Monday evening.

The man will face charges of assault in the first degree and armed criminal action.

Game on
 
If stand your ground laws protect you from shooting a 16 year-old for simply ringing your doorbell, then somehow America has managed to amaze me - I thought I was numb to all gun related American BS but this would be a “new” new low.
 
If stand your ground laws protect you from shooting a 16 year-old for simply ringing your doorbell, then somehow America has managed to amaze me - I thought I was numb to all gun related American BS but this would be a “new” new low.

We can hope they'll have difficulty proving they were under attack from someone ringing their doorbell and be unable to use stand your ground laws as a shield.
 
What does Lel mean?

also, guaranteed he would shit his pants the first time he was in a fight or flight moment.

I believe it means laughing extra loud. When using lol when a kid getting shot just isn't enough. Or possibly too stupid to spell lol?
 
Easily the most depressing thread on the caf and that's including the Israel Palestine stuff, the Iran thread and all the horsechoker threads.
 
Is it that people are so afraid of strangers at their door, that they think killing them is a measured response or this is about freedom?
 
Is it that people are so afraid of strangers at their door, that they think killing them is a measured response or this is about freedom?
For many, it's a gratification that approaches sexual is my thought. They get to cosplay.

Dementia probably played more a part in this case.
 
For many, it's a gratification that approaches sexual is my thought. They get to cosplay.

Dementia probably played more a part in this case.
And racism, this smacks of "there's a black dude at my door, he must be attacking me"
 
What's worse is that the young man got up after being shot in the head, ran to multiple houses begging for help, & the one that finally does orders him to the ground with his hands extended out.
 
Poverty and prevalence of guns are the root causes of this incident.

racism and violence outcomes of the above.

dementia doesn’t kill people guns do.
 
And another, but her killer was charged. I wonder white that is?


Both cases are shocking, but I doubt the man in this case even knew who he was shooting at. It was dark, the car was in the process of moving off his driveway when he shot at it. Absolutely crazy, both cases.

The fact that the young lad survived the doorstep shooting is a miracle - and he's out of hospital now, too.
 
My little brother once got a Mickey Mouse watch from the neighbours after having broke a pane in their greenhouse with a football going over the hedge. Imagine if you had to fear for your life because your ball went into someone's garden. Heck, where I play football there's a couple of houses close enough that a ball will occasionally find its way to their garden.
 
Is there a stupidity virus circulating at the moment or are we just hearing about things more?
I am guessing we are just hearing about it more but if that is the case then it is really damning of the media as it highlights the problem even more by making it an everyday thing. These stories I strangely find more horrifying than the mass shootings as these are things (drive in someone else's driveway to reverse, ring the wrong doorbell, go towards the wrong car, get balls from other people yards, etc.) I have done throughout my life and are so mundane.
 
Nope.
Just normal people - with guns.

I am normal and I am so sure that I would not do that with a gun. The problem are not guns, the problem is that there is not a strong regulation that has background checks (criminal records, mental health), proper training (you need to pass a proper exam, regularly), proper usage (strong and proven legal reason to have it at home and not stored in a shooting range, locked till hunting activities, etc...), arm registry, liability insurance, harsh punishment of miss use (castle doctrine my ass), arms and bullets heavily taxed and education (be sure that they know all of the above). Then, this person would not have a gun and that would never happened
 
I am normal and I am so sure that I would not do that with a gun. The problem are not guns, the problem is that there is not a strong regulation that has background checks (criminal records, mental health), proper training (you need to pass a proper exam, regularly), proper usage (strong and proven legal reason to have it at home and not stored in a shooting range, locked till hunting activities, etc...), arm registry, liability insurance, harsh punishment of miss use (castle doctrine my ass), arms and bullets heavily taxed and education (be sure that they know all of the above). Then, this person would not have a gun and that would never happened

No, it's the guns. Let's frame this a different way. Let's say you had a class of kindergarteners who had a vast array of toys to play with during recess. One of those toys was a dart board. Now, only 30% of the kids had any interest in playing with it, but they were absolutely obsessed with it. Now lets say 4-5 of those kids began thorwing darts at their classmates, and one of those kids was seriously hurt. Would you
A) keep the dart board and give them more and sharper darts
B) keep the dart board but ban the bad kids from using it and hope none of the remaining dart obsessed kids got angry (because kids never get angry)
C) keep the dart board but make the kids take a dart safety class
D) remove the dart board from the classroom

Let's face it, most humans, let alone Americans, have the emotional intelligence and impulse control of a kindergartener. Allowing any of us to own weapons of mass carnage is insanity. Ban everything except bolt action rifles for hunting I say.
 
No, it's the guns. Let's frame this a different way. Let's say you had a class of kindergarteners who had a vast array of toys to play with during recess. One of those toys was a dart board. Now, only 30% of the kids had any interest in playing with it, but they were absolutely obsessed with it. Now lets say 4-5 of those kids began thorwing darts at their classmates, and one of those kids was seriously hurt. Would you
A) keep the dart board and give them more and sharper darts
B) keep the dart board but ban the bad kids from using it and hope none of the remaining dart obsessed kids got angry (because kids never get angry)
C) keep the dart board but make the kids take a dart safety class
D) remove the dart board from the classroom

Let's face it, most humans, let alone Americans, have the emotional intelligence and impulse control of a kindergartener. Allowing any of us to own weapons of mass carnage is insanity. Ban everything except bolt action rifles for hunting I say.

We are on the same side, really, but there are plenty of examples of countries with heavily armed population like Switzerland or Japan. Arms are heavily regulated and there is no problem. Is about regulation. And even more countries with heavy regulation that makes having guns very difficult but possible. Many times Australia put as an example of the transition. Are Australians allowed to have guns? yes. Easily? no. In Spain you can own a gun but is very stringent. I never seen a gun outside law enforcement. Some rifles for hunting, yes, but is very very well regulated from license, from transportation condition, storage, registry, etc.. Also education and the reality that guns are an exception in our society makes us all community aware on "what the feck are you doing with a gun"

That means that if you want a gun, go ahead but the government will make sure that only reasonable, trained, sane people can own one

Yes, Ideally guns should be forbidden from regular citizens but that doesn't happen anywhere that I am aware and the common denominator for countries without gun problems is not forbidding guns but stringent gun regulation