Could have done this months ago if they wanted to do it. Whats the bloody point of leaking this a day before cup final? Some things never change at United. Incompetent administration is still alive and well at United
The Guardian - Manchester United to sack Erik ten Hag after the FA Cup Final
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
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this is bad
Depends where the information came from, who leaked it or if it isn't all just guesswork backed up by the club not commenting.
Was just thinking this to myself this morning, would I be surprised if this news came out today? No i wouldn't, and I'm not. But it's not a good sign that there are still elements leaking internal news to the press - it's unprofessional and hints of internal strife. Stamping this out has to be a priority for the regime.
It's weird, I feel a bit gutted for him and part of me wants to see how he'd do with a proper structure (and better luck with injuries).
But on the other hand, I think a lot of opposition fans were probably hoping United would stick with him, which probably says it all.
Let's see. Feeling pretty apathetic about decisions such as these at this point in time.
But on the other hand, I think a lot of opposition fans were probably hoping United would stick with him, which probably says it all.
Let's see. Feeling pretty apathetic about decisions such as these at this point in time.
Jan Age seems to think the decision was made after 0-4 palace.
How would Sancho know?
Exactly, and this is not the Mail or the Sun, this is the Guardian, who would not publish a headline like this without significant evidence.
I was not pro INEOS. I was pro Qatar. So there's no bias around me. However what makes you think that INEOS leaked it? They had zero to gain out of it. The only people I can think that benefit out of this leak is ETH and his dodgy agency. I mean if tomorrow United lost 6-0 then no one would blame the manager because they would say that he was distracted
There are already stories out there today about United players not being happy with McKenna if it is him.
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1903110/Man-Utd-news-Kieran-McKenna
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/28116152/man-utd-kieran-mckenna-awkward-reunion-schoolmastery
https://www.sportbible.com/football...d-kieran-mckenna-erik-ten-hag-401545-20240524
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1903110/Man-Utd-news-Kieran-McKenna
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/28116152/man-utd-kieran-mckenna-awkward-reunion-schoolmastery
https://www.sportbible.com/football...d-kieran-mckenna-erik-ten-hag-401545-20240524
How do you know the club leaked it? WHY would the club leak it now? It makes zero sense.
On what planet is Tuchel a step down from Ten HagSo it looks like it will be either McKenna, Tuchel, Poch or Thomas Frank.
All a big step down IMO but I will be here for the next sacking in a year or two
Ten Hags only notable achievement is getting to a CL semi,
Tuchels won it, was a runner up, missed out on another final last week by a hair, and has been unlucky in a few 1/4s and 16s like against us with PSG and Madrid with Chelsea,
Complete delusion
Do people really believe the players will only be finding out about this because a journalist has released the story? If the journalist knows you can bet the players already knew. In which case the leak to press changes nothing. All it does is confirm to fans what people have surely known for a long time.
While they have a history of being a certain type of outlet, personally… I don’t think they’re all that.
I don't think its ruined the build up given that its unconfirmed and is only suggesting something most thought would happen anyway.
Fair enough, but I think getting someone like Poch, who could conceivably have the respect of the players, get us playing a decent brand of football, and have us fairly competitive would be better. Then we can leapfrog from there. I'd only be on board with Mckenna if we were stripping the squad this summer.
To be fair we talk about competence, any competent club would’ve sacked him after that absolutely diabolical CL campaign. Still not over it.
Predictable that the "I'll support whatever decision INEOS make" crowd did not, in fact, support their decision when it turned out they're sacking ETH
No matter how much things change, they still stay the same with United. We’ve gone full circle & we’re back to 2016 again.
Classless way to treat a manager, just as it was with LVG. Confidence in INEOS has just dropped considerably.
Classless way to treat a manager, just as it was with LVG. Confidence in INEOS has just dropped considerably.
I hope our next manager is someone the posters on redcafe do not want. We wanted LvG, Jose, Ralf and ten Hag.
They’re all recycled stories from years ago.
People seem to think every single leak is intentional, and someone maliciously feeding info the journalists. We had a poster here who claimed months ago that his family knows a friend who works in the legal dept for Ineos, and basically suggested ten hag was toast. If any half credible journalist got in touch with him, this 'leak' couldve come out months ago. But it probably wouldn't make the same impact as it would now.
1 bad season he's had. He overachieved with the team he had last season, this season he hasn't had the performances or results we expected. However he could end up with the FA cup and winning a trophy both seasons he's been at United.
For me sacking him now is premature. If by Christmas we see ourselves well off the pace again, then fair enough, but 1 bad season to me is far too soon to sack someone especially considering where United where when ETH took over. Which was our worst points total ever in premier league history and no trophies for 6 years. He could deliver us 2 in 2 years.
Based on the fact this was reported by a Chelsea source, I also get the feeling this was released as a feck you from the Chelsea hierarchy because we signed up a manager they were in for. It didn’t come from a Manchester based source like in the past.
We all knew this would happen. They’ll move the goalposts now to be upset about the ‘timing’ instead
Jamie Jackson is pro United is he not? Also the story was by Jacob Steinberg.
I would be OK with Poch, if it is McKenna then agree the squad needs a clearout and a ruthless one. Think both of these can deal with coaching younger players. Poch has the stature to deal with big name players, but McKenna needs a squad who will not constantly try to undermine him either on the field or through their representatives.
Fair. I didn’t take note of the source
Evidence from Manchester City trying to derail us from our preparations for FA Cup. I deserve the right to speculate just like the Guardian
He should have gone at Christmas but the takeover process and an Interim CEO left eveything in limbo. BY the time Ineos and Jim took over I suppose they didn't want their first move to be sacking the manager especially when even back in February we could have still made a push for 4th if Erik had got his head out of his arse and dropped the Chaos ball.
The journo is a known Chelsea journo. He has obviously heard it from people closer to their camp. We’ve been approaching many of the same managers as them so it’s likely managers or their agents said to Chelsea ‘better act fast United are about to sack Ten Hag’.
Incredibly unlikely that INEOS who haven’t leaked anything until now would do this the day before a cup final.
Incredibly unlikely that INEOS who haven’t leaked anything until now would do this the day before a cup final.
No doubt, but I want to know which ones 'have got away with it for so long and did something to so many managers now'.
I'm wondering when Ineos made the decision to sack him.
Whose job is it to sack him now. INEOS or The Glazers?
I actually think the players application and effort has been largely good. We've been hampered with injuries, bizarre tactical set ups, inconsistent youths and players who clearly aren't capable of taking a step up.
I just don't see it as a case of the players 'throwing the manager under the bus'.
I just don't see it as a case of the players 'throwing the manager under the bus'.
Good decision.
I rated the work he did in year 1 in terms of making difficult decisions and turning aorund from Ole’s last season. But eventually, the possession based coaching that I expected based on his Ajax days never came and with his desire to make the best of what we had, signing the wrong players for big money and complete lack of improvement of the collective in his second year, there’s simply not way to continue with him.
I think we’re so far apart and the options are just weak, so I feel giving McKenna a go with a long term vision might just be the best way to go.
I rated the work he did in year 1 in terms of making difficult decisions and turning aorund from Ole’s last season. But eventually, the possession based coaching that I expected based on his Ajax days never came and with his desire to make the best of what we had, signing the wrong players for big money and complete lack of improvement of the collective in his second year, there’s simply not way to continue with him.
I think we’re so far apart and the options are just weak, so I feel giving McKenna a go with a long term vision might just be the best way to go.
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