SteveTheRed
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Just know that Arsenal will turn up for the last couple of months of the season. Beat Bayern Munich next week 3-0, go on a winning run, get into the CL and they cycle will repeat itself.
Next 5 league fixtures :
United: Bournemouth, Boro, West Brom, Everton, and Sunderland.
City: Sunderland, Stoke, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea
Spurs: Everton, Palace, Southampton, Burnley, Swansea
Arsenal: Liverpool, West Brom, Man City, West Ham, Palace
Liverpool: Arsenal, Burnley, Man City, Everton, Bournemouth
Chelsea: West Ham, Stoke, Palace, Man City, Bournemouth
Both us and Chelsea should have a game in hand i believe....
I agree with this as well. That also meas Mourinho can do what he's famous for in the big games and shut up shop. Winning the next 5 means you have the cushion of being able to draw against the other teams in the top 6 and not lose any ground. Mourinho will set you up for this and you'll make them take the game to you which could also feed into your hands with players like Mkhi and Martial on the counter.We need 15 points from our fixtures to even dream about finishing top 4. If we get that we should be around 2nd place with a 3-4 point cushion over a 5th placed team.
Don't think they'll beat Liverpool. The Scousers always seem to be able to beat the big boys.They should beat Arse and probably liverpool.
NO WAY WE FINISH BELOW L'POOL AND ARSENAL!!Predict the results to predict final standings/point (at the bottom of the article)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/premier-league-top-six-predictor-9935059
I think I've overestimated every teams performances in order to be fair, in reality every team should get less points imo especially City who aren't consisten t enough to get 85 points.
- 1Chelsea91
- 2Man City85
- 3Tottenham79
- 4Arsenal79
- 5Liverpool76
- 6Man Utd76
Don't kid yourself, you aren't making top 4.Predict the results to predict final standings/point (at the bottom of the article)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/premier-league-top-six-predictor-9935059
I think I've overestimated every teams performances in order to be fair, in reality every team should get less points imo especially City who aren't consisten t enough to get 85 points.
- 1Chelsea91
- 2Man City85
- 3Tottenham79
- 4Arsenal79
- 5Liverpool76
- 6Man Utd76
1. Chelsea 90Predict the results to predict final standings/point (at the bottom of the article)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/premier-league-top-six-predictor-9935059
I think I've overestimated every teams performances in order to be fair, in reality every team should get less points imo especially City who aren't consisten t enough to get 85 points.
- 1Chelsea91
- 2Man City85
- 3Tottenham79
- 4Arsenal79
- 5Liverpool76
- 6Man Utd76
Chelsea 89Predict the results to predict final standings/point (at the bottom of the article)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/premier-league-top-six-predictor-9935059
I think I've overestimated every teams performances in order to be fair, in reality every team should get less points imo especially City who aren't consisten t enough to get 85 points.
- 1Chelsea91
- 2Man City85
- 3Tottenham79
- 4Arsenal79
- 5Liverpool76
- 6Man Utd76
Hahaha, Mutu was fired because he was caught with cocaine in his system after a drugs test, not because of a fallout with Mourinho for fecks sake.Early in his career Jose had a big problem with Adrian Mutu even though the player was a fan favourite. Chelsea sacked Mutu and they won the title.
I may have underestimated his likely Utd prediction..Treble_Winning said:Predict the results to predict final standings/point (at the bottom of the article)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/premier-league-top-six-predictor-9935059
- 1 Man Utd 232,384,345
- 2 Man City 1
- 3 Tottenham 1
- 4 Arsenal 1
- 5 Liverpool 0
- 6 Chelsea -233,658
City's fixtures . Liverpool's are tricky as well. You do really need 15 points out of 15.We need 15 points from our fixtures to even dream about finishing top 4. If we get that we should be around 2nd place with a 3-4 point cushion over a 5th placed team.
I think there is more chance of Arsenal and Liverpool bottling it than Tottenham who looks more resilient in Premier League. They are a good physical side and can bulldoze their way pass teams in the premier league.NO WAY WE FINISH BELOW L'POOL AND ARSENAL!!
Tottenham will bottle it, Arsenal sh*t their pants against top teams and L'pool are falling faster than the speed of light.
Chelsea 89
Tottenham 87
City 87
Arsenal 79
Liverpool 75
United 73
And United only 25 in their next 13Tottenham 87 points ffs.
So they'll pick up 34 from their next 39?
Da feck is that? United second?NO WAY WE FINISH BELOW L'POOL AND ARSENAL!!
Tottenham will bottle it, Arsenal sh*t their pants against top teams and L'pool are falling faster than the speed of light.
1. Chelsea
2. Man Utd
3. City
4. Spurs
5. Arsenal
6. Everton
7. L'Pool
Which is exactly in line with their current PPG, why is that so hard to believe?And United only 25 in their next 13
Yeah, but you getting 87 points would be really incredible.Which is exactly in line with their current PPG, why is that so hard to believe?
I think 76 or maybe 77 will be required.
Of course that's not happening, but you weren't rolling your eyes at that, you were rolling them at Utd continuing on their current path?Yeah, but you getting 87 points would be really incredible.
I meant that i can't see United getting only 25 points in their last 13 games based on their current form.Of course that's not happening, but you weren't rolling your eyes at that, you were rolling them at Utd continuing on their current path?
Predict the results to predict final standings/point (at the bottom of the article)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/premier-league-top-six-predictor-9935059
I think I've overestimated every teams performances in order to be fair, in reality every team should get less points imo especially City who aren't consisten t enough to get 85 points.
- 1Chelsea91
- 2Man City85
- 3Tottenham79
- 4Arsenal79
- 5Liverpool76
- 6Man Utd76
Probably not the most realistic. Looking back, I don't think I had us, Chelsea or Spurs losing another game for the rest of the season1. Chelsea 91
2. Man City 82
3. Spurs 77
4. Man Utd 75
5. Arsenal 74
6. Liverpool 73
Was referring to your track record in the EL as well ... reckon a rare QF appearance is the best you've managed in that as well in recent years if memory serves well? Ofcourse past performances are not a solid indicator but I'd rather have teams in Europe who take the competition seriously rather than parading out weak sides to maximize their chances of qualifying for the same competition by a higher position in the league.How can we get spanked in the CL every year when we have qualified twice? First time with a quite impressive campaign. Feel free to critisize Spurs for their bad CL campaign, but 1 does not equal 'year in year out'.
And it's not like City, Chelsea and yourself get it right every year either. In fact, English teams have been underwhelming in Europe for some time without Spurs' help.
If someone else wants CL they should show they are good enough by finishing above us in the league.
We've won 1 of the last 6 away games at Spurs, 2 out of 6 at Arsenal.Ill never understand why other sides are given the benefit of the doubt while we are doomed to struggle.
Historically Arsenal always get top 4 and we have tough away game... Ignores our historic good form away to Spurs and Arsenal...
You can look at it the other way too, we've only lost once on each ground in the last 6 years.We've won 1 of the last 6 away games at Spurs, 2 out of 6 at Arsenal.
Ill never understand why other sides are given the benefit of the doubt while we are doomed to struggle.
Historically Arsenal always get top 4 and we have tough away game... Ignores our historic good form away to Spurs and Arsenal...
History isn't relevant. This Arsenal side look even weaker mentally than previous ones. The fact that there is a cloud hanging over Wenger's future isn't helping, its destabilizing them even more.Ill never understand why other sides are given the benefit of the doubt while we are doomed to struggle.
Historically Arsenal always get top 4 and we have tough away game... Ignores our historic good form away to Spurs and Arsenal...
I agree that you've been improving as a team over the past few seasons. I've stated that a number of times on here. But I don't see how that has changed your side's mentality. You still ended up finishing 3rd in a 2 horse race between yourselves and Leicester last season. The tie against Gent doesn't prove to me that that mentality has changed between last season and now either. City still don't have much European steel but Pep does and that's why I think they'll make a strong run next season. I could be wrong of course and Spurs could end up reaching next season's QF but right now I just don't see it. You have a chance to finish 2nd this season but will you do it? Again, I think you'll let it slip by a point or two.The EL have (often wrongly in my opinion) been a competition to play reserves / weakened teams while the focus was on the league. This season was different, but generally the EL has not been a priority (last season Poch thought we could catch Leicester and played a weak team against Dortmund). Sure, European form is relevant to a degree, but what I'm saying is that this group of players and manager have been continuing to improve, it's not like City got it right straight away, or Fergie for that matter.
Mistakes were made, that does not mean that they will necessarily continue to happen. Before Pochettino we were an incredible flaky team, we lacked that grit and determination to see out results, and could suddenly concede 3 goals in 10 minutes. We went from that to a situation where we arguably have the best defense in the league. Our squad depth is also improving, last year our depth was almost non-existent, now we have players such as Son, Wimmer (and Lamela when fit) outside the current starting 11.
What I am saying is that Rome wasn't built overnight, and stating that Spurs (who only recently have been breaking into the top 4, with a total of 2 CL runs, and without the financial power to buy established stars) are doomed to never improve on this aspect because we are Spurs is quite frankly lazy. If we stagnate and make the same mistakes again and again, sure, then that criticism is fair, but it's just too early to draw conclusions on winning mentality or European form imo.
I remember when everyone doubted they'd make top 4 in 2011, especially after they were 17th by week 4 or 5. I remember hearing this in 2013 or was it 2014. If there's one thing Wenger knows how to do, it's make the top 4. We'll see how it plays out. I actually don't want them to make it.People convinced Arsenal in top 4 just because it's "what they do" is such a childish thought process. They aren't getting top 4 as the pressure will never be off, they look completely lost and leaderless. They don't ever look likely of beating any team they play, they're massively overrated.
Small squad? We probably have the most depth of any team in the league.
- Most away games remaining out of the Top 6
- Most games against the Top 6
- Poor record against Top 6 teams this season
- Possible fatigue already kicking in due to small squad
- Still in 2 other competitions
- Reliant on one player for goals
- Least amount of room for error
Again, I'm beginning to doubt you'll qualify through the League after seeing your fixture list.
We've got a crazy fixture list. Plus our form against the top sides has been anythng but good. I reckon we will end up somewhere around the 75 mark.And United only 25 in their next 13
Yeah, fair points. If you question the mentality, then you can take these matches as further proof if you'd like.I agree that you've been improving as a team over the past few seasons. I've stated that a number of times on here. But I don't see how that has changed your side's mentality. You still ended up finishing 3rd in a 2 horse race between yourselves and Leicester last season. The tie against Gent doesn't prove to me that that mentality has changed between last season and now either. City still don't have much European steel but Pep does and that's why I think they'll make a strong run next season. I could be wrong of course and Spurs could end up reaching next season's QF but right now I just don't see it. You have a chance to finish 2nd this season but will you do it? Again, I think you'll let it slip by a point or two.
Disagree. You're pretty much fecked if any one of Zlatan, Pogba, Herrera, Martial & Mkhitaryan get hurt for a lengthy period of time. Those are all unsurprisingly your best outfield players as well. I also brought that up because you'll be playing more games than the rest of the Top 6.Small squad? We probably have the most depth of any team in the league.