[simplyared]

So out of eleven players on the pitch Only one is a man united player. Harsh.

I was asked the question how many players I considered were utd players just in that match. If you asked me the question generally then I would obviously add to that list.

 

[IMakeThingsUp]

I was asked the question how many players I considered were utd players just in that match. If you asked me the question generally then I would obviously add to that list.

True. What would your general answer be then?

 

[simplyared]

True. What would your general answer be then?

De Gea
Bailly
Jones (when fit)
Smalling
Pogba
Matic
Rashford
Carrick (when fit)
Valencia
Lukaku
Players that could become:
Mhki
Martial
Rojo

 

[IMakeThingsUp]

De Gea
Bailly
Jones (when fit)
Smalling
Pogba
Matic
Rashford
Carrick (when fit)
Valencia
Lukaku
Players that could become:
Mhki
Martial
Rojo

I am inclined to agree. I do however think that Victor could become one as well. Or at least I hope so.

 

[Gusjaros]

Best in the defense despite being out of position at right back.

 

[Classical Mechanic]

Best in the defense despite being out of position at right back.

Bloody hell Gus he was rubbish like the rest of them. Pathetic on the first goal when his starting position was ahead of Vardy and conceded Leicester’s best chance in the first half when he let McGuire run of him and nearly score.

 

[The Stain]

Bloody hell Gus he was rubbish like the rest of them. Pathetic on the first goal when his starting position was ahead of Vardy and conceded Leicester’s best chance in the first half when he let McGuire run of him and nearly score.

Let's just disregard the clearances he made especially Fuchs shot which was a goal-saving block.

 

[Devil may care]

Don't think we should try this RB thing again with him.

 

[Classical Mechanic]

Let's just disregard the clearances he made especially Fuchs shot which was a goal-saving block.

It was a shot right at him! Even so, one block doesn’t make up for grave defensive errors.

 

[The Stain]

It was a shot right at him! Even so, one block doesn’t make up for grave defensive errors.

If noone is there it goes in, no? Can't remember the Maguire situation you're referring to. For Vardy's goal he should have anticipated the danger better but that one is more on Jones.

 

[Kapardin]

I thought he was okay. Nothing extraordinary, but not Darmian levels either. Solid 6/10.

He definitely wasn't the reason we drew, for sure.

 

[Litch]

Come on please let's not look to him for the scapegoat.

 

[Zoo]

I thought he was fine.

 

[cyberman]

Played well as an emergency RB.
Nothing to complain about.

 

[Classical Mechanic]

If noone is there it goes in, no? Can't remember the Maguire situation you're referring to. For Vardy's goal he should have anticipated the danger better but that one is more on Jones. Tonight's blame should go more to our fecking stupid attackers.

It was a decent block but regardless of Jones he was pathetic on that move. They had a free kick which they chipped in Lindelof let McGuire run of him and he was clean through on goal, McGuires control let him down and it went into De Gea hands.

The defenders and attackers both let us down today and he was a part of that IMO.

 

[MadMike]

Played well as an emergency RB.
Nothing to complain about.

Agree. Defended well. Obviously he's a CB so he's not gonna be bombing down that wing. Did people expect him to turn into Dani Alves just cause we put him at RB or something?

 

[kundalini]

He was asleep for Maguire's chance from the free kick in the first half, apart from that I thought he was fine. He was marking Gray on their first goal, though perhaps could have abandoned that and run back faster, though Jones clearly at fault for that goal.

 

[Hed Zitin]

Superb for the first goal...

This guy is crap.

 

[dronesoul]

Superb for the first goal...

This guy is crap.

Weird, considering he wasn't at all at fault for the first goal.

I thought he was good as a defensive RB, we obviously lost some edge but he was awake and did some very good early pressuring on their midfielders. Helped steal the ball high up the pitch several times, which is crucial for maintaining the grinding pressure effect.

In the other games he's been dominant in similar ways. Winning ball high up the pitch, extending pressure, and at least one time the stolen ball attack led to a goal. I'm guessing he's lurking a bit higher up the pitch when in attack, to be able to use his passing qualities. I like how he plays. He doesnt give a shit who he plays, basically.

 

[Acole9]

I got criticised for this a couple of weeks ago but when a team attacks us he jogs!!! This match is the third time I've seen him do it now.

 

[hubbuh]

Superb for the first goal...

This guy is crap.

Jogging in that situation was criminal but can you honestly say he had a bad game (one glaring error aside!)? Smells like the jerking of a knee from you.

 

[Jaybomb]

Apart from that first goal he did well.

Why was he used as a RB though? I don’t understand that. Just play Luke Shaw when he’s available. We didn’t fecking win anyway so what difference would it have made? In fact it feels like a loss.

 

[joedirt87]

I thought he did well defensively, going forward he doesn't offer a god dam thing but that's not his game.

 

[IMakeThingsUp]

Can someone please explain why rojo started ahead of victor last night?

 

[Gusjaros]

Can someone please explain why rojo started ahead of victor last night?

I have no idea. Lindelöf has consistently been the better of the centre backs when he's played.

 

[Red_toad]

I have no idea. Lindelöf has consistently been the better of the centre backs when he's played.

Er no he hasn't, he's recently picked up some form after being awful. So where you get he's consistently been our best centre half from is mind boggling.

 

[11101]

Can someone please explain why rojo started ahead of victor last night?

He's left footed. Lindelof is better as a right sided CB and is still finding his feet here.

 

[Gusjaros]

Er no he hasn't, he's recently picked up some form after being awful. So where you get he's consistently been our best centre half from is mind boggling.

No, a more correct description is that he started off awfully against Huddersfield. Did ok against Newcastle and been the better centre back since Brighton. In other words out of six EPL matches as a centre back he's been the better in four, decent in one and awful in one.

 

[Red_toad]

No, a more correct description is that he started off awfully against Huddersfield. Did ok against Newcastle and been the better centre back since Brighton. In other words out of six EPL matches as a centre back he's been the better in four, decent in one and awful in one.

He's not once looked our best defender in any game he's played thus far. Decent on the ball, can pick a pass, but not good on the air and decidedly slow. I don't know how you can say he's done anything consistently in such a limited amount of playing time at United, he's been a underwhelming signing so far. But he's got time on his side. Personally would rather we promoted from within, as we have a youngster who has looked more the part a United player in the few chances he's been given.

 

[Mickson]

He's not once looked our best defender in any game he's played thus far. Decent on the ball, can pick a pass, but not good on the air and decidedly slow. I don't know how you can say he's done anything consistently in such a limited amount of playing time at United, he's been a underwhelming signing so far. But he's got time on his side. Personally would rather we promoted from within, as we have a youngster who has looked more the part a United player in the few chances he's been given.

This.

 

[Gusjaros]

I took the freedom to compare Lindelöf's ratings with the other centre backs in his matches following the match versus Newcastle United.

These are Manchester Evening News player ratings since the Newcastle match. Ratings are pretty obvious here. Lindelöf have been outperforming other centre backs since the Newcastle match.

Brighton
Lindelöf: 7
Smalling: 7

Watford
Lindelöf: 8
Rojo: 4
Smalling: 5

Arsenal
Lindelöf: 6
Rojo: 5
Smalling: 6

CSKA Moscow
Lindelöf: 7
Smalling: 6

Man City
Lindelöf: 6
Rojo: 6
Smalling: 6

Bristol City
Lindelöf: 6
Rojo: 5

Leicester City
Lindelöf: 7
Smalling: 5
(Jones: 7)

Averages
Lindelöf: 6.7
Rojo: 5
Smalling: 5.8
(Jones: 7)

 

[Red_toad]

I took the freedom to compare Lindelöf's ratings with the other centre backs in his matches following the match versus Newcastle United.

These are Manchester Evening News player ratings since the Newcastle match. Ratings are pretty obvious here. Lindelöf have been outperforming other centre backs since the Newcastle match.

Yes mate as obviously MEN ratings are fact and not opinion. Plus in half those games he's not rated as the better one, so still not consistently better. Keep trying.

 

[Gusjaros]

Yes mate as obviously MEN ratings are fact and not opinion. Plus in half those games he's not rated as the better one, so still not consistently better. Keep trying.

It's obvious that a football expert's opinion is more factual than yours.

 

[Red_toad]

It's obvious that a football expert's opinion is more factual than yours.

Yes mate whatever you like! But as I said the ratings do not support what you're saying half the games rated not the best doesn't make him consistently the best in the limited amount of game you hand selected. The Mirror had Jones as our best central defender v Leicester, rated Smalling and Rojo the same as him v Watford, does that make the MEN person wrong? It's all still down to opinion.

You like the player, good for you, I hope it makes you happy. He needs to improve an awful lot if he's going to make a long term career at United.

 

[IMakeThingsUp]

Yes mate as obviously MEN ratings are fact and not opinion. Plus in half those games he's not rated as the better one, so still not consistently better. Keep trying.

But if you are rated the same or higher in every game you are consistently better. Alas the samplesize is too small to make any clear conclusion.

 

[Red_toad]

But if you are rated the same or higher in every game you are consistently better. Alas the samplesize is too small to make any clear conclusion.

Yes but he was 50/50 so in no way consistently better, as you could also say consistently worse. It's all down to opinion. Lad has a lot of flaws, but he's under the best possible manager to iron those out (bar his lack of pace)

 

[Classical Mechanic]

It's obvious that a football expert's opinion is more factual than yours.

There aren't any football experts working for the MEN lad.

Gary Neville said that if he ever writes an autobiography he is going to call it 6/10, as that is the ratings the papers gave him all the time no matter how well or badly he played.

 

[Owngoalscorer]

He is a decent ball player which puts him a level above Smalling already

 

[Gusjaros]

Yes but he was 50/50 so in no way consistently better, as you could also say consistently worse. It's all down to opinion. Lad has a lot of flaws, but he's under the best possible manager to iron those out (bar his lack of pace)

How can you say that he's been consistently worse when he hasn't received lower ratings than his partner(s)?

 

[Litch]

At least he's got the excuse that it's his first season in the league, what's Smalling, Jones, Rojo et al...?