[Raynaldo-dossantos]

they are happening an awful lot in football recently

Aguero, Eriksen and...?

 

[golden_blunder]

Saw a tweet where Rangnick apparently said his heart rate was faster than normal for ten minutes.

That’s what i was guessing from his hand movements to the doctor

 

[Solius]

Aguero, Eriksen and...?

Wigan’s Charlie Wyke collapsed in training the other day and needed CPR. He got a defibrillator fitted.

It’s far more likely to be from Covid (see Kimmich) than the vaccine. But obviously can’t rule anything out as we don’t know who has and hasn’t been vaccinated. It is quite concerning though that it’s happening way more frequently at the moment.

 

[golden_blunder]

All joking aside, I hope that they check it out properly. Last thing we need is another Eriksen or Aguero situation. Get well soon Vic

 

[Devil may care]

Was having a solid game, hope he's ok.

 

[Raynaldo-dossantos]

Wigan’s Charlie Wyke collapsed in training the other day and needed CPR. He got a defibrillator fitted.

It’s far more likely to be from Covid (see Kimmich) than the vaccine. But obviously can’t rule anything out as we don’t know who has and hasn’t been vaccinated. It is quite concerning though that it’s happening way more frequently at the moment.

With Charlie's approval, we can confirm that Charlie has not received a COVID-19 vaccination and Charlie's collapse was not related to any COVID-19 vaccination.

https://wiganathletic.com/news/2021/november/Club-Statement-Charlie-Wyke/

Eriksen wasn't vaccinated either.

 

[Solius]

With Charlie's approval, we can confirm that Charlie has not received a COVID-19 vaccination and Charlie's collapse was not related to any COVID-19 vaccination.

https://wiganathletic.com/news/2021/november/Club-Statement-Charlie-Wyke/

Eriksen wasn't vaccinated either.

Just seen that. Good news I guess. Another reason to get vaccinated.

 

[Uniquim]

Aguero, Eriksen and...?

Wigan’s Charlie Wyke collapsed in training the other day and needed CPR. He got a defibrillator fitted.

It’s far more likely to be from Covid (see Kimmich) than the vaccine. But obviously can’t rule anything out as we don’t know who has and hasn’t been vaccinated. It is quite concerning though that it’s happening way more frequently at the moment.

Happened in Norwegian football too a month ago.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59133898

"Icelandic midfielder Emil Palsson, who is on loan at Norwegian second division side Sogndal from top flight Sarpsborg 08, was taken ill after 12 minutes of the first half against Stjordals-Blink.

In a statement, the club said the 28-year-old was "successfully resuscitated".

Palsson was then flown to a nearby hospital for further treatment."

Was just a few days after Agüero.

 

[Red_toad]

Happened in Norwegian football too a month ago.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59133898

"Icelandic midfielder Emil Palsson, who is on loan at Norwegian second division side Sogndal from top flight Sarpsborg 08, was taken ill after 12 minutes of the first half against Stjordals-Blink.

In a statement, the club said the 28-year-old was "successfully resuscitated".

Palsson was then flown to a nearby hospital for further treatment."

Was just a few days after Agüero.

Even Joe Rogan has mentioned this, without of course actually checking if it's vaccine, the virus or some heart issue that hadn't been picked up as the likely cause. But it's been happening for decades Marc Vivien Foe, Cheick Tiote, Febrice Muamba to name but a few.

Good to hear Lindelof isn't having any further complications.

 

[Livewire1974]

Hopefully it was just a knock that winded him. Difficult few days ahead for him and his family and let's hope this is not a serious medical issue.

All the best Victor.

 

[BlueHaze]

Thankfully it seems he's okay. I was worried when he started hunching over touching his chest. Felt like another aguero situation but for now he seems okay.

 

[YouknowNani]

All joking aside, I hope that they check it out properly. Last thing we need is another Eriksen or Aguero situation. Get well soon Vic

It seems to be happening every other week if you look at leagues around the world, so unfortunately we will probably see more of it. Figures show there's been a massive increase in cardiac events amongst athletes in the past few months. Very concerning.

 

[golden_blunder]

It seems to be happening every other week if you look at leagues around the world, so unfortunately we will probably see more of it. Figures show there's been a massive increase in cardiac events amongst athletes in the past few months. Very concerning.

Was just wondering if covid was weakening professional athletes? Not the vaccine as we know some weren’t vaxxed but the actual virus

 

[Lyng]

Hope he is okay. Did well today.

 

[YouknowNani]

Was just wondering if covid was weakening professional athletes? Not the vaccine as we know some weren’t vaxxed but the actual virus

Well that's the debate isn't it. Many are claiming it's due the vaccine, many claiming it's due to Covid. Both Covid and the Vaccine cause Myocarditis in some people so it's hard to say.

 

[Raynaldo-dossantos]

Figures show there's been a massive increase in cardiac events amongst athletes in the past few months.

Show me those figures. My guess is that you are talking about the now refuted "69 athletes in october" nonsense.

 

[Solius]

Well that's the debate isn't it. Many are claiming it's due the vaccine, many claiming it's due to Covid. Both Covid and the Vaccine cause Myocarditis in some people so it's hard to say.

Covid has a much higher chance of causing it though. And we have two confirmed as not having had the vaccine and collapsing. No confirmed incidents of a vaccinated player collapsing.

 

[Raynaldo-dossantos]

Many are claiming it's due the vaccine

Many random users at Twitter, yes. Not many medical experts though. There is no noteworthy debate about this.

 

[Wayne's World]

Hope he's alright after the incident with his chest, right decision to take him off

Better player then Maguire and should be with Varane as first choice CB's from when Varane comes back from injury

 

[YouknowNani]

Show me those figures. My guess is that you are talking about the now refuted "69 athletes in october" nonsense.

Probably not the most reputable site but I've seen the stats from multiple sources, I can't seem to find the specific graph I saw earlier today but that link provides an idea. I will post the graph when I come across it again.

 

[Stack]

Hope he's alright after the incident with his chest, right decision to take him off

Better player then Maguire and should be with Varane as first choice CB's from when Varane comes back from injury

Im with you on him partnering with Varane. He has been pretty consistent lately.

 

[Raynaldo-dossantos]

https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/12/08/278-percent-increase-in-heart-attack-deaths-among-soccer-players/

Probably not the most reputable site but I've seen the stats from multiple sources, I can't seem to find the specific graph I saw earlier today but that link provides an idea. I will post the graph when I come across it again.

You are using one of the worst antivaxxer-sites as a source? Lmfao. This exposes you very much.

 

[SmashedHombre]

Hope all is well with him. Thought he was our best player today.

 

[Ferguson’s Hairdryer]

Even Joe Rogan has mentioned this, without of course actually checking if it's vaccine, the virus or some heart issue that hadn't been picked up as the likely cause. But it's been happening for decades Marc Vivien Foe, Cheick Tiote, Febrice Muamba to name but a few.

Good to hear Lindelof isn't having any further complications.

Nope. It’s never been such a frequent occurrence. I don’t know what the cause is but I think fools are those who automatically assume vaccine AND those who automatically think it can’t be the vaccine or worse still start attacking people who point out the alarming rise in athletes, not just footballers, going down with heart :breathing issues.

 

[Red_toad]

Nope. It’s never been such a frequent occurrence. I don’t know what the cause is but I think fools are those who automatically assume vaccine AND those who automatically think it can’t be the vaccine or worse still start attacking people who point out the alarming rise in athletes, not just footballers, going down with heart :breathing issues.

Do you have statistics for that? Or is it just reported more? Reports I've read, they mainly focus on people who've contracted COVID and had issues with myocarditis afterwards.

 

[Isotope]

I was wondering when Lindelof was gonna punch that medical guy who keep asking after Lindelof had repeatedly pointed out his chest. Ha..

 

[Ferguson’s Hairdryer]

Do you have statistics for that? Or is it just reported more? Reports I've read, they mainly focus on people who've contracted COVID and had issues with myocarditis afterwards.

Is there any reason why players suffering heart or breathing issues would not have been reported before ?

 

[calodo2003]

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You don’t often see ‘struggling to breathe’ followed by ‘he’s okay’ in the same tweet often.

 

[Red_toad]

Is there any reason why players suffering heart or breathing issues would not have been reported before ?

It would hardly have warranted a mentioned a player from the Norwegian second division having issues 20 years ago. We're more connected now and people with Covid are pretty rabid about putting 2 + 2 and ending up with 12.
So no stats then just read more?

 

[Rhyme Animal]

Really, really hope he’s ok.

Don’t wanna see young, healthy athletes suddenly struggling with stuff like that… it’s not right.

 

[TheReligion]

Was he not just winded?

Until anything is confirmed as being more serious we should all chill and wait for an update.

Would sooner they do what needs to be done but no point jumping straight to linking it to some kind of cardiac event.

DDG didn't help in his post match comments really as it was in total contrast to Rangnick who I assume would be much more sighted on the details.

 

[Raynaldo-dossantos]

Is there any reason why players suffering heart or breathing issues would not have been reported before ?

Can you show any statistics?

 

[meamth]

Lindelof finally looking strong and physically dominant in the premier league.

Probably the 1st choice CB at the moment, can't lose him.

 

[Ferguson’s Hairdryer]

It would hardly have warranted a mentioned a player from the Norwegian second division having issues 20 years ago. We're more connected now and people with Covid are pretty rabid about putting 2 + 2 and ending up with 12.
So no stats then just read more?

it’s the fact that humans have the ability to make general observations that then gives us the need to develop stats. If it was the other way round we’d never make any progress. Example, the Dr in Wuhan 2 years ago made a general observations and from that a new virus was discovered, if people asked him about stats he’d have nothing.

Also no one is talking about 20 years ago. We’re just as connected now as we were 2-4 years ago….

 

[Red_toad]

it’s the fact that humans have the ability to make general observations that then gives us the need to develop stats. If it was the other way round we’d never make any progress. Example, the Dr in Wuhan 2 years ago made a general observations and from that a new virus was discovered, if people asked him about stats he’d have nothing.

Also no one is talking about 20 years ago. We’re just as connected now as we were 2-4 years ago….

So after 2 years, there's no stats? I didn't ask you to discover anything, simply point to some figures that would support your claims.

You decided to reply to my post where I brought up events that happened well over 15 years ago, but no one is talking about 20 years ago. Sure....

Anyways back on thread, wishing Victor a speedy recovery

 

[Mr.Ridiculous__]

Even Joe Rogan has mentioned this, without of course actually checking if it's vaccine, the virus or some heart issue that hadn't been picked up as the likely cause. But it's been happening for decades Marc Vivien Foe, Cheick Tiote, Febrice Muamba to name but a few.

Good to hear Lindelof isn't having any further complications.

Carrick too had some heart issues if I remember correctly.

 

[Ferguson’s Hairdryer]

So after 2 years, there's no stats? I didn't ask you to discover anything, simply point to some figures that would support your claims.

You decided to reply to my post where I brought up events that happened well over 15 years ago, but no one is talking about 20 years ago. Sure....

Anyways back on thread, wishing Victor a speedy recovery

Do you need stats to tell you if a particular day is unusually cold or hot for that time of year based on where you live?

you said it’s been happening for decades, do you mean to this frequency and if so do you have statistics to back that up?

 

[JuriM]

Our Estonian team, Fc Flora young defender Markkus Seppik also collapsed due chest pain in our Europa Conference League game vs Partizan and all necessary tests were run and confirmed okay. He returned to play within a month or so.

 

[Ixion]

Really hope hes alright. Heart rate up and feeling like you cant breathe could almost be a panic attack but that doesn't seem likely. I hope they are very thorough with more tests this week.

 

[a_devil_inside]

Was playing quite well before he came off, hope he is ok